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I purchased what to me looks to be an Authentic Coach purse. I think it is a Coach Chelsey withe blue pebbled leather- Z4703. The label inside really says K0993-Z14703. Coach said it was not authentic but I still question it. Here is why the lettering is symetrical. The letters are cut in the middle for the seams. The seams match up the letters perfectly. Coach said I should mail them the purse and they would take 4 weeks to determine if it is authentic.

Does anyone know the answer for sure? I don't want to send it to Coach.

MaryRose
 

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MaryRoseSchultz said:
Sorry, I did not see that they did not load. I have resized them and now they should be there.

I purchased what to me looks to be an Authentic Coach purse. I think it is a Coach Chelsey withe blue pebbled leather- Z4703. The label inside really says K0993-Z14703. Coach said it was not authentic but I still question it. Here is why the lettering is symetrical. The letters are cut in the middle for the seams. The seams match up the letters perfectly. Coach said I should mail them the purse and they would take 4 weeks to determine if it is authentic.

Does anyone know the answer for sure? I don't want to send it to Coach.

MaryRose
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It's authentic. The bags with the Z before the style number on the creed were made for Nordstrom Rack.

For the record, Coach employees are not authorized to authenticate in store or over the phone. We've known of cases where Coach sales associates have said authentic bags were fake when told the bag was purchased on ebay or because the SA was not familiar with the style.

EDITED TO ADD: It looks like the button on the front of the bag has come off. Was this flaw disclosed in the listing?
 
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If a seller says they will give you a the original receipt for proof of authenticity or some even also say a gift receipt, does that really mean anything? Is that a seller that you can buy from or still need to check all the details for the bag? They could give you a real receipt but yet the bag could still be fake right?
 
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zupfe said:
If a seller says they will give you a the original receipt for proof of authenticity or some even also say a gift receipt, does that really mean anything? Is that a seller that you can buy from or still need to check all the details for the bag? They could give you a real receipt but yet the bag could still be fake right?
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Yes, you still need to check. Fake receipts can be bought online if you know where to look, and a gift receipt even if genuine doesn't prove that the bag you're actually getting is real since it could be from a genuine bag in the same style as the fake the seller is sending you, or from a completely different item.

Nothing including stitching, price tags, receipts, correct serial numbers, zippers, hangtags, or Coach's name stamped all over the hardware can ever prove a bag is genuine except for the details of the bag itself. Buying from a well-known and trusted seller helps a lot but even the experts can make mistakes unless they buy their inventory exclusively from Coach stores.
 
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starrymaz said:
It's authentic. The bags with the Z before the style number on the creed were made for Nordstrom Rack.

For the record, Coach employees are not authorized to authenticate in store or over the phone. We've known of cases where Coach sales associates have said authentic bags were fake when told the bag was purchased on ebay or because the SA was not familiar with the style.

EDITED TO ADD: It looks like the button on the front of the bag has come off. Was this flaw disclosed in the listing?
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I purchased this from Last Chance which is alot of return or damaged items. I thought I could easily find the button since everything about this purse is new. So maybe I can convince Coach to see if they can find a replacement button. I would like to thank everyone for all your assistance it has been really helpful and I think I will be visiting this site more often as I am trying to get into selling some of these purses after I repair them.
 
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donnapie said:
I have 4 Coach bags with these numbers: (1) C06K-10124; (1) A2J-7812; (2) 4C-9911. Would you mind commenting on your thoughts of authenticity?
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Generally, it's impossible to authenticate (or un-authenticate) based on a serial number because counterfeiters can and do use legit numbers on fakes.

Thus, we need to see several pictures of the bags.

However, based on the serial numbers you gave, if the numbers are correct, you appear to have 2 fakes. The 2 bags with 4C-9911 would be fake because that serial number is an invalid number that Coach would never and has never used on any bag.

Please post pictures, either with "manage attachments" or by uploading to photobucket or another photo hosting site. At a minimum, we want to see front, back, interior lining, and a legible picture of the creed. Use the macro (flower/tulip) setting on your camera for the macro shots.

If more pictures are needed, we'll tell you what we need.

ETA: This is what happens when I post my response before reading all the previous responses to your question.

I see that DemRam and Hyacinth already gave you the same info that I posted.
 
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MaryRoseSchultz said:
I purchased what to me looks to be an Authentic Coach purse. I think it is a Coach Chelsey with blue pebbled leather and a brown leather strap on the strap it has a buckle that says it is Coach - Z4703. The label inside really says K0993-Z14703. Coach said it was not authentic but I still question it. Coach said I should mail them the purse and they would take 4 weeks to determine if it is authentic.

Does anyone know the answer for sure? I don't want to send it to Coach.
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Hyacinth said:
We need to see photos of the purse. As we've said many times, there's no way to tell if a purse is authentic just from the serial number.

You said in your other post:
"Coach said it was not authentic but I still question it. Here is why the lettering is symetrical. The letters are cut in the middle for the seams. The seams match up the letters perfectly."
None of those prove a Coach is genuine. Plenty of fakes have the correct fabric alignment and creed stamping. Please don't use that when trying to figure if a bag is real - the most professional class of counterfeiters are very careful about those sorts of details. And that also holds true for older all-leather bags too.

Where did you buy it? If from an online seller or auction, please also post a link to the item listing. Post number 1 on page 1 of this thread explains what information we need to authenticate.

Also, you said that "Coach said" it wasn't authentic. Can you be more specific? WHO at Coach? The Customer Service phone rep? A Sales Assistant in one of their stores? Coach employees have no authority or training to authenticate anything, whether it's in front of them or not, so we need to know who gave you that information.

And did Coach supply an address to send the bag to? I thought they no longer had an authentication service but it would be nice to have a current address if the service is still available.
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Often, the way an SA at Coach will "determine authenticity" in a phone call is to look up the serial number/style number in their computer. If the number isn't listed, they "deem" the item fake.

The problem with that method is that many styles and/or serial numbers aren't in their system. The older classic bags with real serial numbers wouldn't come up in a search. Also, many of the MFF (made for factory) bags aren't in the system.

It is my understanding that the "Z" style bags, bags with Z in front of the style number are some remakes of older styles that Coach brought back and sold to discounters such as Marshalls, TJ Maxx, Nordstrom's Rack, Filene's Basement, etc.
 
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MaryRoseSchultz said:
Sorry, I did not see that they did not load. I have resized them and now they should be there.

I purchased what to me looks to be an Authentic Coach purse. I think it is a Coach Chelsey withe blue pebbled leather- Z4703. The label inside really says K0993-Z14703. Coach said it was not authentic but I still question it. Here is why the lettering is symetrical. The letters are cut in the middle for the seams. The seams match up the letters perfectly. Coach said I should mail them the purse and they would take 4 weeks to determine if it is authentic.

Does anyone know the answer for sure? I don't want to send it to Coach.

MaryRose
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there's nothing wrong with that bag. It's authentic and gorgeous!
 
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