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BeenBurned said:
Originally Posted by klb4556 Sure sorry I didn't do it this way the first time! I've never posted in Coach authenticate this before.


Item: Coach parker slim leather tote
Listing number:160435066978
Seller:luv2sell2u2day
Link:http://cgi.ebay.com/COACH-Parker-Lea...ht_4618wt_1139





With all due respect, your listings raise red flags. No one stated that the listings are fake. No one accused you of doing anything illegal. But as a seller of highly faked items, I would think you'd do whatever is necessary to have listings that show the important details that prove your items are authentic.

Let me comment on your statements separately:

I never show Creeds. I'm a reputable seller, never felt the need. You don't think fakes have creeds? Creeds are not important, so becaue you don't see one, don't pass judgement.

You should show creeds. Creeds have particular wording, spacing, fonts, date codes, style information, stitching, borders, etc. that are very telling in identifying the diffences between authentic bags and fakes.

As you say, fakes do have creeds, but usually, those creeds have one or more of the following mistakes: wrong text, wrong date and factory codes, wrong style information, wrong font, sloppy stitching, and other problems.

That's why the creed is so important to show. A comparison of authentic vs. fake creeds show differences. Sometimes differences are obvious, sometimes they are more difficult to discern, but it's those differences that can help save a buyer from buying a fake.

And for your own protection, as a seller, you want to show creeds because it can also help to prove authenticity if you had a buyer who accused you of selling a fake.

Thirdly, my listings are private due to privacy for my buyers.

In the olden days, before ebay anonymized buyer and bidder IDs, your justification carried some weight. In the last 4 years or so, ebay has made it so bidder IDs are anonymized, thus they have the privacy you no longer need to provide.

There are certain categories of listings, for example erotic items or fetish listings, for which I understand the reason for private listings.

But in a category such as handbags and accessories, the benefit of public bidding far outweighs the negatives. Buyers can verify whether their sellers have a history of selling authentic items, they can look at bidding and verify that the seller isn't shill bidding, and in general, they can see a seller who is proud of what he/she sells and doesn't need to hide it.

If buyers want privacy, those buyers can make their feedback private. They don't need a seller doing it for them.

My wallet photos I use for ease of use, they are clear, easy to see detail, never had an problems in the past.

Just because you've never had a problem in the past doesn't mean that your listings haven't raised red flags.

You're selling styles of wallets that (conservatively) 75% of all listings are fake. And maybe you aren't aware but many of the counterfeit selling websites use those same collage-style pictures to show views of the wallets. It's unknown whether the pictures are your own, or borrowed from on of "those sites."

Although the pictures may be clear, they are too small to see detail. With all items, but especially wallets, the minute details like thread color, embossed imprints, heat pressed credit card slots and ID windows, are expecially important in distinguishing between real and fake. And with those small pictures, those details are not visible.

And another thing that bothers me is your use of stock photos in many of your listings. Obviously, you have a camera because you take pictures of your bags. Thus there's no need to use Coach's copyrighted stock photos as your gallery picture(s). Those pictures belong to Coach and their website clearly states that they are not to be used for any other purpose than to show their customers what the items look like.

You certainly are welcome to monitor my posts. I express my opinions and comment on whether I think sellers have integrity or not. I state whether I'd do business with a seller based on their listings, their pictures, the amount of information their listings impart and on their feedback, responses, and even their reactions to seeing these types of posts.

There is absolutely no libel; just statements of opinions.

Although you didn't ask for it, if you are willing to listen to constructive criticism, it can add credibility to your listings and help you to be a better seller:

1. More pictures! For bags, show front, back, sides, bottom, strap, hardware, inside lining, and a legible head on creed photo.

2. Wallets: show front, back, interior, closeup of ID window and credit card pockets, zipper pulls, stitching.

And all pictures should be large enough to show detail.

3. Avoid private listings. If you sell authentic items, be proud of it and let it show in your history and feedback. Private listings are a huge red flag tactic used by counterfeit sellers.
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First, I wanted to apologize for being so angry. I was very upset because my selling of items has never been questioned. You're right, you don't know me, but I guess because I know myself, that was enough. So the thought of any Red Flags really was upsetting, which I don't want to have. Sooo, after thinking about it that night and talking to some other PowerSellers on eBay, I am going to make some changes to my listings. I've ordered the necessary equipment to take professional looking pics at home. I'm going to re-do all of my pics as soon as the equipment arrives and I need to practice with taking pictures. I really am a Very Good Seller on eBay, always making very high marks with Customer Service with my Customers. I am hoping that after I make changes to my eBay, you will consider putting me on your list of Good Sellers on here. I can guarantee 100% of my items with Receipts from the Coach store. I just hope that you don't lump everyone into the "not good seller" catagory due to them not doing everything on a checklist. I think you can overlook some Great Sellers that way. I'm not aware of the problem with fakes, but it was NEVER my intention to give anyone red flags, especially being a well respected and trusted seller on eBay for 10 years. I don't think a bad seller could survive 10 years if they weren't trustworthy? So please do me a favor.... give me about a week or so to get my new equipment and do what I need to do and then take a look at my listings... let me know what you think. I even invite you to send me a message through my eBay since I don't come on this site. I only came here because of my information through my eBay store. Thank you! Wishing you all a good day! Hope you can understand how I felt when I found these comments on here, it would upset anyone.
 
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starrymaz said:
Very well said, BB!

Sheesh, it never fails - I go away for a day and come back to something like this. :p

BeenBurned has already very eloquently and clearly stated all the points I would have made.

To the OP: NO ONE was saying your listings were fake. There are certain things that may raise red flags on listings and your listings were displaying some of these red flags. Each of these points has been detailed and elaborated on by BeenBurned. I do hope you'll take the constructive advice given about your listings, which will help make your buyers MORE reassured about the authenticity of your listings, and will lead to better sales.
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First, I wanted to apologize for being so angry. I was very upset because my selling of items has never been questioned. You're right, you don't know me, but I guess because I know myself, that was enough. So the thought of any Red Flags really was upsetting, which I don't want to have. Sooo, after thinking about it that night and talking to some other PowerSellers on eBay, I am going to make some changes to my listings. I've ordered the necessary equipment to take professional looking pics at home. I'm going to re-do all of my pics as soon as the equipment arrives and I need to practice with taking pictures. I really am a Very Good Seller on eBay, always making very high marks with Customer Service with my Customers. I am hoping that after I make changes to my eBay, you will consider putting me on your list of Good Sellers on here. I can guarantee 100% of my items with Receipts from the Coach store. I just hope that you don't lump everyone into the "not good seller" catagory due to them not doing everything on a checklist. I think you can overlook some Great Sellers that way. I'm not aware of the problem with fakes, but it was NEVER my intention to give anyone red flags, especially being a well respected and trusted seller on eBay for 10 years. I don't think a bad seller could survive 10 years if they weren't trustworthy? So please do me a favor.... give me about a week or so to get my new equipment and do what I need to do and then take a look at my listings... let me know what you think. I even invite you to send me a message through my eBay since I don't come on this site. I only came here because of my information through my eBay store. Thank you! Wishing you all a good day! Hope you can understand how I felt when I found these comments on here, it would upset anyone.
 
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starrymaz said:
Very well said, BB!

Sheesh, it never fails - I go away for a day and come back to something like this. :p

BeenBurned has already very eloquently and clearly stated all the points I would have made.

To the OP: NO ONE was saying your listings were fake. There are certain things that may raise red flags on listings and your listings were displaying some of these red flags. Each of these points has been detailed and elaborated on by BeenBurned. I do hope you'll take the constructive advice given about your listings, which will help make your buyers MORE reassured about the authenticity of your listings, and will lead to better sales.
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First, I wanted to apologize for being so angry. I was very upset because my selling of items has never been questioned. You're right, you don't know me, but I guess because I know myself, that was enough. So the thought of any Red Flags really was upsetting, which I don't want to have. Sooo, after thinking about it that night and talking to some other PowerSellers on eBay, I am going to make some changes to my listings. I've ordered the necessary equipment to take professional looking pics at home. I'm going to re-do all of my pics as soon as the equipment arrives and I need to practice with taking pictures. I really am a Very Good Seller on eBay, always making very high marks with Customer Service with my Customers. I am hoping that after I make changes to my eBay, you will consider putting me on your list of Good Sellers on here. I can guarantee 100% of my items with Receipts from the Coach store. I just hope that you don't lump everyone into the "not good seller" catagory due to them not doing everything on a checklist. I think you can overlook some Great Sellers that way. I'm not aware of the problem with fakes, but it was NEVER my intention to give anyone red flags, especially being a well respected and trusted seller on eBay for 10 years. I don't think a bad seller could survive 10 years if they weren't trustworthy? So please do me a favor.... give me about a week or so to get my new equipment and do what I need to do and then take a look at my listings... let me know what you think. I even invite you to send me a message through my eBay since I don't come on this site. I only came here because of my information through my eBay store. Thank you! Wishing you all a good day! Hope you can understand how I felt when I found these comments on here, it would upset anyone.
 
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Originally Posted by crazy1
Hi! Can you tell me if this is real or not? Unfortunately, the current posting does not contain a picture of the creed. I thought the inside should be a solid color? Thanks so much:)


Item: Coach black purse - large bleeker style
Item Number:150446127137
Seller:kidsgilligirl
Link:http://cgi.ebay.com/Coach-black-purs...item230749b821

I'm not familiar with that style of bag, having not seen it in person, but based on the seller's other fake Coach listing for a counterfeit wallet, I don't recommend this seller.

http://cgi.ebay.com/Coach-black-wall...item230749a8a1


Thanks Been Burned, I appreciate the info. Just feel sorry for the person who buys it.
Oh, it's already been removed!
 
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Doglover1610 said:
Benzlover there is no reason to be all bent out of shape because of this. The creed is one extremely helpful clue in spotting fakes. And if you stand by the authenticity of your bags you would not mind posting pictures of the creed. Your private feedback is of no matter to me personally, but the comment about creeds I had to reply to.
Please do not take this post personally, because I don't know you and I don't do confrontations. But you must remember some buyers are very fearful about purchasing fake bags, and are only seeking to affirm that the bag is indeed authentic. So if a buyer asks you for a picture of the creed, do remember that. I know you would want the same if you were in the buyer's shoes. Once again I am not trying to pick a fight with you, I just wanted to show you a different side to things.
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First, I wanted to apologize for being so angry. I was very upset because my selling of items has never been questioned. You're right, you don't know me, but I guess because I know myself, that was enough. So the thought of any Red Flags really was upsetting, which I don't want to have. Sooo, after thinking about it that night and talking to some other PowerSellers on eBay, I am going to make some changes to my listings. I've ordered the necessary equipment to take professional looking pics at home. I'm going to re-do all of my pics as soon as the equipment arrives and I need to practice with taking pictures. I really am a Very Good Seller on eBay, always making very high marks with Customer Service with my Customers. I am hoping that after I make changes to my eBay, you will consider putting me on your list of Good Sellers on here. I can guarantee 100% of my items with Receipts from the Coach store. I just hope that you don't lump everyone into the "not good seller" catagory due to them not doing everything on a checklist. I think you can overlook some Great Sellers that way. I'm not aware of the problem with fakes, but it was NEVER my intention to give anyone red flags, especially being a well respected and trusted seller on eBay for 10 years. I don't think a bad seller could survive 10 years if they weren't trustworthy? So please do me a favor.... give me about a week or so to get my new equipment and do what I need to do and then take a look at my listings... let me know what you think. I even invite you to send me a message through my eBay since I don't come on this site. I only came here because of my information through my eBay store. Thank you! Wishing you all a good day! Hope you can understand how I felt when I found these comments on here, it would upset anyone.
 
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First, I wanted to apologize for being so angry. I was very upset because my selling of items has never been questioned. You're right, you don't know me, but I guess because I know myself, that was enough. So the thought of any Red Flags really was upsetting, which I don't want to have. Sooo, after thinking about it that night and talking to some other PowerSellers on eBay, I am going to make some changes to my listings. I've ordered the necessary equipment to take professional looking pics at home. I'm going to re-do all of my pics as soon as the equipment arrives and I need to practice with taking pictures. I really am a Very Good Seller on eBay, always making very high marks with Customer Service with my Customers. I am hoping that after I make changes to my eBay, you will consider putting me on your list of Good Sellers on here. I can guarantee 100% of my items with Receipts from the Coach store. I just hope that you don't lump everyone into the "not good seller" catagory due to them not doing everything on a checklist. I think you can overlook some Great Sellers that way. I'm not aware of the problem with fakes, but it was NEVER my intention to give anyone red flags, especially being a well respected and trusted seller on eBay for 10 years. I don't think a bad seller could survive 10 years if they weren't trustworthy? So please do me a favor.... give me about a week or so to get my new equipment and do what I need to do and then take a look at my listings... let me know what you think. I even invite you to send me a message through my eBay since I don't come on this site. I only came here because of my information through my eBay store. Thank you! Wishing you all a good day! Hope you can understand how I felt when I found these comments on here, it would upset anyone.
 
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