Authenticate This COACH - **see first post for format**

[Vlad]

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BASIC PICTURES REQUIRED (but more may be requested): If necessary pictures are in the listing, it's not necessary to upload and duplicate them.

• Front of item
• Back of item
• Full clear and legible creed text and serial number
• Made in tags (when available)
• Measurements
• For bags with turnlock closures, show pictures of back of female side of turnlock
• For bags with magnetic snaps, show pictures of the male part of the snap so that the numbers and letters on it can be read
• If applicable, search interior of bag and/or pockets for small white tag with production information and include a picture of that.

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[Hyacinth]

I think it is authentic but you might run into trouble if you tried to sell it. The Costa Rican plant wasn't active in 1994 and the creed wording wrong for 1994. Someone else might assume that would make it fake, not realizing that the factory could have made a mistake when the year codes switched to 2 digits. Since the month code is K, you would think that by that late in the year, they would have figured it out. Other parts I would look at are the entire paper tag, the ends of the zipper, and the zipper pull.

Hi whateve, may I trouble you to take another look at the photos? I added 4 more, namely the tag and zipper pull and ends of the zipper. If you see any red flags I will return it. I bought it for my mom but if she didn't want it I was going to see about listing it on eBay. BTW, do you know what the color "BB" stands for? I thought it was called camel but not sure if that's the code for BB. Thank you again!

http://s927.photobucket.com/user/popncrunch/library/Camel Coach

As far as I know the color code for camel was CA. I don't know what BB would stand for. I'd like to get Hyacinth's opinion. It still looks good to me.

The Costa Rica plant was never given the upgraded serial number stamp that had been made to allow a 2-digit year code, so it was technically Coach's mistake - or cheapness, since apparently they figured the plant would be closing before the end of the year and there was no need to make a new stamp for them. I've seen quite a few genuine bags from CR with "4" year codes that were obviously made in 2004, and usually with outlet stamps. But as Whateve said, selling it could lead to accusations of selling a fake even though the bag is genuine.

I don't have a "BB" color code in my files and have NO idea what it stood for, sorry.

 

[Hyacinth]

Hello, kind experts,
How does this one look? Thanks so much!

It seems genuine. Do you own it or are you thinking of buying it?

 

[HI5O]

The Costa Rica plant was never given the upgraded serial number stamp that had been made to allow a 2-digit year code, so it was technically Coach's mistake - or cheapness, since apparently they figured the plant would be closing before the end of the year and there was no need to make a new stamp for them. I've seen quite a few genuine bags from CR with "4" year codes that were obviously made in 2004, and usually with outlet stamps. But as Whateve said, selling it could lead to accusations of selling a fake even though the bag is genuine.

I don't have a "BB" color code in my files and have NO idea what it stood for, sorry.

Thank you, Hyacinth, seems like it would just be easier to return the bag to avoid any future issues if I ever were to sell it. Thanks again to you and Whateve. You guys are great!

 

[Hyacinth]

mamagargoyle has this bag labelled as pre-creed, but there are no Coach markings anywhere. In fact there doesn't appear to be a pocket where the creed would be. However, it does have a paperclip zipper pull, like others we have seen on early bags.
COACH navy blue shoulder vtg Cashin pre-serial NY LEATHER Handbag purse tablet
311561535228
http://www.ebay.com/itm/COACH-navy-...535228?hash=item488a83befc:g:vHgAAOSw1S9WeNhk
Opinions?

I can see the faint mark where the metal Coach tag could have been, but that's all I can contribute. The paper clip zipper pull seems like pretty good proof though.

 

[Hyacinth]

Thank you, Hyacinth, seems like it would just be easier to return the bag to avoid any future issues if I ever were to sell it. Thanks again to you and Whateve. You guys are great!

The Factory Store price tag codes are printed in an unusual style and font too. It's possible it's genuine but a replacement price tag had to be printed and if they didn't know the exact color code they may have pulled an unused color code out of thin air.

So far we've never seen a verifiable fake with a Costa Rica plant code, and the serial stamp, creed stamp and outlet stamp all match the few photos of genuine bags in my files. I'm sure it's genuine, but the problem is when you think about reselling it.

 

[lettuce_2010]

It seems genuine. Do you own it or are you thinking of buying it?

Hi Hyacinth-- I own it, thinking of selling. You don't see any red flags? Thanks!

 

[Hyacinth]

Hi Hyacinth-- I own it, thinking of selling. You don't see any red flags? Thanks!

Nothing obvious, and it seems to match the photos I have for that style.

 

[lettuce_2010]

Nothing obvious, and it seems to match the photos I have for that style.

Thank you, as always!

 

[HI5O]

The Costa Rica plant was never given the upgraded serial number stamp that had been made to allow a 2-digit year code, so it was technically Coach's mistake - or cheapness, since apparently they figured the plant would be closing before the end of the year and there was no need to make a new stamp for them. I've seen quite a few genuine bags from CR with "4" year codes that were obviously made in 2004, and usually with outlet stamps. But as Whateve said, selling it could lead to accusations of selling a fake even though the bag is genuine.

I don't have a "BB" color code in my files and have NO idea what it stood for, sorry.

Thank you Hyacinth--it's going back tomorrow!!!

 

[RL Bernstein]

Greetings once again ladies. Tonight I've two bags that have been discovered at the bottom of one of the workshops "to be examined" bins that I would like to have both authenticated and identified, if that's possible.

The first is a NYC-made mocha shoulder bag that measures 11-1/2" wide x 8" high x 4" deep with a strap that adjusts from a 15" to 18" drop.

Thanks again for providing access to your expertise.

 

[RL Bernstein]

The second is a camel colored small turnlock pouch with a half-flap. Like the previous post, I'd love to know both if it's genuine and what it is (style number and name).

ETA: It measures 8" wide x 6" high x 3" deep with an adjustable strap that has a 16'-19" drop.

Thank you as always.

 

[RL Bernstein]

While I'm here, one more thing for tonight though I know that the authenticate thread isn't the right venue for this query (as I'm pretty certain that this bag is authentic). I was wondering if anyone knows the correct name to the following bag. I believe that I once was (heard?) is referred to as a "Patch Pocket" when it was reissued during one of COACH's many anniversaries, but would appreciate having that confirmed.

This little white and black piece of history measures 8" wide x 8-1/2" high (overall) x 2-3/4" deep and comes from the 1960 period of experimenting with contrasting binding.

I hope that you enjoy this 1960s diversion.

 

[BeenBurned]

Thanks, Hyacinth…2 outta 3 ain't bad, huh?

As far as I know the color code for camel was CA. I don't know what BB would stand for. I'd like to get Hyacinth's opinion. It still looks good to me.

I think I know what BB stands for --- but it's not a color code!

The Costa Rica plant was never given the upgraded serial number stamp that had been made to allow a 2-digit year code, so it was technically Coach's mistake - or cheapness, since apparently they figured the plant would be closing before the end of the year and there was no need to make a new stamp for them. I've seen quite a few genuine bags from CR with "4" year codes that were obviously made in 2004, and usually with outlet stamps. But as Whateve said, selling it could lead to accusations of selling a fake even though the bag is genuine.

I don't have a "BB" color code in my files and have NO idea what it stood for, sorry.

The Factory Store price tag codes are printed in an unusual style and font too. It's possible it's genuine but a replacement price tag had to be printed and if they didn't know the exact color code they may have pulled an unused color code out of thin air.

So far we've never seen a verifiable fake with a Costa Rica plant code, and the serial stamp, creed stamp and outlet stamp all match the few photos of genuine bags in my files. I'm sure it's genuine, but the problem is when you think about reselling it.

Before i finished reading, I'd multi-quoted to say that the tag is definitely a replacement tag made at store level in the outlet.

I wonder if the clerk who made the tag used BB to mean (what she thought was) British beige. (Just a guess.)

If you got a good deal and could make a decent profit on a flip, I might consider keeping the bag and getting a professional authentication documenting that it's a legitimate mistake that Coach made when stamping the creed. That would give you the proof you need to show that you did your due diligence and presumably, a buyer could be reassured that she's getting what she paid for.

(In fact, I'm guessing the bags were sent to the outlet when the error was discovered!)

 

[whateve]

While I'm here, one more thing for tonight though I know that the authenticate thread isn't the right venue for this query (as I'm pretty certain that this bag is authentic). I was wondering if anyone knows the correct name to the following bag. I believe that I once was (heard?) is referred to as a "Patch Pocket" when it was reissued during one of COACH's many anniversaries, but would appreciate having that confirmed.

This little white and black piece of history measures 8" wide x 8-1/2" high (overall) x 2-3/4" deep and comes from the 1960 period of experimenting with contrasting binding.

I hope that you enjoy this 1960s diversion.

I'm so jealous! I have the 90s remake #9004 stroll tote, which I love. In 1969, this was called the patch pocket. Is your pocket on perfectly straight? The pocket is crooked on my remake.

 

[whateve]

Greetings once again ladies. Tonight I've two bags that have been discovered at the bottom of one of the workshops "to be examined" bins that I would like to have both authenticated and identified, if that's possible.

The first is a NYC-made mocha shoulder bag that measures 11-1/2" wide x 8" high x 4" deep with a strap that adjusts from a 15" to 18" drop.

Thanks again for providing access to your expertise.

This is an authentic spectator bag 9795, introduced in 1987.