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BASIC PICTURES REQUIRED (but more may be requested): If necessary pictures are in the listing, it's not necessary to upload and duplicate them.
  • Front of item
  • Back of item
  • Full clear and legible creed text and serial number
  • Made in tags (when available)
  • Measurements
  • For bags with turnlock closures, show pictures of back of female side of turnlock
  • For bags with magnetic snaps, show pictures of the male part of the snap so that the numbers and letters on it can be read
  • If applicable, search interior of bag and/or pockets for small white tag with production information and include a picture of that.
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#13,321
missbaltimore said:
Good evening everyone. Could someone please authenticate these bags for me? There are 4 altogether, all variations on a theme, and all in my possession purchased from thrift stores over the last several months.

Coach Pocket Purse or Penny Bag? 9755
9" x 6" x 2" with 44" strap
Note: The lobster claw clasp on the strap was bad in a way I've not seen before; the center post that allows the clasp to swivel slides right through the hole in the base of the clasp. The hole is oblong instead of round but I'm not sure if the problem is the hole in the clasp or perhaps the end of the post has been slowly worn into a narrower shape. Has anyone seen this before?
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Genuine Pocket Purse. Wait for more opinions about the clips, or ask at the Rehab thread if no one here answers.
 
#13,323
Hyacinth said:
Hangtags are easy to fake and hard to authenticate. I don't see any obvious problems but that doesn't prove anything, and older hangtags 15 or 20 years old and older WERE made in 2 pieces and often did come apart, but so did some fake ones.
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Thank you. That's what I was thinking too. I was comparing it to one I have on an old backpack (that one is completely split) and they both looked pretty close to this one.
 
#13,325
missbaltimore said:
Coach Convertible Clutch (9635) ? Serial number xxxx-xxx
11" x 7" x 3" with 48" strap
Note: Cool curved seams at the bottom corner that I've only seen on the older vintage bags.
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The curved seams form a gusset, allowing the bag to expand if necessary. I hate rehabbing these! It is so much easier with normal square corners.
missbaltimore said:
Good evening everyone. Could someone please authenticate these bags for me? There are 4 altogether, all variations on a theme, and all in my possession purchased from thrift stores over the last several months.

Coach Pocket Purse or Penny Bag? 9755
9" x 6" x 2" with 44" strap
Note: The lobster claw clasp on the strap was bad in a way I've not seen before; the center post that allows the clasp to swivel slides right through the hole in the base of the clasp. The hole is oblong instead of round but I'm not sure if the problem is the hole in the clasp or perhaps the end of the post has been slowly worn into a narrower shape. Has anyone seen this before?
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I think I've seen this on some ebay listings. It has never happened to me. The bag isn't really that old. I have no idea how to fix it.
It was always called a pocket purse, not a penny.
missbaltimore said:
forgot to attach!
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This must have happened to the hangtag after it was sold.
 
#13,326
missbaltimore said:
One more question: the hang tag from the Convertible clutch above has a weird cut pattern on it. I was just wondering if you think that is from a bored previous owner or maybe some labeling of the leather and the scrap was used for a hangtag? It looks like maybe a number, maybe 37?
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Bored previous owners also often have bored kids too, remember that.
 
#13,327
LondonUK said:
So this listing the creed starts win a J so are the Willis bags that start with a J fakes ones?

Item : willis bag
Item # 291685999930
Seller *connee*
http://www.ebay.com/itm/291685999930?_trksid=p2057872.m2749.l2649&ssPageName=STRK:MEBIDX:IT
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Just to try and clarify the "J" question - NO, not all bags with J month codes are fakes, but a LOT of them are and that J month code was probably used more than any other by counterfeiters. I don't know why.

Look at some of the "ALWAYS FAKE" prefixes on the Fake Numbers List, like J8Y, J8H, J8P - those 3 probably account for at least 10 percent of all "classic-era" fakes, bags from the early to mid 1990s through the early 2000s. Add the prefixes listed in the next paragraph and the percentage gets even higher.

There are plenty of prefixes classified in the Fakes List under the "OFTEN APPEAR IN FAKES" cataegory such as J4D, J6D, J9H, J8D, J4K - so many that I strongly suggest that ANY bag with a mid to late 1990s year code that starts with a J month code be authenticated here. IT DOESN'T MEAN THOSE ARE AUTOMATICALLY FAKE, just that there's a good chance they are. If those prefixes don't ring a bell, do yourself a favor and go back and read the List again. Do what I do, read it at least once a month to keep the details fresh in your mind.
 
#13,328
whateve said:
The curved seams form a gusset, allowing the bag to expand if necessary. I hate rehabbing these! It is so much easier with normal square corners.

I think I've seen this on some ebay listings. It has never happened to me. The bag isn't really that old. I have no idea how to fix it.
It was always called a pocket purse, not a penny.

This must have happened to the hangtag after it was sold.
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Hyacinth said:
Bored previous owners also often have bored kids too, remember that.
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Thanks. I actually have a spare strap from a bag that is too far gone so I can hold on to this one and mull over a possible fix. And yes, a bored child (or husband) could certainly be the culprit.:rolleyes:
 
#13,329
Please authenticate.
Can you also tell me which year this bag was made & the name of it?

Thank you in advance

size - approx. 11x7
 

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#13,331
@Hyacinth or anyone who may know the answer to this question. I sent this message to Hyacinth but I'm sure she is bombarded with MANY personal messages daily so I figured I'd ask here.

You kindly authenticated a vintage coach for me a while ago. It was in the Authenticate This Coach thread. Page 238 post 3570 and post 3589. I truly appreciate that. I ended up selling it on a site and it was sent back to me for being inauthentic. I vehemently denied this and even used the thread as proof, but I doubt they even read the thread. The buyer used the creed stamp being faded as proof that it was not aunthentic, even though I addressed the creed being faded in the post, just as you told me to do. I write all of this to say, I BELIEVE YOU and I wanted to know if you knew of a reasonably priced authenticator of vintage coach bags, so that I can have SOLID proof its authentic. Thanks so much for even answering my original post. Be blessed.
 
#13,332
Thank you Hyacinth, BeenBurned, and Whateve for the authentication of my Willis, Court, Madeline, Hampton, and Patricia black bags! 😍I am very happy and satisfied with my collection! I have appreciate the quality of these products. They have all aged well! 😃
 
#13,333
BeenBurned said:
Lot listing of 2 style 9966
ebay seller moonshadowvintage
Item number: 172089071249
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-COA...SA-Lot-of-2-/172089071249?hash=item28114ed691

Comments: I'm a bit curious about the brown one. (I think this is a great side-by-side comp listing.)

TIA!
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The brown one is fake. The first thing I noticed was that the zipper pull wasn't sewn all the way around. I'm pretty sure the G plant code wasn't used in 2000; at least I don't have any in my files and all the 1999s in my files are fake. That, plus the problems with font. It's curious how the pocket divisions are backwards. The main zipper is too short.

It is a great side by side comparison, but I can see how most people wouldn't notice the differences. The seller explained the silver grommets away.
 
#13,334
Chevee02 said:
@Hyacinth or anyone who may know the answer to this question. I sent this message to Hyacinth but I'm sure she is bombarded with MANY personal messages daily so I figured I'd ask here.

You kindly authenticated a vintage coach for me a while ago. It was in the Authenticate This Coach thread. Page 238 post 3570 and post 3589. I truly appreciate that. I ended up selling it on a site and it was sent back to me for being inauthentic. I vehemently denied this and even used the thread as proof, but I doubt they even read the thread. The buyer used the creed stamp being faded as proof that it was not aunthentic, even though I addressed the creed being faded in the post, just as you told me to do. I write all of this to say, I BELIEVE YOU and I wanted to know if you knew of a reasonably priced authenticator of vintage coach bags, so that I can have SOLID proof its authentic. Thanks so much for even answering my original post. Be blessed.
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Which site was this? Most sites don't have authenticators who know as much as we do about Coach. I'm afraid you will be fighting an uphill battle on this one because it has the wrong style number, as well as other problems. It also appears to be missing the period at the end of the first sentence, and the word "appearance" is split at an odd place. All of these things don't prove it is fake, but make it more difficult to prove it is authentic. I've never seen a Gracie that has a buckle on the strap. The inside zipper should have leather all around it. The back outside pocket should be curved, not straight across. The feet should be flat discs, not rounded.

Keep in mind that our authentications are opinions, not absolute fact. I have never seen a fake from the Madison collection that I can recall, and I would be very surprised that counterfeiters would attempt to counterfeit these, but I can't overlook all the discrepancies between your bag and others that I know are authentic.

ETA: Here are the links to original request: http://forum.purseblog.com/showpost.php?p=28292524&postcount=3562
http://forum.purseblog.com/showpost.php?p=28292550&postcount=3563
http://forum.purseblog.com/showpost.php?p=28292568&postcount=3564
http://forum.purseblog.com/showpost.php?p=28292585&postcount=3565
http://forum.purseblog.com/showpost.php?p=28292624&postcount=3566

ETA2: you didn't show how the shoulder strap attaches to the bag in your pictures. The end of the strap is the wrong shape, assuming the strap should have a buckle, which it shouldn't. Your strap has a grommet. Coach straps are sewn.
 
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