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BeenBurned said:
Thanks, I was pretty sure that pollards21 's keychain was fake and her others look good. I've watched the seller's items for a while because she has some interesting and not-too-common styles.

As for the leather passport, I think the one you are looking for is 61908.
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Thanks. The other keychains seemed ok but I haven't really had a chance to look at them but there didn't seem to be any red flags. The seller apparently just got suckered on the phony Travel "Jet UK" POS.
 
#1,247
whateve said:
I was watching that one. It looks like an authentic airline stewardess, but I would be very concerned that the inside of the pocket isn't the same color as the rest of the bag. It might be covered in shoe polish. I don't know much about the wallet but it looks authentic.
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I think it looks very shiny from shoe polish too. Might just stick with it and see what happens.

Thank you!
 
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#1,252
lonesomeoctober said:
aha!
the "vintage and classic leather" one.

thank you! (-and boy, were you right! very confusing!-)
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however--at the risk of trying your patience--shouldn't one still ask? clearly these bags are outliers...

should one assume that these outre creeds are always authentic? ( silly ?, yes)--there are no doubt other indicators one should look for?

thank you for sharing your knowledge!
 
#1,253
lonesomeoctober said:
however--at the risk of trying your patience--shouldn't one still ask? clearly these bags are outliers...

should one assume that these outre creeds are always authentic? ( silly ?, yes)--there are no doubt other indicators one should look for?

thank you for sharing your knowledge!
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Yes, it IS confusing. That's why trying to apply some "rule" posted somewhere on the internet that says all Coaches have to have serial numbers or all creeds are correctly spaced or all Coaches have YKK zippers or yada yada yada proves that a Coach is real or fake or that all Coaches follow the same "rules" is completely ridiculous and just plain WRONG in 99 percent of cases. Every Coach has to be authenticated individually while taking into consideration the facts about that particular style made at that particular time period and in that particular month and year and even at that particular plant.

Bookmark those Salearea Guides, and delete and forget every other so-called "authenticity guide" that you ever read or Saved about Coach because at least 95 percent of them are useless and dangerous. There are NO universal Rules, and no hard and fast absolute detail that proves a Coach is genuine. One detail that's correct or valid on one style or year of a Coach can be a neon red flag on another one.

Read the Signature under each of my posts and take it to heart because it's the way things are and have always been with Coach. Except for 2 "rules" that will get mentioned here once in a while, there are NO "rules" when it comes to Coach. And there's nothing that can prove one is authentic - the only proof is that all the details are correct. And guess what - even Coach has made mistakes and broken their own rules.

That's why we authenticators here make the Big Bucks.

SNORT. :laugh:

And no, the Sheridans aren't outliers, they're just a deviation or exception from Coach's normal practice. There are a LOT of those. We have an old saying among Coachies - THE MOST CONSISTENT THING ABOUT COACH IS THEIR INCONSISTENCY.

Take those words to heart too.
 
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Hyacinth said:
Yes, it IS confusing. That's why trying to apply some "rule" posted somewhere on the internet that says all Coaches have to have serial numbers or all creeds are correctly spaced or all Coaches have YKK zippers or yada yada yada proves that a Coach is real or fake or that all Coaches follow the same "rules" is completely ridiculous and just plain WRONG in 99 percent of cases. Every Coach has to be authenticated individually while taking into consideration the facts about that particular style made at that particular time period and in that particular month and year and even at that particular plant.

Bookmark those Salearea Guides, and delete and forget every other so-called "authenticity guide" that you ever read or Saved about Coach because at least 95 percent of them are useless and dangerous. There are NO universal Rules, and no hard and fast absolute detail that proves a Coach is genuine. One detail that's correct or valid on one style or year of a Coach can be a neon red flag on another one.

Read the Signature under each of my posts and take it to heart because it's the way things are and have always been with Coach. Except for 2 "rules" that will get mentioned here once in a while, there are NO "rules" when it comes to Coach. And there's nothing that can prove one is authentic - the only proof is that all the details are correct. And guess what - even Coach has made mistakes.

That's why we authenticators here make the Big Bucks.

SNORT. :laugh:
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again, many thanks kind hyacinth! yours are the only guides i read...as i struggle on through the mire and muck of problematic listings.

when i get a good one, though, its so worth it!
 
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#1,259
maramd said:
Please authenticate. Thanks!

VINTAGE AUTHENTIC COACH BLACK ALL LEATHER SHOULDER BAG CROSS BODY MADE IN USA

Item 151562291852
Seller: lacomet
http://www.ebay.com/itm/VINTAGE-AUT...7isEPxuTx6nKvpOzboN9g%3D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc
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Genuine Brighton Bag style 9895 from the early 1990s. I'm not sure why the seller says "This is the limited Made in USA edition" since AFAIK all Brighton Bags were made in the US and Coach didn't mention anything in the catalogs about the style being an LE. We've seen about as many of them listed on Ebay as many other contemporary Coach styles.

The seller also states:
"THE BAG WAS PURCHASED AT THE HONOLULU FLAGSHIP STORE.

THE BAG RETAILED NORTH OF $550.00"

The so-called retail price of $550 is also complete fantasy. Even for the Hawaii stores I don't think Coach was marking their bags up more than 100 percent! (Hawaii tPF members, please correct me if I'm wrong.) The Fall 1992 catalog shows the list price as $216, and I don't remember ANY early 1990s bag with a $550 list price. Back in 1992 you could have flown that bag from NYC to Hawaii in its own "coach" seat for that price, and at the time shipping to Hawaii was $15 compared to the usual price for the continental US of $6.50. Below is the Holiday 1991 page with a slightly lower retail price.

Hawaii does produce some fine local products and I wonder if the seller has been indulging in them.
 

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Hyacinth said:
Genuine Brighton Bag style 9895 from the early 1990s. I'm not sure why the seller says "This is the limited Made in USA edition" since AFAIK all Brighton Bags were made in the US and Coach didn't mention anything in the catalogs about the style being an LE. We've seen about as many of them listed on Ebay as many other contemporary Coach styles.

The seller also states:
"THE BAG WAS PURCHASED AT THE HONOLULU FLAGSHIP STORE.

THE BAG RETAILED NORTH OF $550.00"

The so-called retail price of $550 is also complete fantasy. Even for the Hawaii stores I don't think Coach was marking their bags up more than 100 percent! (Hawaii tPF members, please correct me if I'm wrong.) The Fall 1992 catalog shows the list price as $216, and I don't remember ANY early 1990s bag with a $550 list price. Back in 1992 you could have flown that bag from NYC to Hawaii in its own "coach" seat for that price, and at the time shipping to Hawaii was $15 compared to the usual price for the continental US of $6.50. Below is the Holiday 1991 page with a slightly lower retail price.

Hawaii does produce some fine local products and I wonder if the seller has been indulging in them.
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Oh wow Hyacinth! Thank you so much for your help on this. I really, really, really appreciate it. The $550 price seemed like a fantasy price too.. The catalog photo is a huge bonus.
 
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