Authenticate This COACH - **see first post for format**

[Vlad]

IMPORTANT READ-ME

Please post authenticity questions related to COACH in this thread. No PMs please.
For further information, please refer to the first post on page 1 of this thread.

Please follow the following requests:

• Before you submit a request for authentication, please search this thread to make sure that the item has not previously been authenticated by searching the seller ID and/or item number. This is not a thread to ask general questions about COACH, please refer to our main Coach forum for such information.
• Note that authenticators have the right to refuse any requests. This is a free service, but it is imperative that you help our authenticators by using the following format:
• FOR ITEMS LISTED ONLINE:
  Item:
  Listing number:
  Seller and site where listed
  Link:
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• FOR ITEMS NOT LISTED ONLINE:
  Item:
  Where purchased or how obtained
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BASIC PICTURES REQUIRED (but more may be requested): If necessary pictures are in the listing, it's not necessary to upload and duplicate them.

• Front of item
• Back of item
• Full clear and legible creed text and serial number
• Made in tags (when available)
• Measurements
• For bags with turnlock closures, show pictures of back of female side of turnlock
• For bags with magnetic snaps, show pictures of the male part of the snap so that the numbers and letters on it can be read
• If applicable, search interior of bag and/or pockets for small white tag with production information and include a picture of that.

Thank you and be safe!

 

[maramd]

Two to authenticate for tonight please.

1. Vintage Coach Cashin Era Fabulous Navy Leather Crossover/Shoulder Bag Made NYC!!
Item 161567097145
Seller lynnielou1maisie2
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-Coa...DdJT23mOwHkMOtw%2Fix0%3D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc

2.Vintage COACH Black Leather Handbag Satchel 8607 Medium in Size
Item 301489285193
Seller elefantstrunk
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-COA...DdJT23mOwHkMOtw%2Fix0%3D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc

Thank you!

 

[Hyacinth]

Two to authenticate for tonight please.

1. Vintage Coach Cashin Era Fabulous Navy Leather Crossover/Shoulder Bag Made NYC!!
Item 161567097145
Seller lynnielou1maisie2
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-Coa...DdJT23mOwHkMOtw%2Fix0%3D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc

2.Vintage COACH Black Leather Handbag Satchel 8607 Medium in Size
Item 301489285193
Seller elefantstrunk
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-COA...DdJT23mOwHkMOtw%2Fix0%3D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc

Thank you!

The first seems to be a genuine Classic Shoulder Bag, style 9170 probably from the late 1970s to the mid-80s. It might be just a bit too new to be "Cashin Era".

Second is a genuine Madison Satchel style 9725 from the mid-1980s

 

[maramd]

Whateve here is the link to the listing where I read the info. Mini tote seems to be the name most of the other sellers are using. Will post the purse photo on the Facebook page and see if anyone there can name it. I did win it, btw. $61.00. Bargain!

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-196...t=Vintage_Handbags_Purses&hash=item259e05bb7c

 

[maramd]

The first seems to be a genuine Classic Shoulder Bag, style 9170 probably from the late 1970s to the mid-80s. It might be just a bit too new to be "Cashin Era".

Second is a genuine Madison Satchel style 9725 from the mid-1980s

Thanks Hyacinth! The dates and names are appreciated.

 

[whateve]

Whateve here is the link to the listing where I read the info. Mini tote seems to be the name most of the other sellers are using. Will post the purse photo on the Facebook page and see if anyone there can name it. I did win it, btw. $61.00. Bargain!

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-196...t=Vintage_Handbags_Purses&hash=item259e05bb7c

Thank you! Congratulations! You really did get a bargain!

 

[thecollector629]

Good morning!
Can I please get opinions on these (in my possession)?
1. Dark brown city bag
2. Black pocket purse
THANK YOU!

 

[thecollector629]

And these two?
3. Brown Lexington drawstring
4. Red Ergo flap
Thanks again!
PS - Let me know if you need measurements

 

[thecollector629]

And these two?
3. Brown Lexington drawstring
4. Red Ergo flap
Thanks again!
PS - Let me know if you need measurements

Also, do you know why it is stamped "FS" in a circle?

 

[SheriDahlin]

Turkey ALSO used "2" as a plant code. Many countries had more than one plant!

Please explain "doesn't look right". I don't see the problems you must be seeing.

ebay item: Vintage Coach Crossbody
seller: Margo_elkin

http://www.ebay.com/itm/121549819893...%3AMEBIDX%3AIT

So, then~Is this Court bag Authentic? I am using the correct format when asking for authentication.
What doesn't look right is the creed~serial number, since I've not seen any mention of using a NUMBER 2 for a plant code before..And I've not seen mention of the Turkey plant using a "2" in any authenticity guides either..
Thank you in advance!













..what doesn't look right is the creed/ serial number

 

[Hyacinth]

And these two?
3. Brown Lexington drawstring
4. Red Ergo flap
Thanks again!
PS - Let me know if you need measurements

The Ergo Flap is ok but I'm worried about the Lexington Drawstring. The others I've seen and the other Lexingtons I have photos of all have the logo lining, not the Sonoma stripe, and almost all seem to have been made in Italy except for a handful from the DR. A few early ones from 1997 may have had a solid color lining, it's hard to tell from the photos.

Maybe Coach was trying to clear out the remaining fabric but there are a few small differences in the serial number font too. I'd have to call it Questionable.
ETA - there's also a fake Lexington style number creed in Ebay's Completed listings with a J4D- prefix which is 3 years too early for any Lexington that has the same Sonoma stripe lining:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-Coa...D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557

The FS stamp in the Ergo means Final Sale.

 

[Hyacinth]

ebay item: Vintage Coach Crossbody
seller: Margo_elkin

http://www.ebay.com/itm/121549819893...%3AMEBIDX%3AIT

So, then~Is this Court bag Authentic? I am using the correct format when asking for authentication.
What doesn't look right is the creed~serial number, since I've not seen any mention of using a NUMBER 2 for a plant code before..And I've not seen mention of the Turkey plant using a "2" in any authenticity guides either..
Thank you in advance!


..what doesn't look right is the creed/ serial number

I've ALREADY said that the 2 plant code is valid for Turkey.

And there are no Guides including mine that list every single plant code and when it was used so why would not finding it in a Guide mean that it's invalid?

I don't see anything that would make me think it's fake - but I don't have another creed from that date and plant to compare it to, so I'm going to call it probably ok but can't be 100 percent sure because of the serial font. I'd also like to see a photo of the back of the turnlock.

EDITED TO ADD - I've found two more bags from the same plant and year and the serial number fonts and spacing do match the font in the Court Bag, so the Court seems to be genuine.

 

[SheriDahlin]

ok~ thanks for that info

 

[thecollector629]

The Ergo Flap is ok but I'm worried about the Lexington Drawstring. The others I've seen and the other Lexingtons I have photos of all have the logo lining, not the Sonoma stripe, and almost all seem to have been made in Italy except for a handful from the DR. A few early ones from 1997 may have had a solid color lining, it's hard to tell from the photos.

Maybe Coach was trying to clear out the remaining fabric but there are a few small differences in the serial number font too. I'd have to call it Questionable.
ETA - there's also a fake Lexington style number creed in Ebay's Completed listings with a J4D- prefix which is 3 years too early for any Lexington that has the same Sonoma stripe lining:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-Coa...D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557

The FS stamp in the Ergo means Final Sale.

YUCH!
The bag looks perfect on the outside as far as stitching, leather quality/texture and font on the logo.
The fabric on the interior is a little questionable to me, but could be that it is worn and has pilling.
I noticed that the zippered pocket is kind of small, so I wrote one of the sellers who has an authentic one listed and asked for the measurements, will let you know in case that will shed more light on it.
THanks Hyacinth!

 

[Hyacinth]

Good morning!
Can I please get opinions on these (in my possession)?
1. Dark brown city bag
2. Black pocket purse
THANK YOU!

They both look ok

 

[thecollector629]

The Ergo Flap is ok but I'm worried about the Lexington Drawstring. The others I've seen and the other Lexingtons I have photos of all have the logo lining, not the Sonoma stripe, and almost all seem to have been made in Italy except for a handful from the DR. A few early ones from 1997 may have had a solid color lining, it's hard to tell from the photos.

Maybe Coach was trying to clear out the remaining fabric but there are a few small differences in the serial number font too. I'd have to call it Questionable.
ETA - there's also a fake Lexington style number creed in Ebay's Completed listings with a J4D- prefix which is 3 years too early for any Lexington that has the same Sonoma stripe lining:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-Coach-Sonoma-Leather-Smaller-Crossbody-Shoulder-Bag-Purse-USA-4186-/321600855212?pt=US_CSA_WH_Handbags&hash=item4ae0e79cac&nma=true&si=s4yt%252FsZVP3RyHpCwv73pOAha3sM%253D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557

The FS stamp in the Ergo means Final Sale.

So are the first two okay (brown city and black pocket purse)?
Thanks!

NEVER MIND!! TY!