Authenticate This COACH - **see first post for format**

[Vlad]

IMPORTANT READ-ME

Please post authenticity questions related to COACH in this thread. No PMs please.
For further information, please refer to the first post on page 1 of this thread.

Please follow the following requests:

• Before you submit a request for authentication, please search this thread to make sure that the item has not previously been authenticated by searching the seller ID and/or item number. This is not a thread to ask general questions about COACH, please refer to our main Coach forum for such information.
• Note that authenticators have the right to refuse any requests. This is a free service, but it is imperative that you help our authenticators by using the following format:
• FOR ITEMS LISTED ONLINE:
  Item:
  Listing number:
  Seller and site where listed
  Link:
  Comments:
  
  
• FOR ITEMS NOT LISTED ONLINE:
  Item:
  Where purchased or how obtained
  Comments:

BASIC PICTURES REQUIRED (but more may be requested): If necessary pictures are in the listing, it's not necessary to upload and duplicate them.

• Front of item
• Back of item
• Full clear and legible creed text and serial number
• Made in tags (when available)
• Measurements
• For bags with turnlock closures, show pictures of back of female side of turnlock
• For bags with magnetic snaps, show pictures of the male part of the snap so that the numbers and letters on it can be read
• If applicable, search interior of bag and/or pockets for small white tag with production information and include a picture of that.

Thank you and be safe!

 

[Hyacinth]

One more question for you all...
Do you know what style of Coach bag is featured in this video?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X7iC3yXkdYw

I can't seem to find anything similar with the gusseted front pocket.
Thanks!

It's a Rambler's Legacy, style 9061 from the late 1990s

 

[goldenrouge]

It's a Rambler's Legacy, style 9061 from the late 1990s

Ya'll are amazing! Thank you!!

 

[whateve]

Thank you both! I looked up jewelry pouches and that is what it is. Thank you for your time!

Thank you both so much for your speedy and educated responses! So appreciated.
Have a lovely evening and all the best!

Thank you very much.

You're welcome!

 

[Catbird9]

Item: Coach Legacy Medium Studio Flap Fromt Camel Tan Cross body Messenger #9145
Seller: RabbitEarVintage
Link: https://www.etsy.com/listing/247995918/coach-legacy-medium-studio-flap-fromt?ref=favs_view_17
Serial #: J8H-9145

Thank you in advance.

 

[Hyacinth]

Item: Coach Legacy Medium Studio Flap Fromt Camel Tan Cross body Messenger #9145
Seller: RabbitEarVintage
Link: https://www.etsy.com/listing/247995918/coach-legacy-medium-studio-flap-fromt?ref=favs_view_17
Serial #: J8H-9145

Thank you in advance.

Fake. That's not the correct font for that serial number sequence. There's also a problem with the date.

J8H-, J8Y-, and especially J8P- codes from the last half of the 1990s should always be assumed to be fake unless we can prove they're authentic. And I don't remember that happening recently. The longer we look, the more fakes we find with those prefixes.

And it's NOT 20 years old - another Etsy seller lying about the age of a bag to get around the 20-year age limit for manufactured Etsy items.

There's also a chance that the seller's "Bixby Sling" is fake. There's no visible serial number, nor is a number listed in the description, and there's at least one other possible problem. The pictures aren't clear enough to be absolutely sure but I'd suggest being very careful about buying from Etsy seller " RabbitEarVintage "

BeenBurned might want to take a look at her Dooneys.

 

[Katherine2020]

There's another one of these on ebay.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-Tan...7d2c858&pid=100011&rk=1&rkt=2&sd=151801618502

Yes! I was looking at that one, and the listing for this one came up in the similar items at the bottom. I got a better deal!

 

[BeenBurned]

Item: Coach Legacy Medium Studio Flap Fromt Camel Tan Cross body Messenger #9145
Seller: RabbitEarVintage
Link: https://www.etsy.com/listing/247995918/coach-legacy-medium-studio-flap-fromt?ref=favs_view_17
Serial #: J8H-9145

Thank you in advance.

Fake. That's not the correct font for that serial number sequence. There's also a problem with the date.

J8H-, J8Y-, and especially J8P- codes from the last half of the 1990s should always be assumed to be fake unless we can prove they're authentic. And I don't remember that happening recently. The longer we look, the more fakes we find with those prefixes.

And it's NOT 20 years old - another Etsy seller lying about the age of a bag to get around the 20-year age limit for manufactured Etsy items.

There's also a chance that the seller's "Bixby Sling" is fake. There's no visible serial number, nor is a number listed in the description, and there's at least one other possible problem. The pictures aren't clear enough to be absolutely sure but I'd suggest being very careful about buying from Etsy seller " RabbitEarVintage "

BeenBurned might want to take a look at her Dooneys.

Her Dooneys seem authentic but some aren't even close to being vintage (20+) as they're about 10 years old.

Although this isn't as big a deal as listing fakes and violating Etsy "vintage" policy, she also seems to make up names of the colors of her items. Dooney has never used "licorice" as a name for black!

 

[HI5O]

Please authenticate. Thank you BeenBurned for the link.

Item: Vintage Coach British Tan Sling Flap Bag Crossbody Hippie Messenger
Listing number: 151802544353
Seller: uptownfoxfashion
Link: http://www.ebay.com/itm/151802544353?_trksid=p2060353.m2749.l2649&ssPageName=STRK:MEBIDX:IT
Comments: I'm pretty sure this is the Taft bag.

Seller stands by authenticity but will refund me.
Here are the photos I took:

 

[BeenBurned]

Please authenticate. Thank you BeenBurned for the link.

Item: Vintage Coach British Tan Sling Flap Bag Crossbody Hippie Messenger
Listing number: 151802544353
Seller: uptownfoxfashion
Link: http://www.ebay.com/itm/151802544353?_trksid=p2060353.m2749.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT
Comments: I'm pretty sure this is the Taft bag.

Seller stands by authenticity but will refund me.
Here are the photos I took:

You ARE absolutely correct. The bag is fake and the serial number is a known and always fake invalid number.
If necessary, refer your seller here: http://forum.purseblog.com/coach-sh...enticity-questions-94198-10.html#post15635438

I don't know who she's having it "authenticated" by to dispute your claim but if they come back with anything but fake, they're incompetent.

For other authenticators who may not have see the posts in the ebay forum, it starts here:
#5261 - http://forum.purseblog.com/ebay-for...-and-bonanza-etc-646884-117.html#post29179337

 

[HI5O]

BeenBurned, thank you SO much for checking it out for me. Lesson learned. Before I buy anymore bags, I will contact TPF to authenticate. Thank you again for your time.

 

[Hyacinth]

You ARE absolutely correct. The bag is fake and the serial number is a known and always fake invalid number.
If necessary, refer your seller here: http://forum.purseblog.com/coach-sh...enticity-questions-94198-10.html#post15635438

I don't know who she's having it "authenticated" by to dispute your claim but if they come back with anything but fake, they're incompetent.

For other authenticators who may not have see the posts in the ebay forum, it starts here:
#5261 - http://forum.purseblog.com/ebay-for...-and-bonanza-etc-646884-117.html#post29179337

BB, all the links are wacky. I think just post locations, dates and post numbers will work better, unless I'm the only person having problems.

There's another fake M4N-4154 on Ebay right now in a completely different style from the Taft, looks like some kind of fake Soho style.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/COACH-Vintage-Black-Leather-Handbag-/131605436644?hash=item1ea44b98e4
CORRECTION - TWO fakes, one is a briefcase:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/COACH-4154-...iefcase-Bag-/262038228197?hash=item3d02b20ce5
That number has never been found in a genuine Coach and I'd bet my bippy that it never will be.

AND ALL THREE HAVE "SCRTCHES" IN THE CREED STATEMENT INCLUDING THE FAKE THAT HI5O BOUGHT !!!

 

[whateve]

BB, all the links are wacky. I think just post locations, dates and post numbers will work better, unless I'm the only person having problems.

It's tpf. Links within the site never seem to work right. The link to the listing works. The discussion is in the tpf ebay forum in the general answer section. Links to Coach.com aren't working properly either.

 

[HI5O]

BB, all the links are wacky. I think just post locations, dates and post numbers will work better, unless I'm the only person having problems.

There's another fake M4N-4154 on Ebay right now in a completely different style from the Taft, looks like some kind of fake Soho style.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/COACH-Vintage-Black-Leather-Handbag-/131605436644?hash=item1ea44b98e4
CORRECTION - TWO fakes, one is a briefcase:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/COACH-4154-...iefcase-Bag-/262038228197?hash=item3d02b20ce5
That number has never been found in a genuine Coach and I'd bet my bippy that it never will be.

AND ALL THREE HAVE "SCRTCHES" IN THE CREED STATEMENT INCLUDING THE FAKE THAT HI5O BOUGHT !!!

OMG I hadn't even caught that! Any advice to how I should respond to seller? Seller says she will attach a letter of authenticity to the dispute to remove the strike.

 

[whateve]

OMG I hadn't even caught that! Any advice to how I should respond to seller? Seller says she will attach a letter of authenticity to the dispute to remove the strike.

Ignore her. Just make sure you get your refund before you cancel the sale. The strike doesn't concern you.

 

[Hyacinth]

OMG I hadn't even caught that! Any advice to how I should respond to seller? Seller says she will attach a letter of authenticity to the dispute to remove the strike.

She can attach letters from the Pope, the Archbishop of Canterbury, and the Dalai Lama for all I care, the bag is STILL a POS FAKE. If she wants to come here and have a debate with me, I'm more than happy to prove her wrong.

You can give her a link to this thread too, starting with your original question
http://forum.purseblog.com/coach-sh...e-before-posting-889527-623.html#post29179640

For starters, Copy & Save ALL of the seller's listing photos NOW before the listing diappears, and save these three as well that I copied and enlarged from her listing - notice the misspelling of "scrtches" in the creed too. Wait for BeenBurned for more advice.

Meanwhile, as always, we don't recommend buying from sellers like uptownfoxfashion who make NO attempt to verify a bag's authenticity even when there's a free-to-use Fashion Discussion forum right on Ebay where she could have done it after she got your complaint, and where she SHOULD have done it before she even listed that fake. There are at least 5 or 6 MAJOR mistakes that prove it's fake beyond any doubt.