answers to AUTHENTICITY questions!!!

babes_elise · Jun 16th, 2007, 11:15 AM

wow! i learned a lot from this forum esp. the one's that "OurLittleSecret" had posted. I went ahead and check my coach purses. whew!

Hyacinth · Jun 16th, 2007, 09:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by disney16

Is this authentic? It just sold on eBay for $172.50. The bag looks ok but the tag looks a little suspicious.

The actual Authenticate This! Board is just a few steps away, this one is just for tips and guidelines. Come on over:
http://forum.purseblog.com/coach/aut...ach-21893.html

(I agre with you about the hangtag though)

missjennieb · Jun 16th, 2007, 09:59 PM

*edited post*

tiff'smom · Jun 18th, 2007, 10:36 PM

Hi, I am new. And oh so glad to have found this board! I have numerous coach purses-all purchased by me at Coach so I Know they are real; but I have never bought a wallet. i recently picked up this wallet and need help authenticating it. If you could please check out these pics and let me know what you think. TIA
http://i75.photobucket.com/albums/i2...3/ebay7057.jpg
http://i75.photobucket.com/albums/i2...3/ebay7042.jpg
http://i75.photobucket.com/albums/i2...3/ebay7046.jpg
http://i75.photobucket.com/albums/i2...3/ebay7043.jpg
http://i75.photobucket.com/albums/i2...3/ebay7048.jpg

divalori · Jun 18th, 2007, 10:52 PM

I have a wallet on eBay right now that I bought at the boutique in Chicago and my box doesn't have a sticker on it, and it didn't come with hangtag at all. I don't know if that's typical...but.....that's how it came :)

bigbodyalize · Jun 24th, 2007, 02:02 PM

was sent a message that the Coach purse i bid on was not authenticate. was from sprkljen--i will look at purse again with the info i go here about what to look for - if not real will cancel out my bid -thanks for the tip -i'm new to this.

*Coach*Lover* · Jun 27th, 2007, 05:03 PM

Wallets...what do you look for when authenicating (is that the word?) a wallet? I know there are so many fakes out there...it is hard to tell?

knuttybar · Jun 27th, 2007, 09:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by IHeartCoach

I'm notsure if this has been posted but it's from eBay on authenticitizing or whatever you call it Coaches...

http://reviews.ebay.com/BEST-WAYS-TO...00000003643909

That is a GREAT link....very helpful. Thanks for the post!

knuttybar · Jun 27th, 2007, 09:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by *Coach*Lover*

Wallets...what do you look for when authenicating (is that the word?) a wallet? I know there are so many fakes out there...it is hard to tell?

Good question...wallets still stump me as far as authenticating...any answers?

Hyacinth · Jun 28th, 2007, 12:49 AM

Nope, there are no easy ways to figure out wallets, they're very easy to fake. Sometimes the only way to tell is to actually hold it and feel how thick the leather and the fabric are.

But if you see a seller with a lot of Signature wallets in their current and completed auctions and their feed back, that's a big danger sign. Black and khaki Sig wallets on eBay are almost always fake, just like keychains. And sometimes there are easier ways to tell, but the best thing to do is ask someone in the Authenticate This thread to give an opinion. We usually can't say for sure if it's real but often we can say for sure that it's fake.

katielady · Jul 11th, 2007, 11:21 PM

Thanks for the great info!

Hyacinth · Jul 21st, 2007, 04:56 PM

Just to make sure we don't lose track of this thread...

Hyacinth · Jul 24th, 2007, 11:23 AM

There have been some additions to Daria48's Fake Serial Numbers post since I copied it here so maybe it's time to update our list
http://forums.ebay.com/db2/thread.js...179152&start=0

Here are the most common fake serial numbers found so far on the older bags, and some of the numbers are appearing on newer fakes too:

NT-4903
NT-4908
NT-4115
NT-4157
NT-9992
DK-8674
TF-6823
TN-4136
TN-4186
TN-9085
TN-9096
TN-9951

4C-8624
4C-9911
40-8624
7H-7456

ANY Coach bag with only two letters or one number and one letter to the left of the hyphen can be assumed to be fake.

Any serial number that has only one set of numbers after the "No-" is fake, such as "No-10325"

501-20 + all similar numbers starting with 101-, 202-, 501-, 701-, etc., followed by 2 or 3 numbers after the dash and usually with a patch that says "made in Korea" are fake.

Coach never made bags in Korea and never used serial numbers with only 5 digits like this:
"xxx-xx" or "xxx-xxx" and without the abbreviated "No." in front of the numbers

Coach never made "classic" leather bags with matching sewn-on cell phone holders.

H4B-0516

H4B-0678

H4B-0517

H4B-0520

H4B-0532

HRB-0516

Probably ANY serial number beginning with H4B followed by a style # beginning with 0 is probably fake (a Scooter Bag H4B-9893 and a Bucket Bag H4B-9948 are two of the exceptions)

012-3445

A2G-6094

A5B-3906 - fake Sonoma Double Zip Bags

J4D-4133 - Fake if it's NOT a Waverly Bag

M4N-4154
Anything starting with M4N is suspicious.

There is at least a 75 percent chance that bags with this number are fake:
308-9875

308-9937 - probably fake

There are some ending in -9927 but aren't Willis Bag

Any recent or current model bag with a serial prefix of M3U- is fake. A genuine bag with this number would have been made in 2003.

The counterfeiters also use many legitimate-looking serial numbers but on the wrong style bags or accessories, like -5659 which should only be on a Scribble Tote, and -1417 which should only be on an East-West Leather duffle. Accessories with style #-5077 are fake, that number belongs to an Optic Bee Tote.
And there are fake Sonoma-style bags with -4394, -4082 and -4398 style numbers

Recent Coaches with a thick paper tag that says "Made In Italy" are fakes.

Check EVERY bag that you buy or sell carefully! Double-check the serial number against others listed for sale. And please report the fakes to eBay.

And always ask here at the Authenticate This! thread
Authenticate This! Coach

or at the eBay Purses Forum if you're not sure
http://forums.ebay.com/db2/forum.jsp...mID=1000000009

babylima · Jul 24th, 2007, 02:33 PM

is this wallet real?
cuz i cant find it in the official website
thanks
http://hk.image.auctions.yahoo.com/u...____5546-5.jpg
http://i3.ac.hki.yahoo.com/users/8/8...____5551-3.jpg
http://i10.ac.hki.yahoo.com/users/8/...___5550a-5.jpg

P.S> u can enlarge some of the pics.thanks again

Hyacinth · Jul 24th, 2007, 03:01 PM

Questions about an item's authenticity should be posted at the Authenticate This! thread here:
Authenticate This! Coach

I've never seen that one before but maybe it was made just for the outlets.

Jun 16th, 2007, 11:15 AM	#136
babes_elise Member Location: Home of the fuzzies!	Re: answers to AUTHENTICITY questions!!! wow! i learned a lot from this forum esp. the one's that "OurLittleSecret" had posted. I went ahead and check my coach purses. whew!

Jun 16th, 2007, 09:59 PM	#138
missjennieb Member	Re: answers to AUTHENTICITY questions!!! edited post __________________ Wish list for PCE is checked off!! 6/14/07 Officially addicted to Coach! Last edited by missjennieb; Jun 16th, 2007 at 10:06 PM.

Jun 18th, 2007, 10:36 PM	#139
tiff'smom Member	Re: answers to AUTHENTICITY questions!!! Hi, I am new. And oh so glad to have found this board! I have numerous coach purses-all purchased by me at Coach so I Know they are real; but I have never bought a wallet. i recently picked up this wallet and need help authenticating it. If you could please check out these pics and let me know what you think. TIA http://i75.photobucket.com/albums/i2...3/ebay7057.jpg http://i75.photobucket.com/albums/i2...3/ebay7042.jpg http://i75.photobucket.com/albums/i2...3/ebay7046.jpg http://i75.photobucket.com/albums/i2...3/ebay7043.jpg http://i75.photobucket.com/albums/i2...3/ebay7048.jpg

Jun 18th, 2007, 10:52 PM	#140
divalori Still Lusty	Re: answers to AUTHENTICITY questions!!! I have a wallet on eBay right now that I bought at the boutique in Chicago and my box doesn't have a sticker on it, and it didn't come with hangtag at all. I don't know if that's typical...but.....that's how it came :)

Jun 24th, 2007, 02:02 PM	#141
bigbodyalize Member	Re: answers to AUTHENTICITY questions!!! was sent a message that the Coach purse i bid on was not authenticate. was from sprkljen--i will look at purse again with the info i go here about what to look for - if not real will cancel out my bid -thanks for the tip -i'm new to this.

Jun 27th, 2007, 05:03 PM	#142
CoachLover* Member	Re: answers to AUTHENTICITY questions!!! Wallets...what do you look for when authenicating (is that the word?) a wallet? I know there are so many fakes out there...it is hard to tell? __________________ My Collection!

Jun 28th, 2007, 12:49 AM	#145
Hyacinth Member Location: Chicago	Re: answers to AUTHENTICITY questions!!! Nope, there are no easy ways to figure out wallets, they're very easy to fake. Sometimes the only way to tell is to actually hold it and feel how thick the leather and the fabric are. But if you see a seller with a lot of Signature wallets in their current and completed auctions and their feed back, that's a big danger sign. Black and khaki Sig wallets on eBay are almost always fake, just like keychains. And sometimes there are easier ways to tell, but the best thing to do is ask someone in the Authenticate This thread to give an opinion. We usually can't say for sure if it's real but often we can say for sure that it's fake.

Jul 11th, 2007, 11:21 PM	#146
katielady Member Location: OH-IO	Re: answers to AUTHENTICITY questions!!! Thanks for the great info!

Jul 21st, 2007, 04:56 PM	#147
Hyacinth Member Location: Chicago	Re: answers to AUTHENTICITY questions!!! Just to make sure we don't lose track of this thread...

Jul 24th, 2007, 11:23 AM	#148
Hyacinth Member Location: Chicago	Re: answers to AUTHENTICITY questions!!! There have been some additions to Daria48's Fake Serial Numbers post since I copied it here so maybe it's time to update our list http://forums.ebay.com/db2/thread.js...179152&start=0 Here are the most common fake serial numbers found so far on the older bags, and some of the numbers are appearing on newer fakes too: NT-4903 NT-4908 NT-4115 NT-4157 NT-9992 DK-8674 TF-6823 TN-4136 TN-4186 TN-9085 TN-9096 TN-9951 4C-8624 4C-9911 40-8624 7H-7456 ANY Coach bag with only two letters or one number and one letter to the left of the hyphen can be assumed to be fake. Any serial number that has only one set of numbers after the "No-" is fake, such as "No-10325" 501-20 + all similar numbers starting with 101-, 202-, 501-, 701-, etc., followed by 2 or 3 numbers after the dash and usually with a patch that says "made in Korea" are fake. Coach never made bags in Korea and never used serial numbers with only 5 digits like this: "xxx-xx" or "xxx-xxx" and without the abbreviated "No." in front of the numbers Coach never made "classic" leather bags with matching sewn-on cell phone holders. H4B-0516 H4B-0678 H4B-0517 H4B-0520 H4B-0532 HRB-0516 Probably ANY serial number beginning with H4B followed by a style # beginning with 0 is probably fake (a Scooter Bag H4B-9893 and a Bucket Bag H4B-9948 are two of the exceptions) 012-3445 A2G-6094 A5B-3906 - fake Sonoma Double Zip Bags J4D-4133 - Fake if it's NOT a Waverly Bag M4N-4154 Anything starting with M4N is suspicious. There is at least a 75 percent chance that bags with this number are fake: 308-9875 308-9937 - probably fake There are some ending in -9927 but aren't Willis Bag Any recent or current model bag with a serial prefix of M3U- is fake. A genuine bag with this number would have been made in 2003. The counterfeiters also use many legitimate-looking serial numbers but on the wrong style bags or accessories, like -5659 which should only be on a Scribble Tote, and -1417 which should only be on an East-West Leather duffle. Accessories with style #-5077 are fake, that number belongs to an Optic Bee Tote. And there are fake Sonoma-style bags with -4394, -4082 and -4398 style numbers Recent Coaches with a thick paper tag that says "Made In Italy" are fakes. Check EVERY bag that you buy or sell carefully! Double-check the serial number against others listed for sale. And please report the fakes to eBay. And always ask here at the Authenticate This! thread Authenticate This! Coach or at the eBay Purses Forum if you're not sure http://forums.ebay.com/db2/forum.jsp...mID=1000000009 Last edited by Hyacinth; Jul 24th, 2007 at 11:37 AM.

Jul 24th, 2007, 02:33 PM	#149
babylima Member	Re: answers to AUTHENTICITY questions!!! is this wallet real? cuz i cant find it in the official website thanks http://hk.image.auctions.yahoo.com/u...____5546-5.jpg http://i3.ac.hki.yahoo.com/users/8/8...____5551-3.jpg http://i10.ac.hki.yahoo.com/users/8/...___5550a-5.jpg P.S> u can enlarge some of the pics.thanks again

Jul 24th, 2007, 03:01 PM	#150
Hyacinth Member Location: Chicago	Re: answers to AUTHENTICITY questions!!! Questions about an item's authenticity should be posted at the Authenticate This! thread here: Authenticate This! Coach I've never seen that one before but maybe it was made just for the outlets. Last edited by Hyacinth; Jul 24th, 2007 at 03:14 PM.