Authenticate This COACH - **see first post for format**

[Vlad]

IMPORTANT READ-ME

Please post authenticity questions related to COACH in this thread. No PMs please.
For further information, please refer to the first post on page 1 of this thread.

Please follow the following requests:

• Before you submit a request for authentication, please search this thread to make sure that the item has not previously been authenticated by searching the seller ID and/or item number. This is not a thread to ask general questions about COACH, please refer to our main Coach forum for such information.
• Note that authenticators have the right to refuse any requests. This is a free service, but it is imperative that you help our authenticators by using the following format:
• FOR ITEMS LISTED ONLINE:
  Item:
  Listing number:
  Seller and site where listed
  Link:
  Comments:
  
  
• FOR ITEMS NOT LISTED ONLINE:
  Item:
  Where purchased or how obtained
  Comments:

BASIC PICTURES REQUIRED (but more may be requested): If necessary pictures are in the listing, it's not necessary to upload and duplicate them.

• Front of item
• Back of item
• Full clear and legible creed text and serial number
• Made in tags (when available)
• Measurements
• For bags with turnlock closures, show pictures of back of female side of turnlock
• For bags with magnetic snaps, show pictures of the male part of the snap so that the numbers and letters on it can be read
• If applicable, search interior of bag and/or pockets for small white tag with production information and include a picture of that.

Thank you and be safe!

 

[tonicollected]

Thank you Hyacinth taking the time to point out the differences in the flap and the "No" I DO SEE them now. Truly shocked and bummed, but glad to know at the same time, appreciate it.

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[BeenBurned]

Thank you Hyacinth taking the time to point out the differences in the flap and the "No" I DO SEE them now. Truly shocked and bummed, but glad to know at the same time, appreciate it.

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Can you get a refund from wherever you purchased it? They were in violation of the law in selling it.

 

[kallikimberly]

I recently purchased a 1st Gen Mineral Rogue from an online auction. I have 2 other Rogue's. Both are 2nd gen, I believe. I've been comparing the 1st Gen to the others and the main thing I've noticed is that the leather doesn't feel quite as thick, but I don't know if that could be a due to color variation. My other 2 are Oxblood and Chalk, rather than Mineral. I also noticed the edging on this bag feels like the other 2, but I've seen a youtube video saying the edging on the 1st Gen is much stiffer, almost like there is a wire in it. This bag edging does not feel so stiff it's almost like a wire is inside. It feels very similar to the other 2. Absolutely everything else seems to check out, even when looking with a magnifying glass. Correct stamping on all the brass hardware as far as I can tell, and when compared to the others I have. There is a Made in Vietnam tag on the inside and a white No. L1580 38124 tag inside the zipper pocket. Either this is a deep fake or it's a true 1st Gen, but I don't know what would distinguish it as authentic. My reason for doubt is that the bag looks almost unused, but one side is so slouchy it does not stay upright on it's own, which I would not expect from a virtually unused bag, but perhaps it was stored incorrectly for years. Any photos needed to help determine it's authenticity, I'll be happy to take, but I'm guessing it will come down to details only an expert would recognize because the easy-to-spot signs of a fake aren't there. Anyone know enough about the 1st Gen Rogue in Mineral to tell me what photos you might need to help determine?

If this purse is not authentic, I will return it. https://shopgoodwill.com/item/175964899

 

[barneybeagle]

All I can tell you is that it's genuine. Maybe @whateve can supply more details.

Thanks very much, Hyacinth. I'll keep searching for more clues on this one!

 

[BeenBurned]

I recently purchased a 1st Gen Mineral Rogue from an online auction. I have 2 other Rogue's. Both are 2nd gen, I believe. I've been comparing the 1st Gen to the others and the main thing I've noticed is that the leather doesn't feel quite as thick, but I don't know if that could be a due to color variation. My other 2 are Oxblood and Chalk, rather than Mineral. I also noticed the edging on this bag feels like the other 2, but I've seen a youtube video saying the edging on the 1st Gen is much stiffer, almost like there is a wire in it. This bag edging does not feel so stiff it's almost like a wire is inside. It feels very similar to the other 2. Absolutely everything else seems to check out, even when looking with a magnifying glass. Correct stamping on all the brass hardware as far as I can tell, and when compared to the others I have. There is a Made in Vietnam tag on the inside and a white No. L1580 38124 tag inside the zipper pocket. Either this is a deep fake or it's a true 1st Gen, but I don't know what would distinguish it as authentic. My reason for doubt is that the bag looks almost unused, but one side is so slouchy it does not stay upright on it's own, which I would not expect from a virtually unused bag, but perhaps it was stored incorrectly for years. Any photos needed to help determine it's authenticity, I'll be happy to take, but I'm guessing it will come down to details only an expert would recognize because the easy-to-spot signs of a fake aren't there. Anyone know enough about the 1st Gen Rogue in Mineral to tell me what photos you might need to help determine?

If this purse is not authentic, I will return it. https://shopgoodwill.com/item/175964899

Please post a picture of that white tag. (That company shouldn't have authenticated it without that picture!)

 

[tonicollected]

Can you get a refund from wherever you purchased it? They were in violation of the law in selling it.

Thanks for the advise but unfortunately no, it was purchased at an estate sale a long time ago. Looks like I have been burned as well.

 

[kallikimberly]

Please post a picture of that white tag. (That company shouldn't have authenticated it without that picture!)

 

[BookBird]

Hi there! I wondering if someone would be willing to authenticate this Willis bag? The seller sent me quite a discount, and the serial number seems genuine to me but I still feel a little in over my head evaluating it's authenticity!

Item: Coach Willis Bag
Serial: No. J4C-9927
https://poshmark.com/listing/Coach-...s-Crossbody-Bag-9927-64ed1c6bc9a228b04042c640

Thanks in advance!

 

[Hyacinth]

Thanks for the advise but unfortunately no, it was purchased at an estate sale a long time ago. Looks like I have been burned as well.

It's happened to all of us, even the authenticators, at onetime or another. Getting burned can be a powerful motivator to learn what makes something authentic or fake and how to pass that knowledge on.

 

[Hyacinth]

Hi there! I wondering if someone would be willing to authenticate this Willis bag? The seller sent me quite a discount, and the serial number seems genuine to me but I still feel a little in over my head evaluating it's authenticity!

Item: Coach Willis Bag
Serial: No. J4C-9927
https://poshmark.com/listing/Coach-...s-Crossbody-Bag-9927-64ed1c6bc9a228b04042c640

Thanks in advance!

Please copy and post the seller's photo(s) of the creed and serial number. Thanks.

And please always include a copy of that photo in all authentication requests. Having the "right" serial number can never prove a "Coach" is authentic.

 

[BookBird]

Please copy and post the seller's photo(s) of the creed and serial number. Thanks.

And please always include a copy of that photo in all authentication requests. Having the "right" serial number can never prove a "Coach" is authentic.

Thanks, Hyacinth, for bearing with me as I learn the ropes! Here's the photo of the creed and serial number on the post:

 

[whateve]

Hi there! I wondering if someone would be willing to authenticate this Willis bag? The seller sent me quite a discount, and the serial number seems genuine to me but I still feel a little in over my head evaluating it's authenticity!

Item: Coach Willis Bag
Serial: No. J4C-9927
https://poshmark.com/listing/Coach-...s-Crossbody-Bag-9927-64ed1c6bc9a228b04042c640

Thanks in advance!

Thanks, Hyacinth, for bearing with me as I learn the ropes! Here's the photo of the creed and serial number on the post: View attachment 5857031

It's authentic.

 

[whateve]

Gah! This bag is confusing me. It is a navy "pre-creed" bag. Measures approx 13" wide, 11" high, and 1.5" deep. Handles have a 5" drop. The leather is thick and supple.

ISSUES: the metal trim around the exterior kisslock compartment is silvertone. The hardware for handle attachment is silvertone. The zipper ring and pull are silvertone. The zipper teeth are brass tone, as well as the "BEAD CHAIN" stamped hang tag chain.
Is this authentic? It doesn't look like any of the totes of this era (late 60s, early 70s?) that I've seen. Help!

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It's authentic. The brass plating could have worn off. I did it accidentally to a bag once by washing it in TSP. It's an early version of the skinny tote.

 

[angi562]

Another shopgoodwill oddball. I have never seen this bag. Thank you in advance.

 

[ConnieinSeattle]

Another shopgoodwill oddball. I have never seen this bag. Thank you in advance.



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I had a bag of this style, looks like a "marble bag." Rare, and valuable!