Authenticate This COACH - **see first post for format**

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Please post authenticity questions related to COACH in this thread. No PMs please.
For further information, please refer to the first post on page 1 of this thread.

Please follow the following requests:
  • Before you submit a request for authentication, please search this thread to make sure that the item has not previously been authenticated by searching the seller ID and/or item number. This is not a thread to ask general questions about COACH, please refer to our main Coach forum for such information.
  • Note that authenticators have the right to refuse any requests. This is a free service, but it is imperative that you help our authenticators by using the following format:
  • FOR ITEMS LISTED ONLINE:
    Item:
    Listing number:
    Seller and site where listed
    Link:
    Comments:

  • FOR ITEMS NOT LISTED ONLINE:
    Item:
    Where purchased or how obtained
    Comments:
BASIC PICTURES REQUIRED (but more may be requested): If necessary pictures are in the listing, it's not necessary to upload and duplicate them.
  • Front of item
  • Back of item
  • Full clear and legible creed text and serial number
  • Made in tags (when available)
  • Measurements
  • For bags with turnlock closures, show pictures of back of female side of turnlock
  • For bags with magnetic snaps, show pictures of the male part of the snap so that the numbers and letters on it can be read
  • If applicable, search interior of bag and/or pockets for small white tag with production information and include a picture of that.
Thank you and be safe!
 
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BeenBurned said:
In this case, your bag looks fine, but it's also a good example of why one should question all listings, even those that come with COAs.

A company authenticating Coach loses credibility if they judge an item based on pictures that aren't adequate to verify authenticity. And so many times, various companies have issued "certificates of authenticity" in cases where the pictures do NOT prove authenticity.

And with Goodwill (especially?), they put too much blind trust into the (so far) 2 companies they use for authentications and it appears that Goodwill doesn't notify those companies when errors have been made. And the lack of notification makes Goodwill look bad and can also hurt those companies who aren't made aware of the need to tweak their skills and knowledge.

JMHO.
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Thank you so much! I'm glad this bag is authentic, however the leather isn't quite as thick as the other two I have, so that must just be a color variation. Between that and the actual shade that isn't as compatible with my wardrobe as I thought it would be, I may end up selling it. My biggest worry was possibly passing on a deep fake to someone else, which I would never knowingly do. Glad that this time the COA can be relied upon. Having said that, I've read some articles on how the counterfeit market has upped their game so much it's often very tiny details that separate the real deal from the copy, so it does seem difficult to judge authenticity from just photos, unless the authenticator is looking at the tiny details too.
 
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BeenBurned said:
I did respond with my opinion of the bag's authenticity however I want to comment further on the reply you received from Goodwill claiming that they "rely on the authentication service for the accuracy of their listings."

I commend Goodwill for their attempts to stay honest however from what I've seen of their responses to buyers who've received fakes, it doesn't appear that they notify Entrupy or AF of errors. (Additionally, I've seen COAs from both companies that would never have been issued - even if the bags were authentic - because the pictures submitted aren't adequate for authentication!)

Both companies that they use for their "authentications" have erred multiple times and sadly, the record for Entrupy, which uses AI (artificial intelligence) is dreadful. My guess is that Entrupy is wrong close to 50% of the time, at least with Coach. The other company has a better record but still errs and many listings have inadequate clear and definitive pictures.

Yet Goodwill continues to use the companies, seemingly assuming that the buyers and potential buyers who notify them are wrong.

Please feel free to let Goodwill know that if their integrity is important to them and if they want buyers to be reassured that COAs are accurate, they need to make corrections so their "experts" can fix the mistakes. You're welcome to forward this post to Goodwill and also advise them to search the forum for other errors on their COAs.

There's nothing I'd like more than to trust that a COA is accurate. Some companies are better than others and some companies use 2nd and 3rd opinions from different experts to confirm and/or correct errors.

I had a personal experience. I found (what I thought was) a gorgeous Prada bag. The construction and details were meticulous. After posting on ebay to verify whether it was worth getting a professional opinion and COA, I submitted about 2 dozen pictures to a company that has multiple brand experts. They use humans to authenticate, each with his/her specialty in specific brands.

I was shocked when the finding was that it was fake and requested that it be looked at again.

After a second (different) Prada expert confirmed it was fake, I returned the item to my place of purchase.
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Your story of the Prada bag is exactly what I was afraid of, and why I looked over the bag with a magnifying glass. I was happy to see the Coach stamps in all the right places on the hardware. I also figured counterfeiters would be less likely to almost-exactly replicate a 1st Gen Rogue than a luxury brand simply due to the difference in selling price, but then again, I don't really know what price point motivates them to create copies so close to the original it's nearly impossible to tell the difference.
 
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Hello! I am hoping you can assist with some information on this bag and if it is authentic. Your assistance is greatly appreciated, and many thanks in advance!

Tan Coach Bag, pictures included
Approximate measurements 10"X8"X4"
Bought at estate sale

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KitOHara said:
Hi Authenticators,

Both of these bags were thrifted. Wondering if they are authentic and what they are? I believe one (not the tote) is a Taylor?

Thank you!

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Both are fine.

Taylor zip is correct for 9944.

I believe 4067 is called an Organizer tote.
 
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mahoney5491 said:
Hello! I am hoping you can assist with some information on this bag and if it is authentic. Your assistance is greatly appreciated, and many thanks in advance!

Tan Coach Bag, pictures included
Approximate measurements 10"X8"X4"
Bought at estate sale

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Is this bag an online listing?

If so, please post a link to the listing and seller ID.

If not online, just please state source (yard sale, thrift store, estate sale, etc.)
 
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Hello authenticators!

I’d be so grateful if you could help me authenticate this little mahogany Emmie bag (#9018) I bought on Vinted (european Poshmark). I still have 48 hours to signal an issue with my purchase.

The stitching looks mostly good except in the front part underneath the flap. The leather is nice. I’m mostly worried about the creed being very lightly pressed (and thus not very readable), and the serial number (I can’t find any other Emmie bag that was produced in 1999, they all seem to be from 1997…).

What do you think?
Thank you so much!

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varias said:
Hello authenticators!

I’d be so grateful if you could help me authenticate this little mahogany Emmie bag (#9018) I bought on Vinted (european Poshmark). I still have 48 hours to signal an issue with my purchase.

The stitching looks mostly good except in the front part underneath the flap. The leather is nice. I’m mostly worried about the creed being very lightly pressed (and thus not very readable), and the serial number (I can’t find any other Emmie bag that was produced in 1999, they all seem to be from 1997…).

What do you think?
Thank you so much!

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Return it because it's fake.

Sorry.
 
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