Authenticate This COACH - **see first post for format**

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IMPORTANT READ-ME

Please post authenticity questions related to COACH in this thread. No PMs please.
For further information, please refer to the first post on page 1 of this thread.

Please follow the following requests:
  • Before you submit a request for authentication, please search this thread to make sure that the item has not previously been authenticated by searching the seller ID and/or item number. This is not a thread to ask general questions about COACH, please refer to our main Coach forum for such information.
  • Note that authenticators have the right to refuse any requests. This is a free service, but it is imperative that you help our authenticators by using the following format:
  • FOR ITEMS LISTED ONLINE:
    Item:
    Listing number:
    Seller and site where listed
    Link:
    Comments:

  • FOR ITEMS NOT LISTED ONLINE:
    Item:
    Where purchased or how obtained
    Comments:
BASIC PICTURES REQUIRED (but more may be requested): If necessary pictures are in the listing, it's not necessary to upload and duplicate them.
  • Front of item
  • Back of item
  • Full clear and legible creed text and serial number
  • Made in tags (when available)
  • Measurements
  • For bags with turnlock closures, show pictures of back of female side of turnlock
  • For bags with magnetic snaps, show pictures of the male part of the snap so that the numbers and letters on it can be read
  • If applicable, search interior of bag and/or pockets for small white tag with production information and include a picture of that.
Thank you and be safe!
 
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#80,476
palight said:
Hi! Oh no - did I buy a fake? The zippers pulls are a different color than the buckles and are not engraved YKK. Purchased recently through Mercari.

Approx dimensions: 9.5" W (without snap pouches) x 5.0" H x 2.25" D

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Thje brand of zipper has ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to do with Coach authenticity. Read the Signature paragraph at the bottom of all my posts.And wherever you heard or read that nonsense, please ignore it and everything else from that source. That "rule" was exposed as false almost 20 years ago.

And plating on zipper pulls can wear off. Neither of the details you mentioned are never used as a sole proof of authenticity or lack of it.

Read the six Salearea Coach Guide thread before going any further, and don't worry if some of the links in it no longer work:

SaleArea guides

Now that ebay is removing the guides they've been hosting for years, those who use those guides have been forced to either save them on their computers or print them. Tonight I found that the Salearea guides (including the Hyacinth/Salearea collaboration ones) have been saved to Salearea's...
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It looks like a genuine Waist Pouch, style 506 from the early 1990s
 
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Hello.. Can you help me to authenticate my latest coach bag that I found online please?

Item: Coach zip tote bag (I guess)
Serial number: I can not found any serial number on the creed (please see pic below)

Comments: I found the creed is suspicious, there is no serial number and it has crossgrain leather on the lining. And for the most Coach zip tote bag (with signature style), I saw the lining they used is genuine leather instead of crossgrain leather (the lining, the creed, and hang tag). This coach bag is made in vietnam by the way. Thank I hope you can help me. Cheers :smile:

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#80,478
yeris89 said:
Hello.. Can you help me to authenticate my latest coach bag that I found online please?

Item: Coach zip tote bag (I guess)
Serial number: I can not found any serial number on the creed (please see pic below)
Seller and site where listed : Carousell
Link: https://carousell.app.link/FixhZK31xxb

Comments: I found the creed is suspicious, there is no serial number and it has crossgrain leather on the lining. And for the most Coach zip tote bag (with signature style), I saw the lining they used is genuine leather instead of crossgrain leather (the lining, the creed, and hang tag). This coach bag is made in vietnam by the way. Thank I hope you can help me. Cheers :smile:

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I'm sorry. The bag is fake.

ETA: Include seller ID in requests.
Seller of the fake: Mamima @mamimarie on Carousell.
 
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ConnieinSeattle said:
I just want to thank you again for an authentication you all did in August. I remember seeing it then, and now, months later, I ended up with this unique Coach sample bag! Yay. It's for my personal collection. https://www.ebay.com/itm/266128816838?nma=true&si=Hm3D9VirJ1Olw7j2FUdXg2EGoto%3D&orig_cvip=true&nordt=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557
ebay, seller: three_tails_resale

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Gorgeous color to boot!
 
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Item: Dinky (??)
Listing number: 159833154
Seller and site where listed: Goodwill
Link: https://shopgoodwill.com/item/159833154



Comments:
Hi dear Authenticators,

Please find below a bag that I found at Goodwill. I was very happy to find a Made in NYC bag, but upon further inspection, I realized style number (9219) does not match the style (Dinky?). Can you please kindly share your thoughts? Also, what color would you say this?

Thank you so much for sharing your precious time with us here. I am beyond grateful.
 
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ON SELLERS MAKING THEIR OWN CERTIFICATE OF AUTHENTICITY

This is at least the third time I've seen this and AFAIK always from different sellers. Certificates Of Authenticity ONLY have credibility when they are published by known and impartial experts, usually members of a professional (meaning for-pay) authentication service. They should always include the legal or business name of the person or company, the service's contact information, perhaps a disclosure of the terms of restitution if the authentication proves to be in error, and a description of the item including any identifying, registration or serial numbers.

Sellers on Ebay can't create their own COAs for their own items. Not only is it deceptive, but such self-published "certificates" have NO recognition by Ebay, Paypal, or any legitimate selling or auction entity and according to common business practice should never be accepted as proof that an item is genuine, since there is NO proof of the "authenticator's" experience, expertise with that particular brand, or impartiality.

But while looking for something else on Ebay I came across a seller doing exactly that, not just for Coach but for 6 or 8 other handbag brands as well. The 'certificates" don't include any authenticator or service name or contact info and no identifying numbers and were apparently produced by the Ebay seller on their computer, which I believe is against Ebay Rules as well as accepted business practice. Even services that have a poor track record with authenticating follow a basic format.

I've posted here at tPF before about this situation. A seller has to KNOW that a brand-name item is genuine to list it on Ebay. Trying to convince a buyer that a qualified authenticator has looked at and verified its authenticity when no such examination has taken place is essentially deceptive, it's lying to the potential buyer and can give them a false sense of security. If the item turns out to be fake, the certificate is meaningless and doesn't prove a darned thing. It has no legal standing or merit. Please DON'T think that a COA always guarantees that you're getting an authentic item examined by an expert. Granted,a few well-advertised services aren't much more accurate with Coach products than if they just flipped a coin, but any service that can't prove their own expertise or back up their statements with a trustworthy COA that would "stand up in court" should be avoided. I have no problem with the Cleaning and Defects disclosures, but self-authentication is a very slippery slope and should be avoided.

Here's an example, click to enlarge:

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OK, rant over.
 
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#80,485
I got another bag for rehab. (Needs a new turnlock piece.) Authentico? Thanks!!
www.ebay.com

Vintage Coach Penelope City Legacy Black Leather Shoulder Bag J1P-9714 | eBay

Find many great new & used options and get the best deals for Vintage Coach Penelope City Legacy Black Leather Shoulder Bag J1P-9714 at the best online prices at eBay! Free shipping for many products!
www.ebay.com
ebay: seller, cattydoll
item: Vintage Coach Penelope City Legacy Black Leather Shoulder Bag J1P-9714

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#80,486
Jujufinder said:
Item: Dinky (??)
Listing number: 159833154
Seller and site where listed: Goodwill
Link: https://shopgoodwill.com/item/159833154



Comments:
Hi dear Authenticators,

Please find below a bag that I found at Goodwill. I was very happy to find a Made in NYC bag, but upon further inspection, I realized style number (9219) does not match the style (Dinky?). Can you please kindly share your thoughts? Also, what color would you say this?

Thank you so much for sharing your precious time with us here. I am beyond grateful.
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It's genuine. 9219 is NOT the style number.

Read the Salearea Guides thread for information on creeds, serial numbers and more.The Guide itself starts at post 13. Some older URLs are no longer active.

SaleArea guides

Now that ebay is removing the guides they've been hosting for years, those who use those guides have been forced to either save them on their computers or print them. Tonight I found that the Salearea guides (including the Hyacinth/Salearea collaboration ones) have been saved to Salearea's...
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Hyacinth said:
It's genuine. 9219 is NOT the style number.

Read the Salearea Guides thread for information on creeds, serial numbers and more.The Guide itself starts at post 13. Some older URLs are no longer active.

SaleArea guides

Now that ebay is removing the guides they've been hosting for years, those who use those guides have been forced to either save them on their computers or print them. Tonight I found that the Salearea guides (including the Hyacinth/Salearea collaboration ones) have been saved to Salearea's...
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Thank you very much, Hyacinth! I am on my way to reading this!
 
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ConnieinSeattle said:
I got another bag for rehab. (Needs a new turnlock piece.) Authentico? Thanks!!
www.ebay.com

Vintage Coach Penelope City Legacy Black Leather Shoulder Bag J1P-9714 | eBay

Find many great new & used options and get the best deals for Vintage Coach Penelope City Legacy Black Leather Shoulder Bag J1P-9714 at the best online prices at eBay! Free shipping for many products!
www.ebay.com
ebay: seller, cattydoll
item: Vintage Coach Penelope City Legacy Black Leather Shoulder Bag J1P-9714

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Genuine, actually a Penelope Bucket or Penelope Bucket Tote. The little key hood is missing, but there's no photo of the key hood in my files..
 
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ciaodenny said:
Hello friends. I was wondering if you guys can take a look at my recent finds.
Bag one.
Good will
9.0 in width x 5.0 in height x 1.5-2.0 in depth
Bag two
Savers
8x11x4.5

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Both are genuine, Dinky and Legacy West Hobo
 
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