Authenticate This COACH - **see first post for format**

[Vlad]

IMPORTANT READ-ME

Please post authenticity questions related to COACH in this thread. No PMs please.
For further information, please refer to the first post on page 1 of this thread.

Please follow the following requests:

• Before you submit a request for authentication, please search this thread to make sure that the item has not previously been authenticated by searching the seller ID and/or item number. This is not a thread to ask general questions about COACH, please refer to our main Coach forum for such information.
• Note that authenticators have the right to refuse any requests. This is a free service, but it is imperative that you help our authenticators by using the following format:
• FOR ITEMS LISTED ONLINE:
  Item:
  Listing number:
  Seller and site where listed
  Link:
  Comments:
  
  
• FOR ITEMS NOT LISTED ONLINE:
  Item:
  Where purchased or how obtained
  Comments:

BASIC PICTURES REQUIRED (but more may be requested): If necessary pictures are in the listing, it's not necessary to upload and duplicate them.

• Front of item
• Back of item
• Full clear and legible creed text and serial number
• Made in tags (when available)
• Measurements
• For bags with turnlock closures, show pictures of back of female side of turnlock
• For bags with magnetic snaps, show pictures of the male part of the snap so that the numbers and letters on it can be read
• If applicable, search interior of bag and/or pockets for small white tag with production information and include a picture of that.

Thank you and be safe!

 

[Lake Effect]

Oh, yeah, that's absolute proof it is fake. There should be seams there, like this

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The corner seams strike again!!

Eta: weird things are going on for me when I try to post, quote, edit since last night. Please excuse any weirdness till I get on my laptop!

 

[Lake Effect]

So the above pics go with post I started yesterday …

Edited, click this link for the post I started yesterday!

Post in thread 'Authenticate This COACH - **see first post for format**'
https://forum.purseblog.com/threads...ee-first-post-for-format.889527/post-35535196

I did not take measurements but can say it definitely fits the dimensions of a vintage Court, like the one I have. I have a few other comments, but want to hear your opinions. Thanks for dealing with the fact my phone wonked out when I tried to do this yesterday!

 

[BeenBurned]

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So the above pics go with post I started yesterday …

Post in thread 'Authenticate This COACH - **see first post for format**'
https://forum.purseblog.com/threads...ee-first-post-for-format.889527/post-35535196

I did not take measurements but can say it definitely fits the dimensions of a vintage Court, like the one I have. I have a few other comments, but want to hear your opinions. Thanks for dealing with the fact my phone wonked out when I tried to do this yesterday!

It's trying to be a Court but it's fake.

Did you buy it online? Link?

 

[Lake Effect]

It's trying to be a Court but it's fake.

Did you buy it online? Link?

No, per my prior post from yesterday, and sorry I had to break it up, it is at a local thrift shop. I did not buy it. Thank you for confirming!

Edited to add, if I was blindfolded and this bag was handed to me, I would have said the leather was Coach quality, for sure! So many details looked spot on, like the handle, stitching, as in nothing sloppy … Based on everything I have learned here, it helped to think that this was likely trying to be from 1994 based in the code and nickel was not offered then, then I looked for the plate, with indents. I decided to search tPF on the spot for month-year-plant and got my answer!

I wanted to post this for anyone wanting to learn and really understand, you will run across the bags and the leather will feel amazing, the style code will be correct, many construction details will be spot on, and it will still be fake !

Doing a search and posting here may help you begin to weed out the better made fakes!

 

[BeenBurned]

No, per my prior post from yesterday, and sorry I had to break it up, it is at a local thrift shop. I did not buy it. Thank you for confirming!

Edited to add, if I was blindfolded and this bag was handed to me, I would have said the leather was Coach quality, for sure! So many details looked spot on, like the handle, stitching, as in nothing sloppy … Based on everything I have learned here, it helped to think that this was likely trying to be from 1994 based in the code and nickel was not offered then, then I looked for the plate, with indents. I decided to search tPF on the spot for month-year-plant and got my answer!

I wanted to post this for anyone wanting to learn and really understand, you will run across the bags and the leather will feel amazing, the style code will be correct, many construction details will be spot on, and it will still be fake !

Doing a search and posting here may help you begin to weed out the better made fakes!

Sorry. Although I thought of doing it, I was too lazy to go back and look to see where you said it was.

I'm glad you didn't buy it. And your experience is the perfect example of why googling a style number, calling Coach with serial numbers, feeling the leather quality, etc. aren't dependable ways to determine authenticity.

 

[Lake Effect]

Sorry. Although I thought of doing it, I was too lazy to go back and look to see where you said it was.

I'm glad you didn't buy it. And your experience is the perfect example of why googling a style number, calling Coach with serial numbers, feeling the leather quality, etc. aren't dependable ways to determine authenticity.

I got lucky with a few vintage Coach I bought before I found tPF, I got them authenticated here. I knew at some point Coach used alpha-numeral-alpha then the style #. Prior to the guides and info here in the Forum, I had no clue that the counterfeiters got that educated and mimicked that. Honestly if it had brass hardware, I would have bought it for the hardware and strap! And then searched, what to do with a Foach!!!
As always, thank you for your hard work!

 

[Hyacinth]

I got lucky with a few vintage Coach I bought before I found tPF, I got them authenticated here. I knew at some point Coach used alpha-numeral-alpha then the style #. Prior to the guides and info here in the Forum, I had no clue that the counterfeiters got that educated and mimicked that. Honestly if it had brass hardware, I would have bought it for the hardware and strap! And then searched, what to do with a Foach!!!
As always, thank you for your hard work!

It's sobering to think that most of the accurate information for spotting fakes has only been researched and put together in the last 15 or 20 years. Before that, many of the posts from the experienced Coach buyers and sellers at Ebay Forums' old Fashion or Clothing, Shoes and Accessories Discussion boards based their authenticity recommendations on things like the quality of the leathers, stitching, etc., and people who looked more closely at things like serial numbers and catalog dates were ignored when they did enough research to start finding patterns in those details.

There are probably still many old-time buyers who bought "Coaches" more than 15 or 20 years ago and have never had them authenticated since then who unbeknowst to them have a few "vintage" fakes in their collections, especially items bought starting around 1990 and on to the present.

 

[Lake Effect]

It's sobering to think that most of the accurate information for spotting fakes has only been researched and put together in the last 15 or 20 years. Before that, many of the posts from the experienced Coach buyers and sellers at Ebay Forums' old Fashion or Clothing, Shoes and Accessories Discussion boards based their authenticity recommendations on things like the quality of the leathers, stitching, etc., and people who looked more closely at things like serial numbers and catalog dates were ignored when they did enough research to start finding patterns in those details.

There are probably still many old-time buyers who bought "Coaches" more than 15 or 20 years ago and have never had them authenticated since then who unbeknowst to them have a few "vintage" fakes in their collections, especially items bought starting around 1990 and on to the present.

Yeah it’s mind boggling. I discovered eBay around 2005, 2006 and was relieved when I had the couple of bags purchased from that time authenticated and they were legit.

 

[Bales25]

Posting this for a friend who inherited this bag. Please let me know if any additional pictures needed. I noticed the D-ring has a notch in it in her photos, but not sure if that indicates it's fake? Or perhaps those were changed out at some point?

Thank you in advance for your time!

 

[whateve]

Posting this for a friend who inherited this bag. Please let me know if any additional pictures needed. I noticed the D-ring has a notch in it in her photos, but not sure if that indicates it's fake? Or perhaps those were changed out at some point?

Thank you in advance for your time!

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It's authentic. I've seen several rings with notches. I don't know if it was done on purpose or if it happened with wear.

 

[Colton92294]

Another box of coaches popped out of the storage unit. Here's 3 for authentication. First is white signature coach bag creed b05k-2181 measures 13x9". Second is small black leather coach bag creed j8p-9138 measures 9x5". Third is brown leather coach bag creed k9d-9303 measures 12x8". Thanks! (Dont mind the fake LV in one of the pictures It was shoved inside the coach)

 

[BeenBurned]

Another box of coaches popped out of the storage unit. Here's 3 for authentication. First is white signature coach bag creed b05k-2181 measures 13x9". Second is small black leather coach bag creed j8p-9138 measures 9x5". Third is brown leather coach bag creed k9d-9303 measures 12x8". Thanks! (Dont mind the fake LV in one of the pictures It was shoved inside the coach)View attachment 5722601View attachment 5722602View attachment 5722603View attachment 5722605View attachment 5722607View attachment 5722608View attachment 5722609View attachment 5722610View attachment 5722600

#1 and #3 - signature 2181 and leather 9303 are authentic.

#2 - J8P bag is fake.

 

[Colton92294]

Thanks! Here's the last 3 for authentication. First is Brown leather coach bag creed C3s-9325 measures 12x11". Second is blue coach bag creed L055-4993 measures 14x8". Third is black signature tote coach bag creed m0773-11559 measures 16x8".

 

[BeenBurned]

Thanks! Here's the last 3 for authentication. First is Brown leather coach bag creed C3s-9325 measures 12x11". Second is blue coach bag creed L055-4993 measures 14x8". Third is black signature tote coach bag creed m0773-11559 measures 16x8". View attachment 5722611View attachment 5722612View attachment 5722613View attachment 5722614View attachment 5722615View attachment 5722617View attachment 5722618View attachment 5722622View attachment 5722623View attachment 5722624

All three are fine.

 

[palight]

Hi! Oh no - did I buy a fake? The zippers pulls are a different color than the buckles and are not engraved YKK. Purchased recently through Mercari.

Approx dimensions: 9.5" W (without snap pouches) x 5.0" H x 2.25" D