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Hello! Here are the pictures including a clearer picture of the creed that I took. Thank you so much, really appreciate the help. I am very new to this and have a lot to learn. I also am aware that the strap is not original :smile: Please let me know if you need an even clearer creed and I can attempt to get another one.

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Thank you for the photos.

It's a genuine Regina Bag made in late 1995. The serial number 9985 instead of 9983 is one of the known factory mistakes that we've seen before in genuine bags.
 
I agree with you about Goodwill being incompetent toauthenticate Coaches, and their paid authenticators especially Entrupy are even worse!

The thought of some incompetent phony "selling her expertise" is not just scary but INFURIATING. So, SUSAN WOOD OF THE SEATTLE AREA, if you're out there claiming to be a Coach expert, even if you're GIVING AWAY your useless and potentially dangerous opinions, you're still massively overcharging for them since you can't even recognise a genuine Coach when you see one. Anyone asking SUSAN WOOD for a Coach "authentication" is wasting time and probably going to lose money.

JMO.
Found her! The self proclaimed ”credentialed expert” is on Poshmark as @siouxanwould. I am dumbfounded by her response. I feel like I might be on some sick reality prank show or something. I will not engage further and have blocked her on Nextdoor and will do the same on Poshmark and anywhere else I find her. I highly recommend that anyone reading this heed my warning and steer clear of this person. She is a perfect example of why I often say “people are the worst!”.

“Your right about a number of things. If the bag in the photos you used for your post is the bag you’re actually selling, then I’m sorry but who ever authenticated it as what you took from the Internet from the 60’s -The tag that is on your bag, the leather one is absolutely from the 1997 release or perhaps it could likened to inspired by the 60’s crescent - the tag alone isn’t the only issue, the nickel hardware wasn’t used by Coach ever until again that magical number 1997’. Look obviously I think you’re a noob know it all and why do I waste my time? Right? Okay and there in lies the rub. Call me the velvet hammer dear, because I wrote you privately and I didn’t need to - It’s not polite or nice to tell a narcissist noob that they are wrong in front of anyone. Doing so would have turned into a trolltastic opportunity for said narcissist to go on untethered and by the end of it all you’d be sobbing, and red faced with snot dripping from your nose and well, I certainly didn’t want that on a Saturday morning.

I’m sorry I ruffled your feather’s. I’m hoping you know that wasn’t my intent. In the spirit of a good debate I suggest we go together to a real expert with credentials, if you’re right I’ll eat crow and buy you lunch where you can poke fun at me endlessly and I’ll take it with a smile and maybe an. Eye roll or two.

If I’m right though? Well, hmm… All I want is for you to change your ad.

Regards,
SW“
 
Found her! The self proclaimed ”credentialed expert” is on Poshmark as @siouxanwould. I am dumbfounded by her response. I feel like I might be on some sick reality prank show or something. I will not engage further and have blocked her on Nextdoor and will do the same on Poshmark and anywhere else I find her. I highly recommend that anyone reading this heed my warning and steer clear of this person. She is a perfect example of why I often say “people are the worst!”.

“Your right about a number of things. If the bag in the photos you used for your post is the bag you’re actually selling, then I’m sorry but who ever authenticated it as what you took from the Internet from the 60’s -The tag that is on your bag, the leather one is absolutely from the 1997 release or perhaps it could likened to inspired by the 60’s crescent - the tag alone isn’t the only issue, the nickel hardware wasn’t used by Coach ever until again that magical number 1997’. Look obviously I think you’re a noob know it all and why do I waste my time? Right? Okay and there in lies the rub. Call me the velvet hammer dear, because I wrote you privately and I didn’t need to - It’s not polite or nice to tell a narcissist noob that they are wrong in front of anyone. Doing so would have turned into a trolltastic opportunity for said narcissist to go on untethered and by the end of it all you’d be sobbing, and red faced with snot dripping from your nose and well, I certainly didn’t want that on a Saturday morning.

I’m sorry I ruffled your feather’s. I’m hoping you know that wasn’t my intent. In the spirit of a good debate I suggest we go together to a real expert with credentials, if you’re right I’ll eat crow and buy you lunch where you can poke fun at me endlessly and I’ll take it with a smile and maybe an. Eye roll or two.

If I’m right though? Well, hmm… All I want is for you to change your ad.

Regards,
SW“
Wow. Blocking was the right move. A lot of psychos out there. The first word of her communication tells everything. Uneducated.
 
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Hi authenticators,

Hope you're having a great weekend! Can I have the following two bags authenticated please.

Item 1: Vintage Coach Court Bag in Mahogany
Listing number: 195365179587
Seller and site where listed: Ebay by secondimpressions22
Link: https://www.ebay.com/itm/195365179587
Comments: The serial number is very faint, I did my best to get a good photo. The leather trim around the mouth of the bag doesn't look like my other one, I'm not sure if it's a different style or something.

Item 2 : vintage Coach Devon Bag in Navy
Listing number: 265918446838
Seller and site where listed: Ebay by lfedz926
Link: https://www.ebay.com/itm/265918446838
Comments: The leather on the interior of the outside bag panel has some white on the edges, like it didn't get painted over correctly. I'm not sure if that's common or not. I have attached photos of that area as well.

Thank you so much for the work that you do! I really appreciate it!
Best,
glliang

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Wow. Blocking was the right move. A lot of psychos out there. The first word of her communication tells everything. Uneduca
Interesting that it appears that she doesn't currently have any Coach bags for sale....nor has she sold any Coach bags. Seems odd that a ”credentialed expert” wouldn't be selling what she knows so much about.

ETA: Was trying to also quote

SJAllison

 
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Hi authenticators,

Hope you're having a great weekend! Can I have the following two bags authenticated please.

Item 1: Vintage Coach Court Bag in Mahogany
Listing number: 195365179587
Seller and site where listed: Ebay by secondimpressions22
Link: https://www.ebay.com/itm/195365179587
Comments: The serial number is very faint, I did my best to get a good photo. The leather trim around the mouth of the bag doesn't look like my other one, I'm not sure if it's a different style or something.

Item 2 : vintage Coach Devon Bag in Navy
Listing number: 265918446838
Seller and site where listed: Ebay by lfedz926
Link: https://www.ebay.com/itm/265918446838
Comments: The leather on the interior of the outside bag panel has some white on the edges, like it didn't get painted over correctly. I'm not sure if that's common or not. I have attached photos of that area as well.

Thank you so much for the work that you do! I really appreciate it!
Best,
glliang

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Both are genuine, Court Bag from 1999 and Devon Bag style 9908 made in the early 1990s
 
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Found her! The self proclaimed ”credentialed expert” is on Poshmark as @siouxanwould. I am dumbfounded by her response. I feel like I might be on some sick reality prank show or something. I will not engage further and have blocked her on Nextdoor and will do the same on Poshmark and anywhere else I find her. I highly recommend that anyone reading this heed my warning and steer clear of this person. She is a perfect example of why I often say “people are the worst!”.

“Your right about a number of things. If the bag in the photos you used for your post is the bag you’re actually selling, then I’m sorry but who ever authenticated it as what you took from the Internet from the 60’s -The tag that is on your bag, the leather one is absolutely from the 1997 release or perhaps it could likened to inspired by the 60’s crescent - the tag alone isn’t the only issue, the nickel hardware wasn’t used by Coach ever until again that magical number 1997’. Look obviously I think you’re a noob know it all and why do I waste my time? Right? Okay and there in lies the rub. Call me the velvet hammer dear, because I wrote you privately and I didn’t need to - It’s not polite or nice to tell a narcissist noob that they are wrong in front of anyone. Doing so would have turned into a trolltastic opportunity for said narcissist to go on untethered and by the end of it all you’d be sobbing, and red faced with snot dripping from your nose and well, I certainly didn’t want that on a Saturday morning.

I’m sorry I ruffled your feather’s. I’m hoping you know that wasn’t my intent. In the spirit of a good debate I suggest we go together to a real expert with credentials, if you’re right I’ll eat crow and buy you lunch where you can poke fun at me endlessly and I’ll take it with a smile and maybe an. Eye roll or two.

If I’m right though? Well, hmm… All I want is for you to change your ad.

Regards,
SW“
Omg! I’d take her up on the offer to have it looked at by someone with real credentials!
 
Wow. Blocking was the right move. A lot of psychos out there. The first word of her communication tells everything. Uneducated.

@SJAllison, please feel free to make a link to this reply available to "Susan"​

https://forum.purseblog.com/threads...ost-for-format.889527/page-5168#post-35373999


Her reply doesn't even make any sense.

Just one example - SUSAN says "If the bag in the photos you used for your post is the bag you’re actually selling, then I’m sorry but who ever authenticated it as what you took from the Internet from the 60’s -The tag that is on your bag, the leather one is absolutely from the 1997 release or perhaps it could likened to inspired by the 60’s crescent - the tag alone isn’t the only issue, the nickel hardware wasn’t used by Coachever until again that magical number 1997’.

???

One of the first things any authenticator with an ounce of brains learns is that you NEVER use the "tag" by which I'm guessing she means the hangtag, to authenticate a Coach since probably at least a fourth (just a very rough estimate and NOT based on an actual count) of vintage Coaches have had the hangtag replaced, often by something from a different time period. (There isn't even any hangtag in the photos the seller posted here BTW).
Then "Susan" mentions nickel hardware but the bag in the photos posted by the tPF member clearly shows BRASS hardware. If "Susan" wants to post actual screencaps of the tPF member's listing that Susan claims is a 1997 Coach with nickle hardware, I'll wait.


If "Susan" aka "siouxanwould" has ANY complaint about the facts in MY reply, she can take it up with ME, I'm sure it won't take long for her to find more than enough examples of MY experience in authenticating. She can start with searching here at tPF for my posts. And she can also search here for posts about Coach authenticity from BeenBurned since her expertise is also being called into question, although that will take a bit longer. Let's see, what's 34,000 posts plus another 50,000 posts...? Should only take her about 4 to 6 months to read them all if she's a fast reader. Then she can start on the Salearea Guides thread. Is being tPF-authorized and approved Coach authenticators (the ONLY way anyone is allowed to authenticate here at tPF) "credentialed" enough for you? And could you please post a photo of YOUR "credentials"?

Susan, I suggest you find a nice comfy chair and a LOT of coffee and START READING. Meanwhile, I stand by my previous statements. Like i keep saying over and over and over again, please leave the Coach authenticating to the experts.

Love, Hyacinth
 
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