Authenticate This COACH - **see first post for format**

[Vlad]

IMPORTANT READ-ME

Please post authenticity questions related to COACH in this thread. No PMs please.
For further information, please refer to the first post on page 1 of this thread.

Please follow the following requests:

• Before you submit a request for authentication, please search this thread to make sure that the item has not previously been authenticated by searching the seller ID and/or item number. This is not a thread to ask general questions about COACH, please refer to our main Coach forum for such information.
• Note that authenticators have the right to refuse any requests. This is a free service, but it is imperative that you help our authenticators by using the following format:
• FOR ITEMS LISTED ONLINE:
  Item:
  Listing number:
  Seller and site where listed
  Link:
  Comments:
  
  
• FOR ITEMS NOT LISTED ONLINE:
  Item:
  Where purchased or how obtained
  Comments:

BASIC PICTURES REQUIRED (but more may be requested): If necessary pictures are in the listing, it's not necessary to upload and duplicate them.

• Front of item
• Back of item
• Full clear and legible creed text and serial number
• Made in tags (when available)
• Measurements
• For bags with turnlock closures, show pictures of back of female side of turnlock
• For bags with magnetic snaps, show pictures of the male part of the snap so that the numbers and letters on it can be read
• If applicable, search interior of bag and/or pockets for small white tag with production information and include a picture of that.

Thank you and be safe!

 

[whateve]

Dear Authenticators,

Is this sought after Plaza bag the real deal, despite not including the shoulder strap? Thanks much for checking its authenticity.

Seller: heatgerickmla

Vintage PLAZA Coach Bag Large in Tan PUTTY Color Leather Purse United States | eBay

There are ink pen marks/scuffs/such, as pictured.

www.ebay.com

It's authentic. I doubt the color is putty.

 

[Fashionphile718]

After you'd posted last week about the Jean Michel Basquiat bag, I did a search and found one (that I can no longer locate) that was for a Basquiat bag with a creed describing the artwork of Keith Haring!

There are just so many fakes, especially from Japanese sellers, of the "themed collaboration" items. And because Japan used to have a good reputation as being a "safe" country from which to buy authentic items, the trickle-down is that many US buyers and resellers purchased from them to resell here.

Be VERY careful of when buying Disney, Peanuts, Nasa, Keith Haring, Jean Michel Basquiat, Rogues, Swaggers, Tea Rose and just about any other highly faked Coach items, especially from sellers in Japan.


ETA: I found the Basquiat item with the Haring creed. (But to the untrained eye, this is really easy to miss!)
Japanese seller: momen_jp (273

COACH JeanMichel Basquiat Collaboration Hand Bag Shoulder Bag Leather from Japan | eBay

Find many great new & used options and get the best deals for COACH JeanMichel Basquiat Collaboration Hand Bag Shoulder Bag Leather from Japan at the best online prices at eBay! Free shipping for many products!

www.ebay.com

View attachment 5585648

View attachment 5585649

View attachment 5585650

Thank you so much! I’ve learned so much in a couple of days from you guys! I’m done buying on eBay for now. I appreciate your time!

 

[Fashionphile718]

Please DON'T report items to Ebay as fake unless you're absolutely sure and have actually verified they're fake in this thread!

That is NOT what we encourage here. Filing false reports is against everything tPF stands for.

She's definitely a member one of the many "gangs" or multiple-ID Japanese sellers who often falsify their locations and share photos among them, but actually selling fakes must be proven because it's illegal as well as a violation of Ebay Rules. That's why we've been warning members for years against buying from sellers who are or who may be located in Japan especially when the same photos are being used by multiple sellers, including this one. We also discourage buying from sellers located in the Philippines because of the high percentage of fakes.

Here's an example - your seller " cynodo-93 " has this listing for a "Karlee Crossbody " with Snoopy. A Search of Ebay for that style number 4114 in both Current and Completed brings up more than a dozen listings, many of them from sellers in Japan or who MAY be in Japan but are showing false locations in the US, and many of them using the same photos, including at least one other with the same exact "white glove" photo of the creed patch. Notice that most of these "gang" photos don't even show a close-up of the creed. CHECK OTHER LISTINGS AND LOOK FOR THE SAME PHOTOS.

coach 4114 for sale | eBay

Get the best deals for coach 4114 at eBay.com. We have a great online selection at the lowest prices with Fast & Free shipping on many items!

www.ebay.com

Completed:

Coach 4114 in Clothing, Shoes & Accessories for sale | eBay

www.ebay.com

And don't ever buy a "Coach" bag if the seller doesn't show a clear readable and enlargeable photo of the creed patch and serial number if the bag is supposed to have one.

Duly noted. Thank you for your time

 

[Hyacinth]

Dear Authenticators,

Is this sought after Plaza bag the real deal, despite not including the shoulder strap? Thanks much for checking its authenticity.

Seller: heatgerickmla

Vintage PLAZA Coach Bag Large in Tan PUTTY Color Leather Purse United States | eBay

There are ink pen marks/scuffs/such, as pictured.

www.ebay.com

Genuine, and probably made in or around 1988 since I think that's the year when some of those 8-number serial numbers slipped through.

 

[Mellowmel]

Looks good.

Thank you so much
The bag measures approximately 10” wide, 6.5” tall and 2.75” deep. It looks like the bag in this stock picture that I found on pinterest

It's authentic. To ID bags with all numeric serial numbers, we need measurements. This is probably a camera bag #9760, most likely made in the 1980s.

Than you!
The bag measures approximately 10” wide, 6.5” tall and 2.75” deep. I believe it's the same as the bag I saw on this picture I found online

 

[whateve]

Thank you so much
The bag measures approximately 10” wide, 6.5” tall and 2.75” deep. It looks like the bag in this stock picture that I found on pinterest

Than you!
The bag measures approximately 10” wide, 6.5” tall and 2.75” deep. I believe it's the same as the bag I saw on this picture I found online

View attachment 5586047

Those measurements match the camera bag I thought it was.

 

[Tilis]

Thank you @Hyacinth !

 

[daimlerz]

It's authentic. I doubt the color is putty.

Thanks so much whateve. It does look more like British tan than putty.

 

[eefers]

Item: Vintage Whitney Crossbody (Probably fake?)

Where purchased or how obtained: Picked up at a thrift store in Chicago Sunday

Comments: Okay, one more from this newbie today. This is the one I am, like, 93% sure is fake but I want to be sure before I post it (transparently) in my Buy Nothing group. I can't fully read the serial number but I *think* it says 012-4554 — which a few people online have said is fake but there's so much contradictory info out there. Honestly, if it weren't for the cheap-looking black zipper on the inner pouch and the fact that the strap is drying a little differently than the rest of the bag, I don't know that I even would have questioned it or tried to bump up the contrast to see the serial number. BUT the inner zipper and pull are very similar to the inner pocket zipper of a 2004 bullseye stamped Willis I have, so I'm questioning myself here.

NOTE: This bag looks darker than it usually is because it was about 18 hours post-bath when I took these pictures.

Thank you!!

 

[BeenBurned]

Item: Vintage Whitney Crossbody (Probably fake?)

Where purchased or how obtained: Picked up at a thrift store in Chicago Sunday

Comments: Okay, one more from this newbie today. This is the one I am, like, 93% sure is fake but I want to be sure before I post it (transparently) in my Buy Nothing group. I can't fully read the serial number but I *think* it says 012-4554 — which a few people online have said is fake but there's so much contradictory info out there. Honestly, if it weren't for the cheap-looking black zipper on the inner pouch and the fact that the strap is drying a little differently than the rest of the bag, I don't know that I even would have questioned it or tried to bump up the contrast to see the serial number. BUT the inner zipper and pull are very similar to the inner pocket zipper of a 2004 bullseye stamped Willis I have, so I'm questioning myself here.

NOTE: This bag looks darker than it usually is because it was about 18 hours post-bath when I took these pictures.

Thank you!!
View attachment 5586069View attachment 5586070View attachment 5586071View attachment 5586072View attachment 5586073View attachment 5586074View attachment 5586075View attachment 5586076View attachment 5586077View attachment 5586078View attachment 5586079View attachment 5586080

It's fake. (The always invalid serial number is 012-3445 and is one commonly seen on fakes.)

Personally, I'll speak for myself but others probably feel similarly. As someone who is passionate against the sale and circulation of fakes, I'd prefer that it not be posted on any "Buy Nothing group" because eventually, someone will end up with a bag they think is genuine, may try to sell it and will risk their reputation and ebay (or other online) account.

Since you purchased it and presumably paid for it, my recommendation would be to go back to the store, let them know that despite what they may believe about the sale of fakes, the fact is that it was illegal for them to sell it to you and demand either a refund or credit toward something else.

JMHO.

 

[Hyacinth]

Item: Vintage Whitney Crossbody (Probably fake?)

Where purchased or how obtained: Picked up at a thrift store in Chicago Sunday

Comments: Okay, one more from this newbie today. This is the one I am, like, 93% sure is fake but I want to be sure before I post it (transparently) in my Buy Nothing group. I can't fully read the serial number but I *think* it says 012-4554 — which a few people online have said is fake but there's so much contradictory info out there. Honestly, if it weren't for the cheap-looking black zipper on the inner pouch and the fact that the strap is drying a little differently than the rest of the bag, I don't know that I even would have questioned it or tried to bump up the contrast to see the serial number. BUT the inner zipper and pull are very similar to the inner pocket zipper of a 2004 bullseye stamped Willis I have, so I'm questioning myself here.

NOTE: This bag looks darker than it usually is because it was about 18 hours post-bath when I took these pictures.

Thank you!!
View attachment 5586069View attachment 5586070View attachment 5586071View attachment 5586072View attachment 5586073View attachment 5586074View attachment 5586075View attachment 5586076View attachment 5586077View attachment 5586078View attachment 5586079View attachment 5586080

The number is actually 012-3445 which is a known and always fake number, the font used in stamping the number is also much too thick. Here's the post from the Daria48 Fake Coach Numbers List:

SaleArea guides

@Hyacinth I was just reading your excellent Italian coach guide above and I have a question. I am currently rehabbing a Gramercy Top Handle 7002 bag from 1999 (that you graciously authenticated for me) see below for one of the auction pictures. I am trying to figure out the color name for this...

forum.purseblog.com

The creed has the usual spelling mistake "scrtches" common with that fake number, the inside pocket zipper isn't long enough, the round metal pull on the top zipper is a known and always fake style when it's on a vintage bag AND the top zipper is a very cheap substitute for a high-quality zipper like Coach used, the strap is a cheap replacement and doesn't match the bag, and the hangtag is the wrong shape. Those are just the obvious problems. But the known fake serial number and creed misspellings (there may be one other misspelling but the creed is too worn down to see it) are the real and indisputable proofs of a fake "Coach".

The inclusion of fake serial number 012-3445 on the Daria48 Fake Coach Numbers list goes back to at least 2007, as evidenced in this old post here at tPF:

answers to AUTHENTICITY questions!!!

Thanks kallison! As a newbie, it's hard to glean these little bits from so many different places. Hopefully it will soon be accessible to everyone!

forum.purseblog.com

Insist on a full refund.

 

[eefers]

It's fake. (The always invalid serial number is 012-3445 and is one commonly seen on fakes.)

Personally, I'll speak for myself but others probably feel similarly. As someone who is passionate against the sale and circulation of fakes, I'd prefer that it not be posted on any "Buy Nothing group" because eventually, someone will end up with a bag they think is genuine, may try to sell it and will risk their reputation and ebay (or other online) account.

Since you purchased it and presumably paid for it, my recommendation would be to go back to the store, let them know that despite what they may believe about the sale of fakes, the fact is that it was illegal for them to sell it to you and demand either a refund or credit toward something else.

JMHO.

Thank you! I was in Chicago for the weekend (a weekend that turned me into a vintage Coach hunter) and I live in Kansas City so I won't be going back to the thrift store where I bought it any time soon. It wasn't marketed as a Coach; I just pulled it from a rack of many, many, many bags that probably came in with a huge pile of donations and I was just going in with no knowledge of how to spot a fake (now I know!). Maybe I'll do something to "damage" the label to make it clear it's not authentic before I pass it on. Thanks!

 

[Hyacinth]

Thank you! I was in Chicago for the weekend (a weekend that turned me into a vintage Coach hunter) and I live in Kansas City so I won't be going back to the thrift store where I bought it any time soon. It wasn't marketed as a Coach; I just pulled it from a rack of many, many, many bags that probably came in with a huge pile of donations and I was just going in with no knowledge of how to spot a fake (now I know!). Maybe I'll do something to "damage" the label to make it clear it's not authentic before I pass it on. Thanks!

It's illegal and a felony to sell or trade any merchandise that bears a counterfeit trademark, the only way to legally "pass it on" through a sale or donation is by permanently and completely removing any and all Coach logos, stamps, etc, so if the creed is stamped on the inside pocket, that pocket or at the very least the entire stamped creed actually has to be removed. If any of the hardware has a fake Coach stamp, that also has to be removed, as does that fake hangtag.

 

[drexel666]

Item: Klare Crossbody With Daisy Embroidery
Listing number: -
Link: https://shopee.co.id/-READY-COACH-K...03&xptdk=dd81261f-e14e-4e54-b582-9b4385ca2703
Comments: Hello I'm new here. I've been eyeing this daisy purse for some time and couldn't find it on COACH web because it is sold out. And now someone on Shoppe sells it at a crazy price (around $65). Is it authentic? It looks shady tho'. Wish someone could help, thanks in advance.

 

[VintageEnthusiast]

Dear Authenticators,

I have a “navy” Legacy Small Flap which I am very suspicious of and would like your opinion. I want to list it for sale but the more I look at it, the more doubtful I become. The color is not a really dark navy, some of the hardware looks a bit wrong - for example the Legacy buckles are stamped “solid brass” - and it feels wrong. The measurements are approximately 8” x 7” x 4”. I think the font of the serial number may also be suspect. Here are some photo - let me know if you need additional ones.