answers to AUTHENTICITY questions!!!
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i thought we expressed our interest in having you and aarti as mods.....maybe megs, vlad, and the other mods got busy.
Dont forget the gold bags for the higher end items. The coach python tote from 2 years ago came in a gold bag as did the matching shoes.
this needs to stay at the top, not be commented on and be the FANTASTIC reference that it is without any hub-bub to interfere with it.
great job girlie! i love it!
great job girlie! i love it!
Just a quick addition to this, if it's ok:
"Second, as a generality, all-leather bags are not faked. They just are not cost efficient for the fakers. And you can usually tell real leather and the fake stuff when it’s on the entire bag (as opposed to trims, etc)."
Many of the older leather bags were faked. Counterfeit leather bags made before Coach switched production to China are often found on Ebay. They almost always will have incorrect or even nonexistant serial numbers, incorrect hardware, thin flimsy straps and misspellings or other mistakes in the creed stamp. The counterfeiters tended to use the same serial numbers over and over and there's a post at Ebay's Shoes Purses and Accessories forum that lists the most common fake numbers.
Some fakes were surprisingly well-made and most of those came from Korea, but ANY bag marked Made In Korea is fake.
Here's where to find the post:
eBay Forums: Fake Coach items, serial number NT-4903 ...
and here's a copy of Daria48's list - remember, always check the serial number! If you're interested in an older bag just post the auction number or link on the Authenticate This thread and I'll be glad to take a look at it.
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"Here are the most common ones so far on the older bags, and some of these numbers are appearing on fake Signature bags too:
NT-4903
NT-4908
TN-9085
7H-7456
NT-4115
TN-9096
TN-9951
4C-9911
40-8624
TN-4186
NT-4157
TN-4136
ANY Coach bag with only two letters or one number and one letter to the left of the hyphen can be assumed to be fake.
501-20 + all similar numbers starting with 101-, 202-, 501-, 701-, etc., followed by 2 or 3 numbers after the dash and usually with a patch that says "made in Korea".
Coach never made bags in Korea and never used serial numbers with only 5 or 6 digits like this:
"xxx-xx" or "xxx-xxx" and without the abbreviated "No." in front of the numbers
H4B-0516
H4B-0678
H4B-0517
H4B-0520
H4B-0532
Probably ANY serial number beginning with H4B is fake except for a Scooter Bag H4B-9893
012-3445
A2G-6094
M4N-4154
Anything starting with M4N is suspect.
There is at least a 95 percent chance that bags with this number are fake:
308-9875
There are some ending in -9927 but aren't Willis Bags
And the counterfeiters are using many legitimate-looking serial numbers but on the wrong style bags.
Check EVERY bag that you buy or sell carefully! Double-check the serial number against others listed for sale. And report the fakes to Ebay."
"Second, as a generality, all-leather bags are not faked. They just are not cost efficient for the fakers. And you can usually tell real leather and the fake stuff when it’s on the entire bag (as opposed to trims, etc)."
Many of the older leather bags were faked. Counterfeit leather bags made before Coach switched production to China are often found on Ebay. They almost always will have incorrect or even nonexistant serial numbers, incorrect hardware, thin flimsy straps and misspellings or other mistakes in the creed stamp. The counterfeiters tended to use the same serial numbers over and over and there's a post at Ebay's Shoes Purses and Accessories forum that lists the most common fake numbers.
Some fakes were surprisingly well-made and most of those came from Korea, but ANY bag marked Made In Korea is fake.
Here's where to find the post:
eBay Forums: Fake Coach items, serial number NT-4903 ...
and here's a copy of Daria48's list - remember, always check the serial number! If you're interested in an older bag just post the auction number or link on the Authenticate This thread and I'll be glad to take a look at it.
..............
"Here are the most common ones so far on the older bags, and some of these numbers are appearing on fake Signature bags too:
NT-4903
NT-4908
TN-9085
7H-7456
NT-4115
TN-9096
TN-9951
4C-9911
40-8624
TN-4186
NT-4157
TN-4136
ANY Coach bag with only two letters or one number and one letter to the left of the hyphen can be assumed to be fake.
501-20 + all similar numbers starting with 101-, 202-, 501-, 701-, etc., followed by 2 or 3 numbers after the dash and usually with a patch that says "made in Korea".
Coach never made bags in Korea and never used serial numbers with only 5 or 6 digits like this:
"xxx-xx" or "xxx-xxx" and without the abbreviated "No." in front of the numbers
H4B-0516
H4B-0678
H4B-0517
H4B-0520
H4B-0532
Probably ANY serial number beginning with H4B is fake except for a Scooter Bag H4B-9893
012-3445
A2G-6094
M4N-4154
Anything starting with M4N is suspect.
There is at least a 95 percent chance that bags with this number are fake:
308-9875
There are some ending in -9927 but aren't Willis Bags
And the counterfeiters are using many legitimate-looking serial numbers but on the wrong style bags.
Check EVERY bag that you buy or sell carefully! Double-check the serial number against others listed for sale. And report the fakes to Ebay."
a couple more things I always see that screams fake!
1. handles wrapped in plastic, Coach never does this!
2. Patchwork only on one side of the bag with either solid or signature on the other. All Coach Patchworks are consistent on both sides (the bottom and sides may be solid, but both sides are the same
Hope this helps someone, I hate fakes!!! I saw some poor buyer win a horrible fake patchwork on ebay for $380 the other day, I reported it twice to ebay, but nothing happened.
1. handles wrapped in plastic, Coach never does this!
2. Patchwork only on one side of the bag with either solid or signature on the other. All Coach Patchworks are consistent on both sides (the bottom and sides may be solid, but both sides are the same
Hope this helps someone, I hate fakes!!! I saw some poor buyer win a horrible fake patchwork on ebay for $380 the other day, I reported it twice to ebay, but nothing happened.