Authenticate This COACH - **see first post for format**

[Vlad]

IMPORTANT READ-ME

Please post authenticity questions related to COACH in this thread. No PMs please.
For further information, please refer to the first post on page 1 of this thread.

Please follow the following requests:

• Before you submit a request for authentication, please search this thread to make sure that the item has not previously been authenticated by searching the seller ID and/or item number. This is not a thread to ask general questions about COACH, please refer to our main Coach forum for such information.
• Note that authenticators have the right to refuse any requests. This is a free service, but it is imperative that you help our authenticators by using the following format:
• FOR ITEMS LISTED ONLINE:
  Item:
  Listing number:
  Seller and site where listed
  Link:
  Comments:
  
  
• FOR ITEMS NOT LISTED ONLINE:
  Item:
  Where purchased or how obtained
  Comments:

BASIC PICTURES REQUIRED (but more may be requested): If necessary pictures are in the listing, it's not necessary to upload and duplicate them.

• Front of item
• Back of item
• Full clear and legible creed text and serial number
• Made in tags (when available)
• Measurements
• For bags with turnlock closures, show pictures of back of female side of turnlock
• For bags with magnetic snaps, show pictures of the male part of the snap so that the numbers and letters on it can be read
• If applicable, search interior of bag and/or pockets for small white tag with production information and include a picture of that.

Thank you and be safe!

 

[Allisonclark]

Hello! I purchased a wholesale box and received this Coach bag. I definitely am not interested in selling fakes, but I was never a Coach enthusiasts so my knowledge is desperately lacking. I've tried to image search this but the only matches have slight differences from this so hoping someone can help. Thanks in advance!!

 

[JuneCleaverSemperFi]

Would you please authenticate this bag I purchased from a consignment sale? It's the first fake I purchased in awhile and I am trying to show the seller. About 8" x 6" Thank you.

 

[Hyacinth]

Would you please authenticate this bag I purchased from a consignment sale? It's the first fake I purchased in awhile and I am trying to show the seller. About 8" x 6" Thank you.

It's a very bad fake. The MAJOR red flag is that the serial number's font is totally wrong for any bag made in the "D" Coach plant in 1997, the serial number in the fake claims it was made in January (code A) 1997 (code 7) in Coach's "D" plant (code D). Here's the fake in question:




THIS is a creed and serial from a GENUINE Coach with a slightly different style number from January 1997 and made in the D plant, the most damning mistake is the too-long length of the underscore in the "No" abbreviation.


and here's another GENUINE creed and serial from a month later, "B" indicates made in February. Same style number as yours, same underscore and number 1 details as other genuine D plant serials. Coach issues each main plant their own creed and serial number stamps, and to an experienced authenticator they're almost as unique to each plant as fingerprints are to humans. They're the most accurate way I know of to spot a fake Coach or to authenticate a genuine one. BTW, the variety of small lines and dots above and below the digits in the genuine serial numbers are another STRONG indication that the bag is genuine when and only when they're exactly what a highly qualified authenticator knows they should be, which these are.




and here's ANOTHER fake that's a twin to the fake in question with exactly the same fake serial number that was already in my files, same incorrect underscore, same incorrect number "1" with the missing horizontal bar on the base - that horizontal bar on the "1" is on the genuine number in the serial numbers from the D plant, but NOT on these fakes.




One other point - the binding or piping wrapping around the base of the fake is too thick.

 

[momoyb]

I am not looking at buying this one, I want to confirm it's a fake:

Vintage Coach Black Leather Crossbody Bag W/ Flap No. L4C-5130
Etsy
@UrVintageStory

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Find the perfect handmade gift, vintage & on-trend clothes, unique jewelry, and more… lots more.

www.etsy.com

 

[Hyacinth]

I am not looking at buying this one, I want to confirm it's a fake:

Vintage Coach Black Leather Crossbody Bag W/ Flap No. L4C-5130
Etsy
@UrVintageStory

This item is unavailable - Etsy

Find the perfect handmade gift, vintage & on-trend clothes, unique jewelry, and more… lots more.

www.etsy.com

Confirmed. Wrong font for anything from the C plant in November 1994. The hangtag is also an obvious fake but more important is the fake NON-Coach turnlock with indentations on the back.

 

[JuneCleaverSemperFi]

It's a very bad fake. The MAJOR red flag is that the serial number's font is totally wrong for any bag made in the "D" Coach plant in 1997, the serial number in the fake claims it was made in January (code A) 1997 (code 7) in Coach's "D" plant (code D). Here's the fake in question:
View attachment 5421508



THIS is a creed and serial from a GENUINE Coach with a slightly different style number from January 1997 and made in the D plant, the most damning mistake is the too-long length of the underscore in the "No" abbreviation.
View attachment 5421452

and here's another GENUINE creed and serial from a month later, "B" indicates made in February. Same style number as yours, same underscore and number 1 details as other genuine D plant serials. Coach issues each main plant their own creed and serial number stamps, and to an experienced authenticator they're almost as unique to each plant as fingerprints are to humans. They're the most accurate way I know of to spot a fake Coach or to authenticate a genuine one. BTW, the variety of small lines and dots above and below the digits in the genuine serial numbers are another STRONG indication that the bag is genuine when and only when they're exactly what a highly qualified authenticator knows they should be, which these are.
View attachment 5421465



and here's ANOTHER fake that's a twin to the fake in question with exactly the same fake serial number that was already in my files, same incorrect underscore, same incorrect number "1" with the missing horizontal bar on the base - that horizontal bar on the "1" is on the genuine number in the serial numbers from the D plant, but NOT on these fakes.
View attachment 5421468



One other point - the binding or piping wrapping around the base of the fake is too thick.

Thank you very much for breaking that down. The seller did not believe it was fake. I share the link with the Purse Forum to everyone I meet regarding vintage Coach bags. The more people who authenticate before selling out there, the better it is for everyone.

 

[ChrisV]

Hello Authenticators! I want to thank you all for helping me NOT purchase any fakes thus far. I have had a few good ones get past me because I acted too slowly, but no fakes have been bought and you continue to teach everyone through this platform. I try to read some of the other posts to help me get a better understanding of what to look for and what to avoid. Thank you so much!

Can you assist with authenticating this one:
Item: Coach 9790 City Bag Shoulder Crossbody Light Brown Leather w/ Brass Hardware
Listing number: 314029085570
Seller and site where listed: soudertoncareandshare, Ebay
Link: https://www.ebay.com/itm/314029085570?hash=item491d979382:g:ly0AAOSwP21ioO7D

Thank you in advance for your diligent work!
C

 

[momoyb]

Confirmed. Wrong font for anything from the C plant in November 1994. The hangtag is also an obvious fake but more important is the fake NON-Coach turnlock with indentations on the back.

Alrighty, off to add it to THOS. Thank you!

 

[ChrisV]

Alrighty, off to add it to THOS. Thank you!

They just took it down. I saw it one minute, then it was gone!

 

[Hyacinth]

Hello! I purchased a wholesale box and received this Coach bag. I definitely am not interested in selling fakes, but I was never a Coach enthusiasts so my knowledge is desperately lacking. I've tried to image search this but the only matches have slight differences from this so hoping someone can help. Thanks in advance!! View attachment 5421349View attachment 5421343View attachment 5421344View attachment 5421345View attachment 5421346View attachment 5421347View attachment 5421348View attachment 5421349View attachment 5421350

This is a weird one. It has a serial prefix for the A plant usually found in samples, Soho hardware with a Sonoma lining, a style number that I'm seeing as 9942 not in my records, and an unusually wrinkled strap and magnetic tab. It's also a style I've never seen before, but I've seen a similar type of mag snap before and a similar kind of long top strap.

Right now I'm thinking that it's a genuine sample or pilot bag but I want to do more digging. I DON'T recommend trying to sell it without actual confirmation.

 

[Hyacinth]

They just took it down. I saw it one minute, then it was gone!

Hurrraaaaayyy! One for our side!

 

[Hyacinth]

Hello Authenticators! I want to thank you all for helping me NOT purchase any fakes thus far. I have had a few good ones get past me because I acted too slowly, but no fakes have been bought and you continue to teach everyone through this platform. I try to read some of the other posts to help me get a better understanding of what to look for and what to avoid. Thank you so much!

Can you assist with authenticating this one:
Item: Coach 9790 City Bag Shoulder Crossbody Light Brown Leather w/ Brass Hardware
Listing number: 314029085570
Seller and site where listed: soudertoncareandshare, Ebay
Link: https://www.ebay.com/itm/314029085570?hash=item491d979382:g:ly0AAOSwP21ioO7D

Thank you in advance for your diligent work!
C

Genuine, from 1996

 

[Hyacinth]

Hello! I purchased a wholesale box and received this Coach bag. I definitely am not interested in selling fakes, but I was never a Coach enthusiasts so my knowledge is desperately lacking. I've tried to image search this but the only matches have slight differences from this so hoping someone can help. Thanks in advance!! View attachment 5421349View attachment 5421343View attachment 5421344View attachment 5421345View attachment 5421346View attachment 5421347View attachment 5421348View attachment 5421349View attachment 5421350

This is a weird one. It has a serial prefix for the A plant usually found in samples, Soho hardware with a Sonoma lining, a style number that I'm seeing as 9942 not in my records, and an unusually wrinkled strap and magnetic tab. It's also a style I've never seen before, but I've seen a similar type of mag snap before and a similar kind of long top strap.

Right now I'm thinking that it's a genuine sample or pilot bag but I want to do more digging. I DON'T recommend trying to sell it without actual confirmation.

There's still nothing on it that I can find. A few details make me sure it was at least made with Coach parts, but probably as a sample. Samples can't be authenticated since there's no record of the style in Coach's online or catalog records so we strongly suggest that they never be sold since they can't be authenticated. Just use it and enjoy it.

 

[JJK250]

"This is a good leather bag". Well then, if they say so. The comments on this Korean bag are amusing.

Coach Leather Drawstring Bucket Bag

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[Hyacinth]

Hi, I’m trying to learn and am wondering if someone could clarify why this was identified as a “dinky”
Rather than a “pocket purse”. I thought the dinky had a zipper inside or something different- maybe it was the strap on the dinky that is sewn on rather than removable. Not sure. TIA

There are quite a few small differences aside from the strap attachments. here are their respective catalog pages from about 30 years ago, the Pocket Purse also has more pockets, surprise surprise!:

DINKY 9375



POCKET PURSE 9755