Authenticate This COACH - **see first post for format**

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IMPORTANT READ-ME

Please post authenticity questions related to COACH in this thread. No PMs please.
For further information, please refer to the first post on page 1 of this thread.

Please follow the following requests:
  • Before you submit a request for authentication, please search this thread to make sure that the item has not previously been authenticated by searching the seller ID and/or item number. This is not a thread to ask general questions about COACH, please refer to our main Coach forum for such information.
  • Note that authenticators have the right to refuse any requests. This is a free service, but it is imperative that you help our authenticators by using the following format:
  • FOR ITEMS LISTED ONLINE:
    Item:
    Listing number:
    Seller and site where listed
    Link:
    Comments:

  • FOR ITEMS NOT LISTED ONLINE:
    Item:
    Where purchased or how obtained
    Comments:
BASIC PICTURES REQUIRED (but more may be requested): If necessary pictures are in the listing, it's not necessary to upload and duplicate them.
  • Front of item
  • Back of item
  • Full clear and legible creed text and serial number
  • Made in tags (when available)
  • Measurements
  • For bags with turnlock closures, show pictures of back of female side of turnlock
  • For bags with magnetic snaps, show pictures of the male part of the snap so that the numbers and letters on it can be read
  • If applicable, search interior of bag and/or pockets for small white tag with production information and include a picture of that.
Thank you and be safe!
 
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#72,076
ima85 said:
Hi, thank you for the response. I’m super bummed about the brown leather crossbody being a fake. Especially bc I’ve already paid for it so now I’ll just have to dispute it with my credit card company, most likely. Can you tell me anything that stood out and let you know it was fake? Was it the number? I should have checked before purchasing so that’s totally on me. :sad:

Also, for the crossbody listing on FB marketplace, this was the picture provided:
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It looks fine.
 
#72,078
ima85 said:
And, I know better than to buy before authenticating...but there are these two shopgoodwill bags that were purchased on a whim:

Item: Coach Station Chestnut Brown Leather Crossbody Bag Purse
Listing number: 142245713
Seller and site where listed: Goodwill Industries of Delaware & Delaware County, Inc., Shopgoodwill.com
Link: https://shopgoodwill.com/item/142245713
Comment: Number D2J 5130
Fake
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BeenBurned said:
see above in red.
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ima85 said:
Hi, thank you for the response. I’m super bummed about the brown leather crossbody being a fake. Especially bc I’ve already paid for it so now I’ll just have to dispute it with my credit card company, most likely. Can you tell me anything that stood out and let you know it was fake? Was it the number? I should have checked before purchasing so that’s totally on me. :sad:
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Yes, there are problems with the creed, stamping and font. But the most obvious is that the text contradicts the serial number/plant code. Creed states that it's US made but the J plant didn't make bags in the US. J is a Chinese plant for bags.
 
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Item: Coach Vintage Rambler Crossbody Shoulder Bag Satchel Handbag 9061

Listing number: 224929714050

Seller and site where listed: all*sortz*of*stuff
eBay
Link:https://www.ebay.com/itm/2249297140...i35gBopSCK&var=&widget_ver=artemis&media=COPY

Comments: please authenticate and provide year of production - 2000? I didn’t catch that it was made in China so I’m not sure it’s old enough vintage. I’m the purchaser. I’ve got to start skipping the ones I find close to the auction ending… :facepalm:
 
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#72,081
Freak4Coach said:
Item: Coach Vintage Rambler Crossbody Shoulder Bag Satchel Handbag 9061

Listing number: 224929714050

Seller and site where listed: all*sortz*of*stuff
eBay
Link:https://www.ebay.com/itm/2249297140...i35gBopSCK&var=&widget_ver=artemis&media=COPY

Comments: please authenticate and provide year of production - 2000? I didn’t catch that it was made in China so I’m not sure it’s old enough vintage. I’m the purchaser. I’ve got to start skipping the ones I find close to the auction ending… :facepalm:
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It's authentic but not vintage until 2025.
 
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Freak4Coach said:
I was afraid of that. Can you give me the link to the thread that breaks down the serial number formats, please? I tried to find it and couldn’t. Thank you!
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The Salearea guides are full of information. There's info about how to read creeds and serial numbers.

SaleArea guides

Now that ebay is removing the guides they've been hosting for years, those who use those guides have been forced to either save them on their computers or print them. Tonight I found that the Salearea guides (including the Hyacinth/Salearea collaboration ones) have been saved to Salearea's...
forum.purseblog.com forum.purseblog.com

ETA: Read this post:
 
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BeenBurned said:
The Salearea guides are full of information. There's info about how to read creeds and serial numbers.

SaleArea guides

Now that ebay is removing the guides they've been hosting for years, those who use those guides have been forced to either save them on their computers or print them. Tonight I found that the Salearea guides (including the Hyacinth/Salearea collaboration ones) have been saved to Salearea's...
forum.purseblog.com forum.purseblog.com
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Thank you BeenBurned!
 
#72,085
Freak4Coach said:
Item: Coach Vintage Rambler Crossbody Shoulder Bag Satchel Handbag 9061

Listing number: 224929714050

Seller and site where listed: all*sortz*of*stuff
eBay
Link:https://www.ebay.com/itm/2249297140...i35gBopSCK&var=&widget_ver=artemis&media=COPY

Comments: please authenticate and provide year of production - 2000? I didn’t catch that it was made in China so I’m not sure it’s old enough vintage. I’m the purchaser. I’ve got to start skipping the ones I find close to the auction ending… :facepalm:
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The style 9061 is actually called a Rambler's LEGACY. "Rambler" or "Rambler Bag" is a different and older style, 9735.

From an August 2004 Wayback Machine scan of Coach's website:

9061_Ramblers Legacy_Aug 2004-Wayback-a.jpg
 
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#72,089
Hoku44 said:
May I please have an authentication? Thank you very much!

EDIT -
Item: #9530 Small Shoulder bag NOT the
small Legacy Trail bag Early version of 9965, correct?
Seller: ndnm189719
Site: eBay
Link: https://www.ebay.com/itm/324476316909
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Your question isn't really answerable because you're starting off with incorrect information. We can't say this too often - don't ever depend on sellers to get the names or histories of the items they're selling correct. Mistakes are passed down on the internet through years or even decades because once, long ago, someone got lazy and posted incorrect information and hundreds of sheep took a short cut and kept copying their mistake.

The "Trail Bag" identification as style 9965 is a perfect example, and we've talked about it here many times including the name confusion. 9965 is NOT a Trail Bag, it's a Legacy Small Flap. From a 1997 catalog:
9965_Legacy Small Flap-holiday97 cat.jpg


THIS is a Trail Bag, style 9955, from a 1995 catalog, click on the thumbnail to enlarge:
9955_Trail Bag-1995-LG.jpg


I've never heard of a Legacy Trail Bag, there's no such animal in my files.

As for the bag you're asking about, it's authentic and made probably in the early to middle 1980s but it's a bit harder to pin down. It's probably a style 9530, the measurements are right. It was called a "Shoulder Bag With Turnlock" in the Summer 1986 catalog and a "Small Shoulder Bag" in a 1983 catalog, so you get to pick the name you want to call it.

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1983:
9530_Small Shoulder Bag-1983.jpg

1986:
9530_Sm Shoulder Bag with Turnlock-summer1986.jpg
 
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Hyacinth said:
Your question isn't really answerable because you're starting off with incorrect information. We can't say this too often - don't ever depend on sellers to get the names or histories of the items they're selling correct. Mistakes are passed down on the internet through years or even decades because once, long ago, someone got lazy and posted incorrect information and hundreds of sheep took a short cut and kept copying their mistake.

The "Trail Bag" identification as style 9965 is a perfect example, and we've talked about it here many times including the name confusion. 9965 is NOT a Trail Bag, it's a Legacy Small Flap. From a 1997 catalog:
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THIS is a Trail Bag, style 9955, from a 1995 catalog, click on the thumbnail to enlarge:
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I've never heard of a Legacy Trail Bag, there's no such animal in my files.

As for the bag you're asking about, it's authentic and made probably in the early to middle 1980s but it's a bit harder to pin down. It's probably a style 9530, the measurements are right. It was called a "Shoulder Bag With Turnlock" in the Summer 1986 catalog and a "Small Shoulder Bag" in a 1983 catalog, so you get to pick the name you want to call it.

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1983:
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1986:
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Hyacinth, thank you very much for the clarifications and help. I will never confuse 'Trail bag' with 'Legacy Flap' again. Your knowledge and guidance is greatly appreciated. And the authentication is, of course, appreciated too!
 
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