Authenticate This COACH - **see first post for format**

[Vlad]

IMPORTANT READ-ME

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For further information, please refer to the first post on page 1 of this thread.

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BASIC PICTURES REQUIRED (but more may be requested): If necessary pictures are in the listing, it's not necessary to upload and duplicate them.

• Front of item
• Back of item
• Full clear and legible creed text and serial number
• Made in tags (when available)
• Measurements
• For bags with turnlock closures, show pictures of back of female side of turnlock
• For bags with magnetic snaps, show pictures of the male part of the snap so that the numbers and letters on it can be read
• If applicable, search interior of bag and/or pockets for small white tag with production information and include a picture of that.

Thank you and be safe!

 

[sallellen]

Yes, the style number was 9890

Thanks so much!

 

[Hyacinth]

I know this isn't the right forum, but I was on the Wayback Machine the other day in 2002 and saw these really cute bags called Girlie Paisley. I've never ever seen one for sale on eBay or anywhere else for that matter. Are they really rare?

There was a large line of Girlie Bags in almost every possible fabric, leather and pattern available mostly in 2000-2001. Style numbers for the original line began with 8114 and continued with a few exceptions through 8176, then from 8307 to around 8319. You might be talking about the Girlie Paisley Perfed Hobo, 8145. They show up on Ebay once in a while and all have the same basic styling so they're easy to spot. Considering how many different styles were made and how few you see on Ebay I'd say they're fairly unusual.

There are six listed on Ebay right now but none of them are Paisley.
http://www.ebay.com/sch/Womens-Hand...0452&_sop=1&_dmd=1&_ipg=100&_nkw=coach+girlie

Here are a few of the Fall 2001 styles

 

[BeenBurned]

Please authenticate:

1) Coach Blue Leather Messenger Purse
22197022
Goodwill of North Florida
http://www.shopgoodwill.com/auctions/Coach-Blue-Leather-Messenger-Purse-22197022.html

My comment is on the integrity (or lack thereof) of Goodwill of North Florida.

It appears that the seller purposely photoshopped the serial number from the picture of the creed. Additionally, it appears to me that the end of the dowel is black painted wood and not wood-covered leather as it should be

IMO, a seller who disguises the important details on an item where they clearly know what pictures are necessary for authenticating isn't one I recommend.

1- The first one has NO serial number and I can't see even a hint of a stamp to show it ever had one. The leather part of the turnlock tab isn't right either. Not only can't we authenticate this style without a serial number but the lack of a number in this case makes it 99.9 percent sure that it's fake

Thank you Hyacinth!

I can't believe that I didn't even notice that there was no serial number on the first bag! Thank goodness for this forum.

I stand by my comment on the first bag. That bag isn't missing a serial number. The bag HAS a serial number and the seller, Goodwill of North Florida photoshopped it out. (My guess is that it has a known invalid s/n and the seller is attempting to hide the fact.) I think the seller is purposely being deceptive.

If you look closely at the enlarged picture of the serial number portion of the creed, you can see that the texture of that part of the bag is different than the rest of the area under the creed.



Here's the creed:

And to show how sneaky the seller is and how discreet it is, I've attached a side-by-side of the Goodwill creed and another of the same creed in which I photoshopped out the part of the creed where it says "this is a coach bag."

 

[fuzzymummy]

There was a large line of Girlie Bags in almost every possible fabric, leather and pattern available mostly in 2000-2001. Style numbers for the original line began with 8114 and continued with a few exceptions through 8176, then from 8307 to around 8319. You might be talking about the Girlie Paisley Perfed Hobo, 8145. They show up on Ebay once in a while and all have the same basic styling so they're easy to spot. Considering how many different styles were made and how few you see on Ebay I'd say they're fairly unusual.

There are six listed on Ebay right now but none of them are Paisley.
http://www.ebay.com/sch/Womens-Hand...0452&_sop=1&_dmd=1&_ipg=100&_nkw=coach+girlie

Here are a few of the Fall 2001 styles

That's them! The paisley ones are very pretty and an unusual print for Coach. I will keep my eyes peeled.

 

[LadyEdwards]

Both look genuine. The color of the first one might be Putty. Repairs aren't my area, please wait for Whateve or another of our Rehab and Rescue ladies to take a look.
ETA - the second "repair" the seller mentions isn't damage, it's the way all those straps were made. "another spot (factory, I believe) where there is a seam in the edge trim of the strap. (see last photo)." If a buyer wants to reinforce that it's their decision. But it's already lasted almost 30 years without it.

Thank you!

 

[LadyEdwards]

Hello Ladies,

Please authenticate these items:

Item: NWT Coach Small Leather Coach Dark Brown E8E-6701 Made In Italy
Listing #: 251996861396
Seller: north_pole
Link: http://www.ebay.com/itm/251996861396?_trksid=p2055119.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK:MEBIDX:IT
Comment: What is the name of this item?

Item: COACH Vintage Brown Leather Rare 1970's NYC Shoulder Bag No.294-9618
Listing #: 321778658536
Seller: boomers3
Link: http://www.ebay.com/itm/321778658636?_trksid=p2055119.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK:MEBIDX:IT
Comment: What is the name of this item?

Item: AUTH COACH Black Leather Madison Gracie Crossbody Handbag
Listing #: 381291539552
Seller: linda*s***stuff
Link: http://www.ebay.com/itm/AUTH-COACH-...c&pid=100005&rk=2&rkt=6&sd=271890957973&rt=nc

Thanks again!

 

[Hyacinth]

Hello Ladies,

Please authenticate these items:

Item: NWT Coach Small Leather Coach Dark Brown E8E-6701 Made In Italy
Listing #: 251996861396
Seller: north_pole
Link: http://www.ebay.com/itm/251996861396?_trksid=p2055119.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK:MEBIDX:IT
Comment: What is the name of this item?

Item: COACH Vintage Brown Leather Rare 1970's NYC Shoulder Bag No.294-9618
Listing #: 321778658536
Seller: boomers3
Link: http://www.ebay.com/itm/321778658636?_trksid=p2055119.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK:MEBIDX:IT
Comment: What is the name of this item?

Item: AUTH COACH Black Leather Madison Gracie Crossbody Handbag
Listing #: 381291539552
Seller: linda*s***stuff
Link: http://www.ebay.com/itm/AUTH-COACH-...c&pid=100005&rk=2&rkt=6&sd=271890957973&rt=nc

Thanks again!

1- It's a genuine Bridle Top Handle

2- genuine Stewardess Bag, early to mid-1980s

3- genuine

 

[ROCKY CRYSTAL]

Please remember, we can only comment on authenticity in this forum. Comments on price or condition aren't allowed according the the rules in post number 1, so unless we see something the buyer may not have spotted or understood and needs to be warned about (like a drastically shortened strap) it's up to the buyer to decide if the condition of the item is acceptable.

Sorry Hyacinth, I didn't know I spoke out of turn:shame:
I will be more careful.
RC

 

[Hyacinth]

Sorry Hyacinth, I didn't know I spoke out of turn:shame:
I will be more careful.
RC

Don't worry, it's not a problem. You didn't do anything wrong or break any rules.

Condition is a very tricky thing to figure out when all we have to go by is photos, so that's something that has to be left to the seller or buyer to judge. It can be hard enough judging authenticity just from a few pictures, and condition can involve so many more details like feel and odor that we're just not able to "see". Usually if there's a problem we spot that we think the poster or buyer may have missed, we'll point it out, but we just don't have enough information to comment.

ETA - change "seller" to "seller or buyer"

 

[ROCKY CRYSTAL]

Don't worry, it's not a problem. You didn't do anything wrong or break any rules.

Condition is a very tricky thing to figure out when all we have to go by is photos, so that's something that has to be left to the seller to judge. It can be hard enough judging authenticity just from a few pictures, and condition can involve so many more details like feel and odor that we're just not able to "see". Usually if there's a problem we spot that we think the poster or buyer may have missed, we'll point it out, but we just don't have enough information to comment.

 

[LouisieAnna]

Than, you, ladies. I was thinking of leaving neutrals and dinging their stars, but I like confirmation.

Hopefully, future buyers will search this thread for libertystore, and come across my saga, and be careful. I'm glad it's over. Thanks again for all your advice!

Quick update. I left neutrals, and libertystore is now asking me to revise the feedback. I declined. In my opinion, this seller behaved unprofessionally by being difficult to get to comply with their listing terms and combine shipping (and initiating NPB in the process), overcharging shipping on two of the four items, and not describing two of the items properly.

 

[LadyEdwards]

1- It's a genuine Bridle Top Handle

2- genuine Stewardess Bag, early to mid-1980s

3- genuine

Thank you!

 

[maramd]

Please authenticate. Thanks.

Vintage Leather Coach Brief Case Handbag Purse
Item 261920745306
Seller penneystarks
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-Lea...OHjBpm%2BhqV8VjJooGvI%3D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc

 

[Hyacinth]

Please authenticate. Thanks.

Vintage Leather Coach Brief Case Handbag Purse
Item 261920745306
Seller penneystarks
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-Lea...OHjBpm%2BhqV8VjJooGvI%3D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc

It's fine.

 

[ROCKY CRYSTAL]

Hello Ladies
Can anyone give me an authentication on this ?
size is about 9w x 5h x 5 d
Thanks
RC