Authenticate This COACH - **see first post for format**

[Vlad]

IMPORTANT READ-ME

Please post authenticity questions related to COACH in this thread. No PMs please.
For further information, please refer to the first post on page 1 of this thread.

Please follow the following requests:

• Before you submit a request for authentication, please search this thread to make sure that the item has not previously been authenticated by searching the seller ID and/or item number. This is not a thread to ask general questions about COACH, please refer to our main Coach forum for such information.
• Note that authenticators have the right to refuse any requests. This is a free service, but it is imperative that you help our authenticators by using the following format:
• FOR ITEMS LISTED ONLINE:
  Item:
  Listing number:
  Seller and site where listed
  Link:
  Comments:
  
  
• FOR ITEMS NOT LISTED ONLINE:
  Item:
  Where purchased or how obtained
  Comments:

BASIC PICTURES REQUIRED (but more may be requested): If necessary pictures are in the listing, it's not necessary to upload and duplicate them.

• Front of item
• Back of item
• Full clear and legible creed text and serial number
• Made in tags (when available)
• Measurements
• For bags with turnlock closures, show pictures of back of female side of turnlock
• For bags with magnetic snaps, show pictures of the male part of the snap so that the numbers and letters on it can be read
• If applicable, search interior of bag and/or pockets for small white tag with production information and include a picture of that.

Thank you and be safe!

 

[Hyacinth]

nm.

 

[Hyacinth]

Thank you so much, Hyacinth!


... ETA: thank you for the info for the catalogs. Lol, that might just feed the monster more.

Sorry, we should have warned you about that. Other members have been bitten by that monster too.

 

[sylbobags]

Hello I bought this Vintage Coach Willis bag on Mercari. It’s a very thick, luxuriously soft leather and the brass pieces are heavy and well made. I posted this on another site and someone immediately told me it was fake and a different site told me it was real. I’m looking for a 3rd opinion! Thank you.

 

[Jenhanson025]

Could someone help me authenticate this and/or find model name or number? Thanks so much! I purchased on poshmark from Mokexpress, here is the link: https://poshmark.com/listing/Black-Vintage-Coach-Crossbody-5eb196cb284e994424cba9d
I’ll attach photos as well! Thanks in advance!

 

[LunaSilver]

Authentic.

Authentic.

Thank you very much! Have a good night.

 

[Hyacinth]

Hello I bought this Vintage Coach Willis bag on Mercari. It’s a very thick, luxuriously soft leather and the brass pieces are heavy and well made. I posted this on another site and someone immediately told me it was fake and a different site told me it was real. I’m looking for a 3rd opinion! Thank you.

Sorry, it's fake. The serial number isn't using the correct font for a genuine bag with the same plant, month, and year codes. There are also at least two construction details that aren't right, and if we had photos of several other details we could probably find more mistakes.

Details in creeds and serial numbers, especially the exact fonts used by each plant during a specific time period, are critical in authenticating Coach items. The site or person who told you it was genuine should never be trusted with any more Coach "authentications".

Any genuine Willis or similar Coach with a serial number starting with "J6D" should have a serial prefix with digits that look like this, although they might NOT have the same short lines right above or below the letters and numbers those "overstamping lines" are not important here. The second half of the number is the style number and even though those numbers may be different, the fonts should be the same:

GENUINE J6D serial prefixes:


and


compared to yours - the "No J6D"s are completely different, and so are the fonts

 

[Hyacinth]

Could someone help me authenticate this and/or find model name or number? Thanks so much! I purchased on poshmark from Mokexpress, here is the link: https://poshmark.com/listing/Black-Vintage-Coach-Crossbody-5eb196cb284e994424cba9d
I’ll attach photos as well! Thanks in advance!

The Poshmark link isn't working. This looks like the right one, the last number is missing in your link:

Black Vintage Coach Crossbody

Shop mokexpress1's closet or find the perfect look from millions of stylists. Fast shipping and buyer protection. This is a genuine leather Coach bag. It has no serial number because some bags before the 1980’s did not always have them. Some small pen marks inside Very clean. Beige material...

poshmark.com

Do you actually have the bag in your possession? The seller may have mis-measured the bag by 2 inches both ways. The style details are right for a Sheridan Greensboro, but Coach gives the measurements for that style as 9x8 inches but the seller says it measures 11x10 inches. That's a pretty big difference. The seller also implies that the bag was made before the 1980s which is NOT correct at all, it would have been made in 1992 or 1993.

I'm not completely comfortable unless you can verify the measurements with the seller. Make sure she's not pulling out or extending the sides when she's measuring it, the side-to side measurement should only be from one seam to the other. The bag looks genuine but the measurements should be clarified, they may not fit your needs.

This is Coach's page on that style from a 1992 catalog:

 

[Jenhanson025]

The Poshmark link isn't working. This looks like the right one, the last number is missing in your link:

Black Vintage Coach Crossbody

Shop mokexpress1's closet or find the perfect look from millions of stylists. Fast shipping and buyer protection. This is a genuine leather Coach bag. It has no serial number because some bags before the 1980’s did not always have them. Some small pen marks inside Very clean. Beige material...

poshmark.com

Do you actually have the bag in your possession? The seller may have mis-measured the bag by 2 inches both ways. The style details are right for a Sheridan Greensboro, but Coach gives the measurements for that style as 9x8 inches but the seller says it measures 11x10 inches. That's a pretty big difference. The seller also implies that the bag was made before the 1980s which is NOT correct at all, it would have been made in 1992 or 1993.

I'm not completely comfortable unless you can verify the measurements with the seller. Make sure she's not pulling out or extending the sides when she's measuring it, the side-to side measurement should only be from one seam to the other. The bag seems genuine but the measurements should be clarified, they may not fit your needs.

This is Coach's page on that style from a 1992 catalog:
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I do not have it, I purchased it in a bundle without authenticating first- I should know better!! I guess I will see soon enough, I’ll reach out to her and ask as well. Thank you so much for your expertise! I looked everywhere! Thanks again!!

 

[BeenBurned]

Hello I bought this Vintage Coach Willis bag on Mercari. It’s a very thick, luxuriously soft leather and the brass pieces are heavy and well made. I posted this on another site and someone immediately told me it was fake and a different site told me it was real. I’m looking for a 3rd opinion! Thank you.

Sorry, it's fake. The serial number isn't using the correct font for a genuine bag with the same plant, month, and year codes. There are also at least two construction details that aren't right, and if we had photos of several other details we could probably find more mistakes.

Details in creeds and serial numbers, especially the exact fonts used by each plant during a specific time period, are critical in authenticating Coach items. The site or person who told you it was genuine should never be trusted with any more Coach "authentications".

Any genuine Willis or similar Coach with a serial number starting with "J6D" should have a serial prefix with digits that look like this, although they might NOT have the same short lines right above or below the letters and numbers those "overstamping lines" are not important here. The second half of the number is the style number and even though those numbers may be different, the fonts should be the same:

GENUINE J6D serial prefixes:
View attachment 5266006

and
View attachment 5266007

compared to yours - the "No J6D"s are completely different, and so are the fonts
View attachment 5266016

Link to the Mercari listing and seller please.

 

[JorieD]

Hello,
Is this bag authentic?
Thank you.

Site: Ebay
Link: https://www.ebay.ca/itm/265428193675?hash=item3dccc0d18b:g:VNQAAOSwcpBhpStb
Seller: cooperstreasure

 

[Hyacinth]

Hello,
Is this bag authentic?
Thank you.

Site: Ebay
Link: https://www.ebay.ca/itm/265428193675?hash=item3dccc0d18b:g:VNQAAOSwcpBhpStb
Seller: cooperstreasure

Genuine, and made in 1999

 

[JorieD]

Genuine, and made in 1999

Thank you!

 

[sylbobags]

This is seller who sold the Willis
https://www.mercari.com//u/164959789
And here’s the listing
https://merc.li/C7MHCm36b

 

[sylbobags]

Link to the Mercari listing and seller please.

https://merc.li/C7MHCm36b

 

[sylbobags]

Sorry, it's fake. The serial number isn't using the correct font for a genuine bag with the same plant, month, and year codes. There are also at least two construction details that aren't right, and if we had photos of several other details we could probably find more mistakes.

Details in creeds and serial numbers, especially the exact fonts used by each plant during a specific time period, are critical in authenticating Coach items. The site or person who told you it was genuine should never be trusted with any more Coach "authentications".

Any genuine Willis or similar Coach with a serial number starting with "J6D" should have a serial prefix with digits that look like this, although they might NOT have the same short lines right above or below the letters and numbers those "overstamping lines" are not important here. The second half of the number is the style number and even though those numbers may be different, the fonts should be the same:

GENUINE J6D serial prefixes:
View attachment 5266006

and
View attachment 5266007

compared to yours - the "No J6D"s are completely different, and so are the fonts
View attachment 5266016

Thank you for this info. I’m very surprised it isn’t authentic. What construction details aren’t right?