Authenticate This COACH - **see first post for format**

[Vlad]

IMPORTANT READ-ME

Please post authenticity questions related to COACH in this thread. No PMs please.
For further information, please refer to the first post on page 1 of this thread.

Please follow the following requests:

• Before you submit a request for authentication, please search this thread to make sure that the item has not previously been authenticated by searching the seller ID and/or item number. This is not a thread to ask general questions about COACH, please refer to our main Coach forum for such information.
• Note that authenticators have the right to refuse any requests. This is a free service, but it is imperative that you help our authenticators by using the following format:
• FOR ITEMS LISTED ONLINE:
  Item:
  Listing number:
  Seller and site where listed
  Link:
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• FOR ITEMS NOT LISTED ONLINE:
  Item:
  Where purchased or how obtained
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BASIC PICTURES REQUIRED (but more may be requested): If necessary pictures are in the listing, it's not necessary to upload and duplicate them.

• Front of item
• Back of item
• Full clear and legible creed text and serial number
• Made in tags (when available)
• Measurements
• For bags with turnlock closures, show pictures of back of female side of turnlock
• For bags with magnetic snaps, show pictures of the male part of the snap so that the numbers and letters on it can be read
• If applicable, search interior of bag and/or pockets for small white tag with production information and include a picture of that.

Thank you and be safe!

 

[GoStanford]

And another request of our wonderful authenticators. I already made the purchase but would appreciate your expertise.

Item: two Coach Stewardess bags
Listing number: 353597397542, 255071112658
Seller and site where listed: dreamcometrue734 on eBay
Link: https://www.ebay.com/itm/255071112658, https://www.ebay.com/itm/353597397542
Comments: N/A

 

[ilikeoldbags]

Hello everyone! I have a some bags I’d like to authenticate here
1) city bag received from friend, this one measures about 11x4x8.5.
2) 9966: I don’t remember where I got this, probably thrifted, measures 11x10x4.5
3) court bag, thrifted, measures 9.5x8x3 approximately
4)another court bag, measures 9.5x8.5x3- extremely hard to get pic of creed but it says made in United States.
A huge TIA!!

 

[Hyacinth]

Hello everyone! I have a some bags I’d like to authenticate here
1) city bag received from friend, this one measures about 11x4x8.5.
2) 9966: I don’t remember where I got this, probably thrifted, measures 11x10x4.5
3) court bag, thrifted, measures 9.5x8x3 approximately
4)another court bag, measures 9.5x8.5x3- extremely hard to get pic of creed but it says made in United States.
A huge TIA!!

All the bags in the posted photos are genuine.

 

[Hyacinth]

And another request of our wonderful authenticators. I already made the purchase but would appreciate your expertise.

Item: two Coach Stewardess bags
Listing number: 353597397542, 255071112658
Seller and site where listed: dreamcometrue734 on eBay
Link: https://www.ebay.com/itm/255071112658, https://www.ebay.com/itm/353597397542
Comments: N/A

Both are authentic

 

[Hyacinth]

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This seems like an example of a false serial number, with upside down digits. However, I'm wondering if these kinds of errors have been made in manufacturing. I have saved the original listing in case it needs to be flagged.

We ALWAYS need to see the original listing and all available photos. There's a 99.995 percent chance that the bag with this serial number stamping is fake but we need to see the entire set of photos, the URL of the listing and especially the seller's name and selling site, as required in the Read Me post at the top of each page.

We want to remove fakes from circulation.

 

[ilikeoldbags]

Hello authenticators, this appears to be a pre serial number basic bag. It measures 11x7 and just over 2” wide, Talon zipper. The strap is 31” not including clasps. Thrifted. if real, when would this date to? Thank you so much

 

[katev]

Item: RARE VINTAGE Coach Classic Leather Handbag, Brown!
Seller and site where listed: sfusco18, Poshmark ($41)
Link: https://poshmark.com/listing/RARE-V...eather-Handbag-Brown-6004663a8da5c9c4edad7df2

Comments: I believe that this is a Bridle Satchel 6707 in Mahogany and Brass; originally made in Italy in 1998 ($268). Please give an opinion on authenticity and let me know if you agree with my identification? Thank you in advance for your expertise.

PS, I've attached a couple of photos of the creed but they are not very easy to read; additional photos of the bag may be found at the link above. Thanks again!

 

[GoStanford]

We ALWAYS need to see the original listing and all available photos. There's a 99.995 percent chance that the bag with this serial number stamping is fake but we need to see the entire set of photos, the URL of the listing and especially the seller's name and selling site, as required in the Read Me post at the top of each page.

We want to remove fakes from circulation.

Got it - here is the info for the concerning item:

Item: vintage Coach leather briefcase
Listing number: 255058793105
Seller and site where listed: natalia12908 on eBay
Link: https://www.ebay.com/itm/255058793105
Comments: N/A

Thank you for all your help with authentication and for your earlier help on the Stewardess bags!

 

[Roro]

Hello, authenticators. I am high bidder on this duffle sac but need an authentication before I pay.

Duffle Sac?
Link: https://www.ebay.com/itm/324726463687?autorefresh=true
Seller: flashdancequeen
Item: 324726463687

Hoping, as always, for good news. Thank you, all!

 

[Hyacinth]

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This seems like an example of a false serial number, with upside down digits. However, I'm wondering if these kinds of errors have been made in manufacturing. I have saved the original listing in case it needs to be flagged.

Got it - here is the info for the concerning item:

Item: vintage Coach leather briefcase
Listing number: 255058793105
Seller and site where listed: natalia12908 on eBay
Link: https://www.ebay.com/itm/255058793105
Comments: N/A

Thank you for all your help with authentication and for your earlier help on the Stewardess bags!

WOW. This has been an interesting fake to study!

It's definitely fake (I THINK!). I even found the style it was copying, a Madison Brief style 5325 also made in China in 2000 but with a genuine China creed stamp and a genuine S plant code. (There was a B plant code being used very briefly in 2000 but apparently only for limited production items, see the last 2 photos).

The briefcase styles are identical, but the fake doesn't seem to have the same metal "slider" closure under the buckles as the genuine one. The fake was probably copied at the Chinese plant that was making the real one but with a different creed and VERY different serial number.

Here's the brown fake with the E0B-5355 half-upside-down serial number - click on the thumbnails to enlarge if necessary:








and a GENUINE Madison Brief from 2000, H0S-5325 made in China's "S" plant:








and finally, a GENUINE B-plant, possibly temporary, Made in the US creed for a Limited Edition "Bonnie Retro Hobo" Cashin remake






Someone went through a lot of trouble to copy that Madison Brief but then messed up completely on the creed and serial number details.

ETA (ACMA) - to be completely fair to the seller, there's maybe a 1 in 10,000 chance that it's genuine and was just a badly messed up sample or pilot, but I've never seen one with such a screwed-up serial number stamp before, or one that used a B plant code. I've seen a few, less than a dozen maybe, other serials with MAYBE one number upside down but never two and never when the style number itself isn't correct.

It would be hard to believe that counterfeiters would waste their time making a one-off and I've never seen another example of this possible fake before so I'm hesitant about reporting it. But there's absolutely NO WAY I would ever recommend buying it.

Other opinions are welcome.

 

[Hyacinth]

Hello, authenticators. I am high bidder on this duffle sac but need an authentication before I pay.

Duffle Sac?
Link: https://www.ebay.com/itm/324726463687?autorefresh=true
Seller: flashdancequeen
Item: 324726463687

Hoping, as always, for good news. Thank you, all!

It looks OK

 

[Roro]

It looks OK

Thank you, Hyacinth!

 

[Hyacinth]

Item: RARE VINTAGE Coach Classic Leather Handbag, Brown!
Seller and site where listed: sfusco18, Poshmark ($41)
Link: https://poshmark.com/listing/RARE-V...eather-Handbag-Brown-6004663a8da5c9c4edad7df2

Comments: I believe that this is a Bridle Satchel 6707 in Mahogany and Brass; originally made in Italy in 1998 ($268). Please give an opinion on authenticity and let me know if you agree with my identification? Thank you in advance for your expertise.

PS, I've attached a couple of photos of the creed but they are not very easy to read; additional photos of the bag may be found at the link above. Thanks again!

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That's what it looks like to me too.

 

[Hyacinth]

Hello authenticators, this appears to be a pre serial number basic bag. It measures 11x7 and just over 2” wide, Talon zipper. The strap is 31” not including clasps. Thrifted. if real, when would this date to? Thank you so much

Genuine, probably early to mid 1980s.

 

[katev]

That's what it looks like to me too.

Thanks so much!