Authenticate This COACH - **see first post for format**

[Vlad]

IMPORTANT READ-ME

Please post authenticity questions related to COACH in this thread. No PMs please.
For further information, please refer to the first post on page 1 of this thread.

Please follow the following requests:

• Before you submit a request for authentication, please search this thread to make sure that the item has not previously been authenticated by searching the seller ID and/or item number. This is not a thread to ask general questions about COACH, please refer to our main Coach forum for such information.
• Note that authenticators have the right to refuse any requests. This is a free service, but it is imperative that you help our authenticators by using the following format:
• FOR ITEMS LISTED ONLINE:
  Item:
  Listing number:
  Seller and site where listed
  Link:
  Comments:
  
  
• FOR ITEMS NOT LISTED ONLINE:
  Item:
  Where purchased or how obtained
  Comments:

BASIC PICTURES REQUIRED (but more may be requested): If necessary pictures are in the listing, it's not necessary to upload and duplicate them.

• Front of item
• Back of item
• Full clear and legible creed text and serial number
• Made in tags (when available)
• Measurements
• For bags with turnlock closures, show pictures of back of female side of turnlock
• For bags with magnetic snaps, show pictures of the male part of the snap so that the numbers and letters on it can be read
• If applicable, search interior of bag and/or pockets for small white tag with production information and include a picture of that.

Thank you and be safe!

 

[whateve]

Good afternoon dear authenticators! Another request to authenticate please. Thank you!!!

Item: Soho bucket bag? 4148
Where purchased or how obtained: thrift store
Comments: dimensions are 9" height, 7 1/2" width, almost 3 1/2" depth. I am organising and have seen that there are quite a few that I don't believe I had requested an authentication. Please let me know when to stop, I don't wish to flood the thread or 'overstay my welcome'. Thank you!!! ETA the "H" in the creed concerns me.
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I'm not seeing the creed picture.

 

[whateve]

Hello,
Can you please authenticate the following:
Item: coach legacy
Site ebay
Seller: alecille0
Link:

Vintage Coach Lulu Legacy Black Leather Drawstring Purse | eBay

Vintage Coach Lulu Legacy Black Leather Drawstring Purse. Condition is "Pre-owned". Shipped with USPS Priority Mail.

www.ebay.com

Listing appears to have been removed.

 

[whateve]

And one more, thank you again:

Item: Prescott briefcase
Listing number: 124827000682
Seller and site: ronbis2013 on ebay
Link: https://www.ebay.com/itm/124827000682?hash=item1d1044df6a:g:~n0AAOSw3VVg5zL~&LH_BIN=1
Comments: Prescott briefcase in Prescott, AZ

Authentic. You had better not tell the seller its name; she may decide to keep it!

 

[Jacynthe]

Good afternoon dear authenticators! Another request to authenticate please. Thank you!!!

Item: Soho bucket bag? 4148
Where purchased or how obtained: thrift store
Comments: dimensions are 9" height, 7 1/2" width, almost 3 1/2" depth. I am organising and have seen that there are quite a few that I don't believe I had requested an authentication. Please let me know when to stop, I don't wish to flood the thread or 'overstay my welcome'. Thank you!!! ETA the "H" in the creed concerns me.
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I don't know why it didn't show in my original request. Here it is now. Thank you so much!!!

 

[Syaki]

Hello,
Can you please authenticate the following:
Item: coach legacy
Site ebay
Seller: settlesclev
Link:

COACH Vintage #9952 Lula Smith's Legacy Bag Black Brass | eBay

It is 10" high, 10" wide and 5 1/2" deep. One drawstring cover is missing and small tear on shoulder strap.

www.ebay.com

 

[KittKatt]

Good evening! Could someone please take a look at this compact pouch? I already have a one with the same removable strap in ?tabac that I really like as my bare essentials bag so I took an educated chance on this one. Thank you in advance!

Item: compact pouch
Seller: rjwautomotive69
Link: https://www.ebay.ca/itm/184962177655

 

[whateve]

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I don't know why it didn't show in my original request. Here it is now. Thank you so much!!!

It's authentic. The H is exactly like it should be.

 

[whateve]

Hello,
Can you please authenticate the following:
Item: coach legacy
Site ebay
Seller: settlesclev
Link:

COACH Vintage #9952 Lula Smith's Legacy Bag Black Brass | eBay

It is 10" high, 10" wide and 5 1/2" deep. One drawstring cover is missing and small tear on shoulder strap.

www.ebay.com

Authentic.

 

[whateve]

Good evening! Could someone please take a look at this compact pouch? I already have a one with the same removable strap in ?tabac that I really like as my bare essentials bag so I took an educated chance on this one. Thank you in advance!

Item: compact pouch
Seller: rjwautomotive69
Link: https://www.ebay.ca/itm/184962177655

Authentic. Nice!

 

[KittKatt]

Authentic. Nice!

Thank you, whateve! Hopefully this one rehabs as nicely and as easily as my other one…!

 

[BeenBurned]

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This seems like an example of a false serial number, with upside down digits. However, I'm wondering if these kinds of errors have been made in manufacturing. I have saved the original listing in case it needs to be flagged.

Got it - here is the info for the concerning item:

Item: vintage Coach leather briefcase
Listing number: 255058793105
Seller and site where listed: natalia12908 on eBay
Link: https://www.ebay.com/itm/255058793105
Comments: N/A

Thank you for all your help with authentication and for your earlier help on the Stewardess bags!

WOW. This has been an interesting fake to study!

It's definitely fake (I THINK!). I even found the style it was copying, a Madison Brief style 5325 also made in China in 2000 but with a genuine China creed stamp and a genuine S plant code. (There was a B plant code being used very briefly in 2000 but apparently only for limited production items, see the last 2 photos).

The briefcase styles are identical, but the fake doesn't seem to have the same metal "slider" closure under the buckles as the genuine one. The fake was probably copied at the Chinese plant that was making the real one but with a different creed and VERY different serial number.

Here's the brown fake with the E0B-5355 half-upside-down serial number - click on the thumbnails to enlarge if necessary:

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and a GENUINE Madison Brief from 2000, H0S-5325 made in China's "S" plant:

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and finally, a GENUINE B-plant, possibly temporary, Made in the US creed for a Limited Edition "Bonnie Retro Hobo" Cashin remake

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Someone went through a lot of trouble to copy that Madison Brief but then messed up completely on the creed and serial number details.

ETA (ACMA) - to be completely fair to the seller, there's maybe a 1 in 10,000 chance that it's genuine and was just a badly messed up sample or pilot, but I've never seen one with such a screwed-up serial number stamp before, or one that used a B plant code. I've seen a few, less than a dozen maybe, other serials with MAYBE one number upside down but never two and never when the style number itself isn't correct.

It would be hard to believe that counterfeiters would waste their time making a one-off and I've never seen another example of this possible fake before so I'm hesitant about reporting it. But there's absolutely NO WAY I would ever recommend buying it.

Other opinions are welcome.

Spectacular detective work, thank you so much for your time and the thorough explanation. I will be staying away from that listing. This type of expertise is one of the best things about coming back to the Coach forum!

I agree. The shape of the zero, as well as some of the other letters, is completely off.

I'm late to the party but I agree it's fake also.

Another problem is with the "N" in No. It should be sans serif.

 

[JuneCleaverSemperFi]

Hi would you please authenticate this bag I purchased at the estate sale? 10.75" x 9" x 4.5" Thanks

 

[Hyacinth]

Hi would you please authenticate this bag I purchased at the estate sale? 10.75" x 9" x 4.5" Thanks

Genuine Legacy Zip with one of those wonky 2004-not-1994 year codes.

 

[Syaki]

Authentic.

Thank you very much.

 

[Jacynthe]

It's authentic. The H is exactly like it should be.

Good morning whateve! Thank you very much for sharing your knowledge and time with me for this request!!! I appreciate it!!!