Authenticate This COACH - **see first post for format**

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IMPORTANT READ-ME

Please post authenticity questions related to COACH in this thread. No PMs please.
For further information, please refer to the first post on page 1 of this thread.

Please follow the following requests:
  • Before you submit a request for authentication, please search this thread to make sure that the item has not previously been authenticated by searching the seller ID and/or item number. This is not a thread to ask general questions about COACH, please refer to our main Coach forum for such information.
  • Note that authenticators have the right to refuse any requests. This is a free service, but it is imperative that you help our authenticators by using the following format:
  • FOR ITEMS LISTED ONLINE:
    Item:
    Listing number:
    Seller and site where listed
    Link:
    Comments:

  • FOR ITEMS NOT LISTED ONLINE:
    Item:
    Where purchased or how obtained
    Comments:
BASIC PICTURES REQUIRED (but more may be requested): If necessary pictures are in the listing, it's not necessary to upload and duplicate them.
  • Front of item
  • Back of item
  • Full clear and legible creed text and serial number
  • Made in tags (when available)
  • Measurements
  • For bags with turnlock closures, show pictures of back of female side of turnlock
  • For bags with magnetic snaps, show pictures of the male part of the snap so that the numbers and letters on it can be read
  • If applicable, search interior of bag and/or pockets for small white tag with production information and include a picture of that.
Thank you and be safe!
 
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BookwormSally said:
Item: Coach (or Fauxch) Bleeker Bucket, 10”h x 10”w x 4”d
Where purchased or how obtained: Thrift store in April before I was aware of this forum
Comments: Thanks to Hyacinth, I read the SaleAreaGuides and discovered that the “J4K- prefixes are ALWAYS fake”. I’m just double-checking and wallowing in shame. At least it was cheap. Thank you, always, for all that you do for us and your time.
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Yep, it's still fake. Looks like it's trying to be a Bleecker Bucket but failing miserably. And the date code is 3 or 4 years off too.
 
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michynyc said:
Ack, one more I just won!

Item: Not sure
Listing number: N/A
Seller and site where listed: rcsennett on Poshmark
Link: https://poshmark.com/listing/Vintage-Coach-Purse-5f0f8173cb692c8238eda112
Comments: From the 60s/70s?

Thanks again!
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The one you're asking about is genuine, probably a City Bag made in the early to mid-1980s.

Coaches made in the 1960s and PROBABLY the 1970s would NOT have serial numbers, from the recent evidence we've found, although it's slightly possible that serial numbers may have come into use right around 1980. Read the six Salearea Guides posted here at tPF for an ACCURATE history of Coach creeds and numbers. Any seller who claims any Coach with a serial number was made in the 1960s OR during the time Bonnie Cashin was designing for Coach, which ended in 1974, is badly misinformed or just plain clueless.

SaleArea guides

Now that ebay is removing the guides they've been hosting for years, those who use those guides have been forced to either save them on their computers or print them. Tonight I found that the Salearea guides (including the Hyacinth/Salearea collaboration ones) have been saved to Salearea's...
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And for heaven's sake, don't believe much, if any, of those useless, inaccurate and just plain dangerous "authenticity guides" you find on the internet. Just because the ones who wrote and posted them don't mind looking like fools who don't understand the meaning of "research" doesn't mean that you have to accept their misinformation as fact.
 
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Hyacinth said:
Coaches made in the 1960s and PROBABLY the 1970s would NOT have serial numbers, from the recent evidence we've found, although it's slightly possible that serial numbers may have come into use right around 1980. Read the six Salearea Guides posted here at tPF for an ACCURATE history of Coach creeds and numbers. Any seller who claims any Coach with a serial number was made in the 1960s OR during the time Bonnie Cashin was designing for Coach, which ended in 1974, is badly misinformed or just plain clueless.

SaleArea guides

Now that ebay is removing the guides they've been hosting for years, those who use those guides have been forced to either save them on their computers or print them. Tonight I found that the Salearea guides (including the Hyacinth/Salearea collaboration ones) have been saved to Salearea's...
forum.purseblog.com forum.purseblog.com

And for heaven's sake, don't believe much, if any, of those useless, inaccurate and just plain dangerous "authenticity guides" you find on the internet. Just because the ones who wrote and posted them don't mind looking like fools who don't understand the meaning of "research" doesn't mean that you have to accept their misinformation as fact.
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Yes, I had read the guides which is why I thought it was from the 60s or 70s (not the seller). It has the "Leatherware" stamped and also has a serial number that isn't a style number. So is this bag not authentic? Thanks!
 
#61,973
Syaki said:
Thank you. Is the lightweight line alot thinner than the traditional vintage leather?
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The leathers are thinner and the hardware is lighter. Coach started moving away from solid brass hardware with this line and introduced plated brass over a lighter-weight base metal, and even started using nylon zippers on some styles.
 
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michynyc said:
Yes, I had read the guides which is why I thought it was from the 60s or 70s (not the seller). It has the "Leatherware" stamped and also has a serial number that isn't a style number. So is this bag not authentic? Thanks!
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I added that to my post. If we call something a Coach or give it a Coach name or number, it's a Coach. Fakes don't get names and don't deserve names.
 
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Hyacinth said:
The leathers are thinner and the hardware is lighter. Coach started moving away from solid brass hardware with this line and introduced plated brass over a lighter-weight base metal, and even started using nylon zippers on some styles.
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Thank you for the insight on this line; greatly appreciated. I continue to learn. Thanks again.
 
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