Authenticate This COACH - **see first post for format**

[Vlad]

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BASIC PICTURES REQUIRED (but more may be requested): If necessary pictures are in the listing, it's not necessary to upload and duplicate them.

• Front of item
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• Full clear and legible creed text and serial number
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Thank you and be safe!

 

[JuneCleaverSemperFi]

You're missing a picture of the front of the bag. When we ask for the back of the turnlock, we mean the back of the female portion. The creed is mostly unreadable.

You're missing a picture of the front of the bag. When we ask for the back of the turnlock, we mean the back of the female portion. The creed is mostly unreadable.

woops, here it is. I am unable to get a clearer shot of the creed, it is barely legible in person either.

 

[JuneCleaverSemperFi]

You're missing a picture of the front of the bag. When we ask for the back of the turnlock, we mean the back of the female portion. The creed is mostly unreadable.

 

[PACNWPurseLover]

Good evening! Hope everyone is well this Sunday night. Have this new find I would appreciate authenticating, and identifying.

Found at: Goodwill store
Notes- feels well made, just not sure of the creed and serial number

Thanks as always for your assistance!

 

[BeenBurned]

woops, here it is. I am unable to get a clearer shot of the creed, it is barely legible in person either.

it's authentic and made in 1999.

 

[whateve]

Good evening! Hope everyone is well this Sunday night. Have this new find I would appreciate authenticating, and identifying.

Found at: Goodwill store
Notes- feels well made, just not sure of the creed and serial number

Thanks as always for your assistance!

It's authentic. It is a Halsey bag #4121, part of the Lightweights collection, made around 1992.

 

[night-owl]

Just a correction to @night-owl - The style number of the station bag is 5130, not 9927 as described (in the item specifics) by the seller.

Yes, thank you! I noticed that after I had already posted. The seller also had a Willis listed; which might explain the mixup.

 

[PACNWPurseLover]

It's authentic. It is a Halsey bag #4121, part of the Lightweights collection, made around 1992.

Thank you so much Whatev! I really like this one for some unknown reason. It is just really...cute.

 

[Ammrx]

Is this authentic ?? At the goodwill.

 

[BeenBurned]

Is this authentic ?? At the goodwill.

It's fake.

Any bag with J8Y as the prefix is fake.

 

[Nataluccia3]

Hi! Could you please take a look at this one for me? There are brass and silver/nickel rivets on the strap. Thanks!

I’ll post measurements soon if needed.
Poshmark Jess_4812

https://posh.mk/ApWdtQcO1bb

 

[Hyacinth]

Hi! Could you please take a look at this one for me? There are brass and silver/nickel rivets on the strap. Thanks!

I’ll post measurements soon if needed.
Poshmark Jess_4812

https://posh.mk/ApWdtQcO1bb

Please wait for other opinions, but I believe it's authentic. And OLD. Early to mid 70s maybe? I wonder if the strap attachment was repaired by Coach, or maybe by a leather repair shop. I've never seen FOUR rivets on one before. The top zipper leather pull tab also might be a replacement.

WHATEVE, please take a look. Thanks!

ETA - RLBernstein posted this a few years ago about the early Duffle Sacs:

"I recently stumbled upon an old COACH adverts that seem to show that the earliest style #9085 was indeed made with a central seam and sewn-on tabs and that the style was modified at some later date to the configuration that everyone is used to seeing. I suspect that the change happened early on since I've seen photos of pre-creed (metal tag) Duffle Sacs made using the later design. It wouldn't surprise me if they discovered within the first year that the sewn-on tabs were insufficient for this size bag. "
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first version Duffle Sac (probably from 1972). This version (with the riveted on buckle tabs, the finished (no binding) lower seam, and no interior pocket) was made for only a couple of seasons (initially with a exterior metal tag and subsequently with similarly located cartouche imprint). It was replaced with the second design iteration (which had the body seam rotated midway between the riveted buckle tabs, a bound lower seam, and an interior slip pocket with cartouche imprint as shown in Hyacinth's posting's photos). That version also was made for only a limited amount of time and was in turn succeeded by the version of the #9085 Duffle Sac as we know it today (vertical seams aligned with integrated roll-over buckle tabs and a bound lower seam"

Authenticate This COACH - **see first post for format**

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[whateve]

Hi! Could you please take a look at this one for me? There are brass and silver/nickel rivets on the strap. Thanks!

I’ll post measurements soon if needed.
Poshmark Jess_4812

https://posh.mk/ApWdtQcO1bb

Please wait for other opinions, but I believe it's authentic. And OLD. Early to mid 70s maybe? I wonder if the strap attachment was repaired by Coach, or maybe by a leather repair shop. I've never seen FOUR rivets on one before. The top zipper leather pull tab also might be a replacement.

WHATEVE, please take a look. Thanks!

ETA - RLBernstein posted this a few years ago about the early Duffle Sacs:

"I recently stumbled upon an old COACH adverts that seem to show that the earliest style #9085 was indeed made with a central seam and sewn-on tabs and that the style was modified at some later date to the configuration that everyone is used to seeing. I suspect that the change happened early on since I've seen photos of pre-creed (metal tag) Duffle Sacs made using the later design. It wouldn't surprise me if they discovered within the first year that the sewn-on tabs were insufficient for this size bag. "
.........................................................
first version Duffle Sac (probably from 1972). This version (with the riveted on buckle tabs, the finished (no binding) lower seam, and no interior pocket) was made for only a couple of seasons (initially with a exterior metal tag and subsequently with similarly located cartouche imprint). It was replaced with the second design iteration (which had the body seam rotated midway between the riveted buckle tabs, a bound lower seam, and an interior slip pocket with cartouche imprint as shown in Hyacinth's posting's photos). That version also was made for only a limited amount of time and was in turn succeeded by the version of the #9085 Duffle Sac as we know it today (vertical seams aligned with integrated roll-over buckle tabs and a bound lower seam"

Authenticate This COACH - **see first post for format**

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I believe it is fine. Didn't I already authenticate it? I think the rivets were only brass plated and the plating has worn off on most of them.

 

[Hyacinth]

I believe it is fine. Didn't I already authenticate it? I think the rivets were only brass plated and the plating has worn off on most of them.

You may have done but I don't remember. I'm just tickled to find something almost 50 years old. It's in better shape than I was at 50!

 

[Nataluccia3]

I believe it is fine. Didn't I already authenticate it? I think the rivets were only brass plated and the plating has worn off on most of them.

Not officially. I’ve just been sending you the pics through rehab

Brass plating makes sense. It doesn’t seem like the rivets vary in any other aspect aside from the color.

Please wait for other opinions, but I believe it's authentic. And OLD. Early to mid 70s maybe? I wonder if the strap attachment was repaired by Coach, or maybe by a leather repair shop. I've never seen FOUR rivets on one before. The top zipper leather pull tab also might be a replacement.

WHATEVE, please take a look. Thanks!

ETA - RLBernstein posted this a few years ago about the early Duffle Sacs:

"I recently stumbled upon an old COACH adverts that seem to show that the earliest style #9085 was indeed made with a central seam and sewn-on tabs and that the style was modified at some later date to the configuration that everyone is used to seeing. I suspect that the change happened early on since I've seen photos of pre-creed (metal tag) Duffle Sacs made using the later design. It wouldn't surprise me if they discovered within the first year that the sewn-on tabs were insufficient for this size bag. "
.........................................................
first version Duffle Sac (probably from 1972). This version (with the riveted on buckle tabs, the finished (no binding) lower seam, and no interior pocket) was made for only a couple of seasons (initially with a exterior metal tag and subsequently with similarly located cartouche imprint). It was replaced with the second design iteration (which had the body seam rotated midway between the riveted buckle tabs, a bound lower seam, and an interior slip pocket with cartouche imprint as shown in Hyacinth's posting's photos). That version also was made for only a limited amount of time and was in turn succeeded by the version of the #9085 Duffle Sac as we know it today (vertical seams aligned with integrated roll-over buckle tabs and a bound lower seam"

Authenticate This COACH - **see first post for format**

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Thanks for the date and additional info, Hyacinth! I suspected as much regarding the pull tab. It is really stiff and doesn’t feel to me like Coach leather or shape but things change over the years, so I wasn’t sure what to expect. As discussed with Whateve in the rehab forum, this leather is quite a bit thinner than my 9085. We weren’t sure on color names. Are there any records of color charts for the early 70s or is that asking too much?

 

[Nataluccia3]

You may have done but I don't remember. I'm just tickled to find something almost 50 years old. It's in better shape than I was at 50!

Haha! I was pretty tickled myself. If you’d like any other pics, let me know! Here are some developments from rehab:

Interesting to see the differences between this one and the 9085. For your viewing pleasure. Bath time!

This leather is much more floppy than my 9085 as well. It just collapses. I applied three coats of CPR to the strap last night immediately after dunking and it was absorbed by the time I made it from one set of rivets to the other. It just soaked it up! Then I patted the bag dry and let it sit on my lap on a towel with another towel resting in the bottom of the duffle and spread two coats of CPR over the bag and it absorbed quickly as well. Stuffed it with two large towels and applied another coat of CPR on the bag and strap this morning. Thirsty gal! It has certainly darkened in color but there aren’t any golden or red hues like BT.

Pic collapsing after bath time. The leather feels thinner and more worn than both of my USA bucket bags, Helen’s and duffle sac.

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Does anyone know a date range and color options for this? Early 70s?

daylight color. And snowing outside!

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