Authenticate This COACH - **see first post for format**

[Vlad]

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For further information, please refer to the first post on page 1 of this thread.

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BASIC PICTURES REQUIRED (but more may be requested): If necessary pictures are in the listing, it's not necessary to upload and duplicate them.

• Front of item
• Back of item
• Full clear and legible creed text and serial number
• Made in tags (when available)
• Measurements
• For bags with turnlock closures, show pictures of back of female side of turnlock
• For bags with magnetic snaps, show pictures of the male part of the snap so that the numbers and letters on it can be read
• If applicable, search interior of bag and/or pockets for small white tag with production information and include a picture of that.

Thank you and be safe!

 

[Yrelle]

FWIW, I also looked for the holes and didn't see anything.

Just a warning that this isn't the only non-Coach that herroyalshyness has sold as "Coach." (There may have been more than these.)
This item was sold: https://poshmark.com/listing/Authentic-Vintage-Coach-Legacy-Zip-no-9966-5de537ee31874003275e758c
And this one: https://poshmark.com/listing/Vintage-Coach-Mini-Daypack-no-9969-British-Tan-5d86c71779df27d42bf61ec4
And https://poshmark.com/listing/Vintag...cy-Crossbody-No-9061-5d49aff710f00f876f7d0df8

ETA: And here's another that someone paid $100 for! https://poshmark.com/listing/Authentic-Vintage-Coach-XL-Duffle-Sac-no-9085-5cf30a1d2eb33fc17640a4b8

I’ve noticed that most of these bags have an H plant code. Is that plant code non existent?

 

[SuzieSueSure]

Hi all!

recent purchase in hand with exact pictures added.

Thank you
Item: “Vintage leather coach purse”
Seller:Jem18 on Mercari
Link:
https://merc.li/cfPE7w3kb
Comments: I’ve never seen this style this petite. Thank you!!

 

[Hyacinth]

I’ve noticed that most of these bags have an H plant code. Is that plant code non existent?

No, but it's moved around a lot. Some plant codes stayed with one plant for most if not all of their existence, like the E plant code for Italy. Others, almost half of the pre-2000 codes, were what we call "floaters", they were assigned where they were needed and could have been used for 3 or 4 different plants, sometimes more than once. The genuine H plant code usually had at least one noticeable difference from the rest of the serial number digits, and so did almost all the other "floaters". The H code has often been faked as you've seen from the fakes BeenBurned posted.

Figuring out plant codes and whether or not they're accurate for the bag is best left to the authenticators. The floaters especially require an extensive photo file of as many different plant, month and year combinations as possible, both real and fake. Even the almost unchanging C and D plant codes have had some close fakes.

BTW, at least one of the fakes from that seller has a "K3H-" code which is ALWAYS fake, no exceptions.

 

[Hyacinth]

Hi all!

recent purchase in hand with exact pictures added.

Thank you
Item: “Vintage leather coach purse”
Seller:Jem18 on Mercari
Link:
https://merc.li/cfPE7w3kb
Comments: I’ve never seen this style this petite. Thank you!!

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It's genuine, probably a Small Shoulder Bag style 9530 from the early to mid-1980s. Here's the description from one of the 1983 catalogs:

 

[SuzieSueSure]

It's genuine, probably a Small Shoulder Bag style 9530 from the early to mid-1980s. Here's the description from one of the 1983 catalogs:

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Thank you so much!! ❤️ Love the vintage catalogs!

 

[Yrelle]

No, but it's moved around a lot. Some plant codes stayed with one plant for most if not all of their existence, like the E plant code for Italy. Others, almost half of the pre-2000 codes, were what we call "floaters", they were assigned where they were needed and could have been used for 3 or 4 different plants, sometimes more than once. The genuine H plant code usually had at least one noticeable difference from the rest of the serial number digits, and so did almost all the other "floaters". The H code has often been faked as you've seen from the fakes BeenBurned posted.

Figuring out plant codes and whether or not they're accurate for the bag is best left to the authenticators. The floaters especially require an extensive photo file of as many different plant, month and year combinations as possible, both real and fake. Even the almost unchanging C and D plant codes have had some close fakes.

BTW, at least one of the fakes from that seller has a "K3H-" code which is ALWAYS fake, no exceptions.

Thank you. Yet again,I learned something new from here. I’ll be sure to ask, if I ever plan to buy something specially ones that has floater codes.

 

[moreau_md]

All are authentic. I think the first one would be a big rehab challenge. If you don't repair the damage, it will get worse as those are areas of stress. The leather texture looks worn out and there might be mold. It is possible to repair the damage with leather glue and puffy paint but I think it would be difficult to get it looking like new. It's hard to tell color in photos. I believe the pictures of the second one were taken with flash, which could account for the lighter color it appears. It doesn't appear to be dark enough to be mahogany but you can't really tell in a photo. It could be the same color as the third one. Neither are tan IMO. I believe a shoe repair store could fix the tear in the third one.

Thanks so much for these! The first one seems out of my league. I really appreciate your advice! Thank you again!

 

[Jacynthe]

Dear authenticators, request to authenticate please. Thank you!

Item: Ergo? 9293
Where purchased or how obtained: thrift store
Comments: dimensions are 9 inches height, 13 inches width and maybe 3 inches depth.

 

[BeenBurned]

Item: red and white vintage Coach crossbody
Seller: thebluellama
Link: https://posh.mk/62aZ7yH5X7
Comment: I am not comfortable with the shape of the o in No. Is this normal for this style?

Look how squished the "Coach" name is and how close the 0 (year) is to the M.

I'm sure it's fake.

Can you request a picture of the back of the female side of the turnlock to clinch it?

I'm not comfortable with the Coach logo either, the font looks "off". I only have one other 2000 "M" code set of photos in my files, for a 9135 Hippie Flap Bag, and it's been wearing a "Questionable" title since I first saved it. The Court Spectator logo looks even wonkier.

Give me a few minutes to get the photos up and then we'll throw it up for grabs. If it was just up to me I probably woulden't report it but I wouldn't buy it either. And it would be nice to have a few photos of details like the back of the turnlock. The bright red fabric backing on the inside zipper is a bit odd too.

Other opinions are welcome, photos coming up in a few minutes

Seller uploaded the photo of the back of the oval piece. It's not good. There are indentations under the prongs.

LOL! Reporting to Poshmark? Silly lady! Are you forgetting which site we're talking about ?!?!?

Not good is right.

Not that it matters but it also doesn't appear to have the correct padding on the sides of the handle. It looks flat:
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Then I don't need to post pics. But I'll do the creed pics anyway just in case anyone wants them.

ASSUME ALL THESE "*0M-" SERIAL PREFIXES ARE FAKES

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The barely-visible end of the strap that goes through the buckle on the fake looks like it's square, not round. Here's a real one:

Vtg Coach 6870 SPECTATOR COURT Crossbody Navy Blue White Leather Satchel VGUC* | eBay

ALSO, PREVIOUS OWNER ADDED AN EXTRA HOLE IN THE SHOULDER STRAP(SEE PHOTOS). CLEAN INTERIOR AND POCKETS WITH LIGHT NORMAL WEAR, BUT NOT REALLY ANY NOTICEABLE STAINS OR INK MARKS(SEE PHOTOS).

www.ebay.com

And another fake:

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The more you look, the more little problems you find.

While doing a search for another post (where we were accused of "erring" on our authentication), I came across this post from July 8.

At the time, the seller thebluellama had a fake Spectator Court bag.

Note that the POS has been relisted, this time with an authenticity disclaimer of sorts as "copy."

COPY - Red & White Vintage Coach crossbody bag

Shop thebluellama's closet or find the perfect look from millions of stylists. Fast shipping and buyer protection. Red & White Vintage Coach crossbody bag. Never used. Won at estate sale. Accepting all offers. Measurements provided upon request.

poshmark.com

And both "Dooneys" in this listing (sold) are fake.

Vintage Dooney & Bourke bundle.

Shop thebluellama's closet or find the perfect look from millions of stylists. Fast shipping and buyer protection. Vintage Dooney & Bourke bundle. Not sure about the age of bags and the front latches are broken but if you know how to have them repaired it’s a good deal. Giving away to thrift...

poshmark.com

Beware of Poshmark seller:
The blue llama
@thebluellama

 

[BeenBurned]

Dear authenticators, request to authenticate please. Thank you!

Item: Ergo? 9293
Where purchased or how obtained: thrift store
Comments: dimensions are 9 inches height, 13 inches width and maybe 3 inches depth.
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It's fine, made in 2002.

 

[Jacynthe]

It's fine, made in 2002.

Thank you BeenBurned!

 

[Jacynthe]

Dear authenticators, request to authenticate please. Thank you!
Item: Green suede F10919, I was unable to find the name.
Where purchased or how obtained: thrift store
Comments: dimensions are about 8 inches height, 12 inches width, 5 inches depth.

 

[Roro]

So, nursing a backache I was laying down mid-afternoon. What does one do then? Scroll ebay, of course. I have been seeing these large ergo bags from time to time and I remember them in the stores. I made an offer on one maybe not so well-listed and had the offer accepted literally a minute later. That all being said, I'm pleased I can ask for an authentication prior to paying. Buying this on my phone, I hope I actually saw what I thought I saw:

vintage coach black leather shoulder bag

vintage coach black leather shoulder bag | eBay

<p>vintage coach black leather shoulder bag. Condition is Pre-owned. Shipped with USPS Priority Mail. Vintage black leather coach bag....measurements are 15” wide...13 1/2” tall at center... 2” deep....strap drop 12 1/2”. Great bag...shows very little wear...leather great shape.</p>

www.ebay.com

item number:
133506959385
Seller: karen8149

 

[whateve]

So, nursing a backache I was laying down mid-afternoon. What does one do then? Scroll ebay, of course. I have been seeing these large ergo bags from time to time and I remember them in the stores. I made an offer on one maybe not so well-listed and had the offer accepted literally a minute later. That all being said, I'm pleased I can ask for an authentication prior to paying. Buying this on my phone, I hope I actually saw what I thought I saw:

vintage coach black leather shoulder bag

vintage coach black leather shoulder bag | eBay

<p>vintage coach black leather shoulder bag. Condition is Pre-owned. Shipped with USPS Priority Mail. Vintage black leather coach bag....measurements are 15” wide...13 1/2” tall at center... 2” deep....strap drop 12 1/2”. Great bag...shows very little wear...leather great shape.</p>

www.ebay.com

item number:
133506959385
Seller: karen8149

I'm sorry, it's fake. Cancel your purchase.

 

[whateve]

Dear authenticators, request to authenticate please. Thank you!
Item: Green suede F10919, I was unable to find the name.
Where purchased or how obtained: thrift store
Comments: dimensions are about 8 inches height, 12 inches width, 5 inches depth.
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I don't know the name but it appears authentic.