Authenticate This COACH - **see first post for format**

[Vlad]

IMPORTANT READ-ME

Please post authenticity questions related to COACH in this thread. No PMs please.
For further information, please refer to the first post on page 1 of this thread.

Please follow the following requests:

• Before you submit a request for authentication, please search this thread to make sure that the item has not previously been authenticated by searching the seller ID and/or item number. This is not a thread to ask general questions about COACH, please refer to our main Coach forum for such information.
• Note that authenticators have the right to refuse any requests. This is a free service, but it is imperative that you help our authenticators by using the following format:
• FOR ITEMS LISTED ONLINE:
  Item:
  Listing number:
  Seller and site where listed
  Link:
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• FOR ITEMS NOT LISTED ONLINE:
  Item:
  Where purchased or how obtained
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BASIC PICTURES REQUIRED (but more may be requested): If necessary pictures are in the listing, it's not necessary to upload and duplicate them.

• Front of item
• Back of item
• Full clear and legible creed text and serial number
• Made in tags (when available)
• Measurements
• For bags with turnlock closures, show pictures of back of female side of turnlock
• For bags with magnetic snaps, show pictures of the male part of the snap so that the numbers and letters on it can be read
• If applicable, search interior of bag and/or pockets for small white tag with production information and include a picture of that.

Thank you and be safe!

 

[Hyacinth]

Frugalista fashionista / navywife123 probably thinks we'll forget about her and when she's "back from vacation" on January 1, she'll probably relist the bag that was returned as fake.

To paraphrase a certain Wascally Wabbit - "she don't know us vewy well, do she?"

 

[Hyacinth]

Is that the lunch bag in her store? For some reason my browser wont let me open any any links with rover. I so want to see them so I can learn.

Try this:
https://www.ebay.com/itm/274057165176?ul_noapp=true

It should be the same as this one in the earlier post:
https://rover.ebay.com/rover/0/0/0?mpre=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.ebay.com%2Fulk%2Fitm%2F274057165176

 

[Narnanz]

Try this:
https://www.ebay.com/itm/274057165176?ul_noapp=true

It should be the same as this one in the earlier post:
https://rover.ebay.com/rover/0/0/0?mpre=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.ebay.com%2Fulk%2Fitm%2F274057165176

Thank you...so it was the lunch box. I dont really know the style at all so wouldnt know what was wrong with it. But is the shoulder strap not right and the zipper ring wrong?
Will have to try and sort out why my browser just closes the rover links.

 

[kwomble_2001]

Frugalista fashionista / navywife123 probably thinks we'll forget about her and when she's "back from vacation" on January 1, she'll probably relist the bag that was returned as fake.

Frugalista fashionista / navywife123 probably thinks we'll forget about her and when she's "back from vacation" on January 1, she'll probably relist the bag that was returned as fake.

We will never forget her, and to think she tried to switch roles and play the victim.

 

[Hyacinth]

Thank you...so it was the lunch box. I dont really know the style at all so wouldnt know what was wrong with it. But is the shoulder strap not right and the zipper ring wrong?
Will have to try and sort out why my browser just closes the rover links.

The main thing I noticed was the incorrect font used for the "No" in the G6B-9991 serial number. Here's a different fake with the same plant and year code and the same too-big "o" in "No". The near-breaks at the tops of both Cs in the Coach logo above the creed are also the same, while the "1"s in the style numbers between real and fake are different:


The bag being questioned:


Compare them to a genuine *6B- serial prefix:



The only problem I see with the zipper ring is that the leather pull tab is missing on the fake, which doesn't prove anything. The long strap and strap hardware are different, but unexplainable differences in the creeds and serial numbers are always the best proof because those are elements that are integral and unchangeable parts of the bag. Things like straps, hangtags, etc are easily changed.

ETA - As for your browser closing the rover.ebay links - when I click on that rover. ebay link my Firefox browser is redirected to the shorter www .ebay. com URL that's in my post, that's where I got that URL Maybe your browser sees it as a potentially dangerous redirect that might be taking you to a spoof website. That's just a guess, I haven't noticed any problems similar to that before now. Someone with a stronger background in Computer security may have a better explanation.

 

[BeenBurned]

Item: Vtg Coach crossbody
Link: https://rover.ebay.com/rover/0/0/0?mpre=https://www.ebay.com/ulk/itm/274057165176
Seller: vintagealleyverona

Fake

Is that the lunch bag in her store? For some reason my browser wont let me open any any links with rover. I so want to see them so I can learn.

Try this:
https://www.ebay.com/itm/274057165176?ul_noapp=true

It should be the same as this one in the earlier post:
https://rover.ebay.com/rover/0/0/0?mpre=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.ebay.com%2Fulk%2Fitm%2F274057165176

Sheesh! It looks like vintagealleyverona learned the bag was fake and ended the first listing early because "the item is no longer available."

This was the first listing: https://www.ebay.com/itm/VTG-COACH-...=true&nordt=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557
She too must have thought we'd forget about her because she relisted!
And this is the relisted item: https://www.ebay.com/itm/VTG-COACH-...165176?hash=item3fcf147978:g:lrYAAOSw0Lldp4BA

 

[Narnanz]

The main thing I noticed was the incorrect font used for the "No" in the G6B-9991 serial number. Here's a different fake with the same plant and year code and the same too-big "o" in "No". The near-breaks at the tops of both Cs in the Coach logo above the creed are also the same, while the "1"s in the style numbers between real and fake are different:
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The bag being questioned:
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Compare them to a genuine *6B- serial prefix:
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Thank you @Hyacinth ...that was very clearly put.

 

[WishingonaCoach]

At your convenience please, thank you.
Items: Coach brass charm Daypack and Waverly Bag
Link: https://www.ebay.com/itm/Coach-Bras...M8TYLhnd8c%3D&orig_cvip=true&nordt=true&rt=nc
Listing: 133201038582
Seller: stevan01
Comments: I saw a very cute Duffle Sac charm on a vintage Coach and decided to search for some. I got a brand new in the box Station Bag, later I found the Duffle Sac, and finally I found a seller that had the last two, so I bought them. Now that I have them all together, I see the difference on the last two, as the rings are smaller and the chains longer. I am not sure if these are real, or at the time were also faked, I normally do not pay attention to charms that much.

 

[houseof999]

Sheesh! It looks like vintagealleyverona learned the bag was fake and ended the first listing early because "the item is no longer available."

This was the first listing: https://www.ebay.com/itm/VTG-COACH-Brown-LEATHER-LUNCH-BOX-BAG-CROSSBODY-PURSE-9991-/274055068437?nma=true&si=sNUv8e3q9PbmQFMXI1T0OcJK4%3D&orig_cvip=true&nordt=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557
She too must have thought we'd forget about her because she relisted!
And this is the relisted item: https://www.ebay.com/itm/VTG-COACH-...165176?hash=item3fcf147978:g:lrYAAOSw0Lldp4BA

It's already gone.

 

[BeenBurned]

The main thing I noticed was the incorrect font used for the "No" in the G6B-9991 serial number. Here's a different fake with the same plant and year code and the same too-big "o" in "No". The near-breaks at the tops of both Cs in the Coach logo above the creed are also the same, while the "1"s in the style numbers between real and fake are different:
View attachment 4568325

The bag being questioned:
View attachment 4568329

Compare them to a genuine *6B- serial prefix:
View attachment 4568330

Another problem with the fakes is that they have a border around the outside of the creeds, most visible across the top.


And here's a comparison of identical serial numbers, the one on the left from vintagealleyverona 's fake and the other from an authentic bag.

 

[Hyacinth]

Thank you @Hyacinth ...that was very clearly put.

I added a few more things to my reply. Sorry, I have a habit of continually adding bits and pieces as I find them. No post is ever finished until the Edit window closes.

 

[BeenBurned]

I don't know why the pictures with the fakes showed up twice. And I can't edit to get rid of the second.

 

[BeenBurned]

I added a few more things to my reply. Sorry, I have a habit of continually adding bits and pieces as I find them. No post is ever finished until the Edit window closes.

Same here!

 

[BeenBurned]

At your convenience please, thank you.
Items: Coach brass charm Daypack and Waverly Bag
Link: https://www.ebay.com/itm/Coach-Brass-Waverly-Bag-and-the-Day-Vintage-Key-Ring-Keychain-Key-Fob-Pre-Owned-/133201038582?_trksid=p2047675.l2557&ssPageName=STRK:MEBIDX:IT&nma=true&si=f%2BG87D3mLaMBsxW2AM8TYLhnd8c%3D&orig_cvip=true&nordt=true&rt=nc
Listing: 133201038582
Seller: stevan01
Comments: I saw a very cute Duffle Sac charm on a vintage Coach and decided to search for some. I got a brand new in the box Station Bag, later I found the Duffle Sac, and finally I found a seller that had the last two, so I bought them. Now that I have them all together, I see the difference on the last two, as the rings are smaller and the chains longer. I am not sure if these are real, or at the time were also faked, I normally do not pay attention to charms that much.

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It looks fine. The seller seems to have the set.

A couple of weeks ago, the seller had 7 different listings, all for the station bag fob, all with the same pictures and claimed to have 7 of them. Ebay considered them to be duplicate listings and they were removed. (I find it hard to believe that he would have had 7 of them anyway.)

My concern with the seller is that some or all of the pictures may not be his/her own.

Backgrounds in listings are different and the catalog picture (with the brass daypack) was stolen from this seller's listing.

If you're the winner, I'd request a picture of the keychain with a piece of paper on which the seller has written his ID.

 

[Hyacinth]

At your convenience please, thank you.
Items: Coach brass charm Daypack and Waverly Bag
Link: https://www.ebay.com/itm/Coach-Brass-Waverly-Bag-and-the-Day-Vintage-Key-Ring-Keychain-Key-Fob-Pre-Owned-/133201038582?_trksid=p2047675.l2557&ssPageName=STRK:MEBIDX:IT&nma=true&si=f%2BG87D3mLaMBsxW2AM8TYLhnd8c%3D&orig_cvip=true&nordt=true&rt=nc
Listing: 133201038582
Seller: stevan01
Comments: I saw a very cute Duffle Sac charm on a vintage Coach and decided to search for some. I got a brand new in the box Station Bag, later I found the Duffle Sac, and finally I found a seller that had the last two, so I bought them. Now that I have them all together, I see the difference on the last two, as the rings are smaller and the chains longer. I am not sure if these are real, or at the time were also faked, I normally do not pay attention to charms that much.

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I don't think it's a problem.