Authenticate This COACH - **see first post for format**

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Please post authenticity questions related to COACH in this thread. No PMs please.
For further information, please refer to the first post on page 1 of this thread.

Please follow the following requests:
  • Before you submit a request for authentication, please search this thread to make sure that the item has not previously been authenticated by searching the seller ID and/or item number. This is not a thread to ask general questions about COACH, please refer to our main Coach forum for such information.
  • Note that authenticators have the right to refuse any requests. This is a free service, but it is imperative that you help our authenticators by using the following format:
  • FOR ITEMS LISTED ONLINE:
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    Listing number:
    Seller and site where listed
    Link:
    Comments:

  • FOR ITEMS NOT LISTED ONLINE:
    Item:
    Where purchased or how obtained
    Comments:
BASIC PICTURES REQUIRED (but more may be requested): If necessary pictures are in the listing, it's not necessary to upload and duplicate them.
  • Front of item
  • Back of item
  • Full clear and legible creed text and serial number
  • Made in tags (when available)
  • Measurements
  • For bags with turnlock closures, show pictures of back of female side of turnlock
  • For bags with magnetic snaps, show pictures of the male part of the snap so that the numbers and letters on it can be read
  • If applicable, search interior of bag and/or pockets for small white tag with production information and include a picture of that.
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Thank you for replying so fast, and for the tips.

I submitted the evidence along with an export of the chat from this community and the coach guide, and Poshmark approved my request for a refund. All is well now in the world of vintage coach.

ALthough navywife123 (Frugalista fashionista) showed a different creed picture (found on the internet) from a fake bag, the creed (and the bag you received) is also fake!

Again, refer her here is she argues.[/QUOTE
 
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In my experience, ebay has been the safest bidding platform to use. I bought a fake bag once and ebay took care of everything, I never had to deal with the seller. It's our responsibility as buyers to look at photos carefully and ask any questions before bidding as far as the condition of the bag is concerned. But if there is undisclosed damage or the bag turns out to be fake, ebay is very supportive of its buyers. Also, most if not all vintage bags are sold "as is" but many of the minor issues common on vintage bags can be easily fixed with a bath and conditioning. I always check auction photos for damaged leather, broken non-replaceable hardware, and stains. Those are hard problems to fix and I won't buy those bags. But normal wear from years of use (light scratches, mild discoloration of edges) often improves with a bath and conditioning.

Another thing to watch for is chopped down or shortened shoulder straps. Coach was a bit slow in adjusting to the changing fashion in "shoulder bags" which back when I was coming into the job market in the early 1970s meant a bag with a long strap, at least 30-35 inches, that let the bag be carried on one shoulder and drop straight down to the hip. Many Coaches from before 1980 had that type of strap, which is why Coach started making shorter 36-inch removable straps (and vice versa) available as an option around that time

When the fashion changed to shorter straps with the bag worn tucked close in to the body and above the waist (what I call "pit bags" :biggrin: ), a lot of people with older bags and their longer straps either punched extra holes in their straps or all too often just cut the straps down. Some had a professional do it, others did it themselves with disastrous results. With vintage bags it's always important to take a good look at the strap including the "point" end and the ends attached to the bag to look for signs of modification.
 
Thanks for responding.

I received the bag yesterday, and the bag that I received has a different creed number than posted in the listing. I’m hoping I’ve captured the right pictures.
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That's why I asked for photos of those specific areas. The "solid brass" stamp on the buckles would not have been found on any bag from the time period the Patricia's Legacy style was made, and the inside pocket zipper is too short. I'm surprised (or maybe NOT surprised considering her "switch" of the creed photos), that she wouldn't have shown photos of one or both of those details in her original photos. Too many coincidences, IMHO.

A "solid brass" buckle wouldn't have had the brass coating coming off in chunks either.

I can't recommend buying from Poshmark seller " navywife123 " especially considering her nasty and threatening comments to a buyer with a LEGITIMATE issue about a "Coach" with a fake serial number. And even moreso because the bag she was selling was also a fake which could have been discovered by a simple Google search of the serial number.
 
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That's why I asked for photos of those specific areas. The "solid brass" stamp on the buckles would not have been found on any bag from the time period the Patricia's Legacy style was made, and the inside pocket zipper is too short. I'm surprised (or maybe NOT surprised considering her "switch" of the creed photos), that she wouldn't have shown photos of one or both of those details in her original photos. Too many coincidences, IMHO.

A "solid brass" buckle wouldn't have had the brass coating coming off in chunks either.

I can't recommend buying from Poshmark seller " navywife123 " especially considering her nasty and threatening comments to a buyer with a LEGITIMATE issue about a "Coach" with a fake serial number. And even moreso because the bag she was selling was also a fake which could have been discovered by a simple Google search of the serial number.

I just saw that she has her store shut down until December 31st for “vacation.”
 
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