Authenticate This COACH - **see first post for format**

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Hi! Please forgive me if I am not following the correct process - hoping I am doing things correctly.
I just purchased a bag on Poshmark to replace the one that was stolen from my car - was my favorite bag!
I have a short window of time to accept the delivery so just wondering if someone can help me authenticate it for me I would be very grateful.
Item: Coach Willow Floral Nomad Hobo - Grey Birch 55543
https://poshmark.com/listing/Coach-Willow-Floral-Nomad-Hobo-5c9657eb3e0caa6457e4e995

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It's not necessary to repeat your entire post, just either use the REPLY button in your original post to ask for someone to look at it, or post the link of the original post. We only have one person who does both Poshmark and newer bags at the moment so please wait for her to look at it.

There's one detail in your original post that wasn't repeated in this one that makes me 99.9 percent sure that the bag is genuine since it's been an infallible indicator of authenticity on older bags, but I'm not an expert on newer bags. I'd suggest accepting the delivery and if we later determine that it's fake you still have time to get a refund, although Poshmark is probably the worst major site on the internet to try and get a refund from if something's fake.
Original post and photos:
https://forum.purseblog.com/threads...ost-for-format.889527/page-2705#post-33324425
That part in red as well as the fact that Poshmark is THE MOST unresponsive sites when it comes to the removal of fakes in response to reports are just 2 of the reasons why I recommend against Poshmark and (most of the time) won't authenticate items from the site.

Thank you so much for your response and insight into the proper protocols for posting - I truly appreciate your time!!! I will wait for the authenticator you mentioned to take a look but in the meantime will accept the bag.
I'm not that authenticator but I think she's on vacation so I will authenticate.

The bag looks fine to me. (But if there's another site on which you can find items, I think you should spend your money elsewhere. JMHO.)
 

1- Genuine, but be sure to read the description. Exterior discoloration especially on white Coach leather can be very hard if not impossible to improve. I'm also concerned that a previous owner may have tried already and created more problems

2- At least one of the tan ones is genuine but I can't tell which tan bag the single creed photo belongs to. And since there are NO creed photos of the other 2 bags there's no way to authenticate them. We don't recommend buying any bags, vintage or otherwise, without clear readable photos of the creed and serial numbers, especially from a site like Goodwill which has sold many many many fakes that have been pointed out here.
 

I HOPE you're not the buyer. If you are, either don't pay, or insist on a full refund once you get the bag.

Not only is there no serial number on the creed - it may have just been omitted or maybe it wore off or was deliberately scratched off by a seller - but the round brass pull tab with the stamped Coach logo has NEVER been used by Coach in any classic or vintage bags. Coach never used a similar design until the Poppy line which was about 20 years after this fake's style was even made. Any time you see a zipper pull like this anywhere in or on a classic or vintage Coach, or ANY zipper pull in a pre-2000 bag with the Coach name on it EXCEPT FOR SONOMA, Hudson and one or two other similar lines that use a metal hangtag as the zipper pull, RUN LIKE HELL.
zipper pull FAKE w Coach logo_ niftynookdeals-9-2019-a.jpg

ETA - Here's a thumbnail of the bag itself. Without the zipper pull and if it had a serial number it might be a decent copy of a Dover Bag from the early 1990s, except for the zipper pull.

Just to play Devil's Advocate for a second - if there's any chance that the seller niftynookdeals or an earlier owner replaced the original zipper or zipper pull with this one (the gold or brass color is suspiciously bright), that was an extremely foolish thing to do. But anything is possible. However, the evidence, in this case a simple zipper pull, has to be acted on.
zipper pull FAKE w Coach logo_ niftynookdeals-9-2019-b.jpg
 
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That part in red as well as the fact that Poshmark is THE MOST unresponsive sites when it comes to the removal of fakes in response to reports are just 2 of the reasons why I recommend against Poshmark and (most of the time) won't authenticate items from the site.


I'm not that authenticator but I think she's on vacation so I will authenticate.

The bag looks fine to me. (But if there's another site on which you can find items, I think you should spend your money elsewhere. JMHO.)

Thanks, BB! :flowers:
 
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I HOPE you're not the buyer. If you are, either don't pay, or insist on a full refund once you get the bag.

Not only is there no serial number on the creed - it may have just been omitted or maybe deliberately scratched off by a seller - but the round brass pull tab with the stamped Coach logo has NEVER been used by Coach in any classic or vintage bags. Coach never used a similar design until the Poppy line which was about 20 years after this fake's style was even made. Any time you see a zipper pull like this anywhere in or on a classic or vintage Coach, or ANY zipper pull in a pre-2000 bag with the Coach name on it EXCEPT FOR SONOMA, Hudson and one or two other similar lines that use a metal hangtag as the zipper pull, RUN LIKE HELL.
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ETA - Here's a thumbnail of the bag itself. Without the zipper pull and if it had a serial number it might be a decent copy of a Dover Bag from the early 1990s, except for the zipper pull.

Just to play Devil's Advocate for a second - if there's any chance that the seller niftynookdeals or an earlier owner replaced the original zipper or zipper pull with this one (the gold or brass color is suspiciously bright), that was an extremely foolish thing to do. But anything is possible. However, the evidence, in this case a simple zipper pull, has to be acted on.
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Thank you. Great information.
 
1- Genuine, but be sure to read the description. Exterior discoloration especially on white Coach leather can be very hard if not impossible to improve. I'm also concerned that a previous owner may have tried already and created more problems

2- At least one of the tan ones is genuine but I can't tell which tan bag the single creed photo belongs to. And since there are NO creed photos of the other 2 bags there's no way to authenticate them. We don't recommend buying any bags, vintage or otherwise, without clear readable photos of the creed and serial numbers, especially from a site like Goodwill which has sold many many many fakes that have been pointed out here.

Thanks for responding with such helpful info. I'm glad that I found this website!
 

I HOPE you're not the buyer. If you are, either don't pay, or insist on a full refund once you get the bag.

Not only is there no serial number on the creed - it may have just been omitted or maybe it wore off or was deliberately scratched off by a seller - but the round brass pull tab with the stamped Coach logo has NEVER been used by Coach in any classic or vintage bags. Coach never used a similar design until the Poppy line which was about 20 years after this fake's style was even made. Any time you see a zipper pull like this anywhere in or on a classic or vintage Coach, or ANY zipper pull in a pre-2000 bag with the Coach name on it EXCEPT FOR SONOMA, Hudson and one or two other similar lines that use a metal hangtag as the zipper pull, RUN LIKE HELL.
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ETA - Here's a thumbnail of the bag itself. Without the zipper pull and if it had a serial number it might be a decent copy of a Dover Bag from the early 1990s, except for the zipper pull.

Just to play Devil's Advocate for a second - if there's any chance that the seller niftynookdeals or an earlier owner replaced the original zipper or zipper pull with this one (the gold or brass color is suspiciously bright), that was an extremely foolish thing to do. But anything is possible. However, the evidence, in this case a simple zipper pull, has to be acted on.
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Did you happen to notice that she already sold that bag previously on September 3? I wonder what happened with that sale. It was a BIN so I wonder if the buyer found out it was fake.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-Co...=true&nordt=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557
 
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