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Please post authenticity questions related to COACH in this thread. No PMs please.
For further information, please refer to the first post on page 1 of this thread.

Please follow the following requests:
  • Before you submit a request for authentication, please search this thread to make sure that the item has not previously been authenticated by searching the seller ID and/or item number. This is not a thread to ask general questions about COACH, please refer to our main Coach forum for such information.
  • Note that authenticators have the right to refuse any requests. This is a free service, but it is imperative that you help our authenticators by using the following format:
  • FOR ITEMS LISTED ONLINE:
    Item:
    Listing number:
    Seller and site where listed
    Link:
    Comments:

  • FOR ITEMS NOT LISTED ONLINE:
    Item:
    Where purchased or how obtained
    Comments:
BASIC PICTURES REQUIRED (but more may be requested): If necessary pictures are in the listing, it's not necessary to upload and duplicate them.
  • Front of item
  • Back of item
  • Full clear and legible creed text and serial number
  • Made in tags (when available)
  • Measurements
  • For bags with turnlock closures, show pictures of back of female side of turnlock
  • For bags with magnetic snaps, show pictures of the male part of the snap so that the numbers and letters on it can be read
  • If applicable, search interior of bag and/or pockets for small white tag with production information and include a picture of that.
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jillhives said:
Eyeing a couple more Willis :smile:
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Item: Gray Willis
Link: https://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-CO...essenger-Satchel-Purse-Bag-9927/163727409556?
Seller: https://www.ebay.com/usr/house_of_pinecone
Comments: G8C-9927, silver hardware. If it's authentic, was it made in 1998?
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Item: Brown Willis
Link: https://www.ebay.com/itm/333232813718?ViewItem=&item=333232813718
Seller: https://www.ebay.com/usr/station_85
Comments: I requested an image of creed, will add as soon as I receive it. Just wondering if there are any red flags from the existing images.
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The first is authentic.

I'm not comfortable with the second listing. The seller has a long history of not honestly describing and disclosing issues, listing fakes (knowingly or not) and not including pictures of necessary details that would allow us to authenticate.

In this listing in question, there's no creed picture and the front closure shows a potential red flag often seen in fakes.

If the seller can't learn from previous errors as well as include the right pictures, I'd hit the back button.

Feedback is enlightening too.
http://toolhaus.org/cgi-bin/negs?User=station_85&Dirn=Received+by&ref=home
 
#38,027
Please authenticate when possible.
This bag was purchased in February or March 2019. I purchased this bag through shopgoodwill. Com. I recently came across a thread on TPF about Goodwill selling fakes even though they claim their bags are authentic and use a service

Brown Stewardess Bag

Approximately
10"H
10 1/2" W
4" D


Thank you so much for the information everyone shares on this site
 

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#38,028
Hi! Can you please authenticate for me? Thx!!
Item: unsure of name, bucket bag?
Listing number: na
Seller: Valley Thrift Store
Link: na
Comments: can you please also include name of bag, if authenticate also, can’t figure out why creed posted 2 copies at end of post...
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QUOTE="greenpixie, post: 27792584, member: 29980"]AUTHENTICATE This COACH

Please post authenticity questions related to COACH in this thread.

Note: The PurseForum requests that only members with an extensive knowledge of the brand and authenticating who have over 500 posts participate as authenticators in this AT thread. The moderators reserve the right to remove authentications that do not meet these requirements.


Please follow the following rules:


  • Before you submit a request for authentication, please search this thread to make sure that the item has not previously been authenticated. This is not a thread to ask general questions about COACH, please refer to our main Coach forum for such information.
  • This is a free service, but it is imperative that you help our authenticators by using the following format:

    Item:
    Listing number:
    Seller:
    Link:
    Comments:


  • If the bag in question is not on an auction site, please use the following:

    Item Name (if you know it):
    Link (if available):
    Then attach any photos (all authentication must include photos.)
    • Please be sure to include a clear readable photo of the creed stamp and serial number from inside the bag or accessory if there is one, and the bag's measurements when the bag is an older or vintage leather Coach.
    • Since mid-2014, Coach stopped putting serial numbers on creeds so in newer bags where the creeds don't have serial numbers, we also need to see pictures of the labels/tags from inside the bag. They are either both in the main open part sewn into the seam of the lining, or one might be buried deep inside the zipper pocket. One shows where made and the other has a serial number.
  • Authenticators are not required to answer every request and it is their right to ignore a request that is not in the proper format.
  • Please note that comments on price and condition are NOT permitted.
  • Do NOT PM an authenticator or moderator to request authentication. Any and all such requests should be posted in this thread.
  • Should one of your items be questioned in this thread, you are welcome to provide additional pictures or materials supporting its authenticity.
  • Do not handle your disputes with other members in this thread but take your differences to Private Messages. Failure to do so can result in banning.
  • Please utilize the "Quote" feature when responding directly to another post.

Disclaimer

All Authenticate This threads on tPF are meant to provide assistance to shoppers who are uncertain about the legitimacy and authenticity of designer goods. The evaluations posted by tPF's members are only opinions that stem from personal experiences as shoppers and collectors. They are not legally binding or professional authentications and are not to be treated as such.

For questions or suggestions, please do not hesitate to contact the forum administration via the forum's contact form: http://forum.purseblog.com/sendmessage.php.[/QUOTE]
 
#38,029
Hi! I’m having some luck today thrifting... at least I hope it’s good luck. Can you please authenticate this bag also-final for today.
Item: slim flap saddle?
Listing number: na
Seller: Valley Thrift Store
Link: na
Comments: Thanks!

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greenpixie said:
AUTHENTICATE This COACH

Please post authenticity questions related to COACH in this thread.

Note: The PurseForum requests that only members with an extensive knowledge of the brand and authenticating who have over 500 posts participate as authenticators in this AT thread. The moderators reserve the right to remove authentications that do not meet these requirements.


Please follow the following rules:


  • Before you submit a request for authentication, please search this thread to make sure that the item has not previously been authenticated. This is not a thread to ask general questions about COACH, please refer to our main Coach forum for such information.
  • This is a free service, but it is imperative that you help our authenticators by using the following format:

    Item:
    Listing number:
    Seller:
    Link:
    Comments:


  • If the bag in question is not on an auction site, please use the following:

    Item Name (if you know it):
    Link (if available):
    Then attach any photos (all authentication must include photos.)
    • Please be sure to include a clear readable photo of the creed stamp and serial number from inside the bag or accessory if there is one, and the bag's measurements when the bag is an older or vintage leather Coach.
    • Since mid-2014, Coach stopped putting serial numbers on creeds so in newer bags where the creeds don't have serial numbers, we also need to see pictures of the labels/tags from inside the bag. They are either both in the main open part sewn into the seam of the lining, or one might be buried deep inside the zipper pocket. One shows where made and the other has a serial number.
  • Authenticators are not required to answer every request and it is their right to ignore a request that is not in the proper format.
  • Please note that comments on price and condition are NOT permitted.
  • Do NOT PM an authenticator or moderator to request authentication. Any and all such requests should be posted in this thread.
  • Should one of your items be questioned in this thread, you are welcome to provide additional pictures or materials supporting its authenticity.
  • Do not handle your disputes with other members in this thread but take your differences to Private Messages. Failure to do so can result in banning.
  • Please utilize the "Quote" feature when responding directly to another post.

Disclaimer

All Authenticate This threads on tPF are meant to provide assistance to shoppers who are uncertain about the legitimacy and authenticity of designer goods. The evaluations posted by tPF's members are only opinions that stem from personal experiences as shoppers and collectors. They are not legally binding or professional authentications and are not to be treated as such.

For questions or suggestions, please do not hesitate to contact the forum administration via the forum's contact form: http://forum.purseblog.com/sendmessage.php.
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#38,030
Here's creed image for Brown Willis listed below

jillhives said:
Eyeing a couple more Willis :smile:
_______
Item: Gray Willis
Link: https://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-CO...essenger-Satchel-Purse-Bag-9927/163727409556?
Seller: https://www.ebay.com/usr/house_of_pinecone
Comments: G8C-9927, silver hardware. If it's authentic, was it made in 1998?
______
Item: Brown Willis
Link: https://www.ebay.com/itm/333232813718?ViewItem=&item=333232813718
Seller: https://www.ebay.com/usr/station_85
Comments: I requested an image of creed, will add as soon as I receive it. Just wondering if there are any red flags from the existing images.
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#38,031
jillhives said:
Eyeing a couple more Willis :smile:

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Item: Brown Willis
Link: https://www.ebay.com/itm/333232813718?ViewItem=&item=333232813718
Seller: https://www.ebay.com/usr/station_85
Comments: I requested an image of creed, will add as soon as I receive it. Just wondering if there are any red flags from the existing images.
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BeenBurned said:
I'm not comfortable with the second listing. The seller has a long history of not honestly describing and disclosing issues, listing fakes (knowingly or not) and not including pictures of necessary details that would allow us to authenticate.

In this listing in question, there's no creed picture and the front closure shows a potential red flag often seen in fakes.

If the seller can't learn from previous errors as well as include the right pictures, I'd hit the back button.

Feedback is enlightening too.
http://toolhaus.org/cgi-bin/negs?User=station_85&Dirn=Received+by&ref=home
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jillhives said:
Here's creed image for Brown Willis listed below
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As suspected, the bag is fake.

Report STATION_85 's STATION 85 listing!
 
#38,032
OMG: "Purse was extremely dirty and arrived with food in it." hahahahha. That's terrible.
Thanks BeenBurned. I posted the creed image seller sent as a reply to my initial posting before I saw this response. What is the red flag you see on the front closure? Trying to learn more about identifying authenticity.

Creed for the brown willis attached here too. It looks a little sticky to me, but I'm not sure.
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BeenBurned said:
The first is authentic.

I'm not comfortable with the second listing. The seller has a long history of not honestly describing and disclosing issues, listing fakes (knowingly or not) and not including pictures of necessary details that would allow us to authenticate.

In this listing in question, there's no creed picture and the front closure shows a potential red flag often seen in fakes.

If the seller can't learn from previous errors as well as include the right pictures, I'd hit the back button.

Feedback is enlightening too.
http://toolhaus.org/cgi-bin/negs?User=station_85&Dirn=Received+by&ref=home
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#38,034
BeenBurned said:
Interesting.....I'm curious to see what @Hyacinth and/or @whateve think about that one.

I'm not authenticating; just observing:
  • The creed looks good to me. The stamping looks right and the lack of the month code appears to be an error. It looks like they didn't turn the dial on the stamper properly. (I've seen those types of legitimate errors.)
  • The bag (sort of) resembles Bedford flap, 4165 but I can't find (or recall) a style with the type of flap shown on the bag in question.
  • I considered that someone may have cut the creed from an authentic bag and sewed it into this one but I don't think that's the case. Lexington creeds aren't a patch but are stamped directly onto the pocket.
ETA: For the record, here are some pictures.

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Hyacinth said:
I think the bag may be genuine but there's no way to prove it.

It's a Soho style according to the buckle but with a striped lining, and we've seen 2 similar styles for which we only have serial numbers and photos, no catalog info. They DO have striped linings and front buckles and could belong to the same small family. The style numbers were 4191 and 4192 and both had late 1995-early 1996 serial numbers. Without a valid serial and style number there's no way to prove this one is genuine, unfortunately. Buying it to resell would NOT be a good idea.

Style 4191 may have been called either a School Tote or a Soft Kelly Bag:
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and style 4192 apparently was called a Jackie Bag. One of the lurkers here sent Salearea this message in September 2015:
"Dear salearea,
I am a lurker member of TPF ..
Would you be willing to let Hyacinth know that her reply (post #803 in the answers to AUTHENTICITY questions on page #54) is called the Soft Kelly Bag. I just found one still New with Tags. It even had the purchase receipt from Belk from 9/14/96!!!"

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It looks to me like they're closely related, the style number could be 4190 or 4193.
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Thanks to both of you!
 
#38,035
jillhives said:
Thanks BeenBurned. I posted the creed image seller sent as a reply to my initial posting before I saw this response. What is the red flag you see on the front closure? Trying to learn more about identifying authenticity.
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Although other elements are involved in accurately determining authenticity and sometimes, what can be a red flag on one item might not be one on another from a different era or factory, there are some details that indicate the item should be looked at more closely.

In this case, the red flag was the way the padding is shaped on the front of the bag. Notice how the padding follows the curve of the hardware on the authentic item but is straight across on the fake.

The following comparisons are BOTH from station_85's listings. One is the fake in question and the other is another Willis she has:
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Mustloveoldthings said:
Please authenticate when possible.
This bag was purchased in February or March 2019. I purchased this bag through shopgoodwill. Com. I recently came across a thread on TPF about Goodwill selling fakes even though they claim their bags are authentic and use a service

Brown Stewardess Bag

Approximately
10"H
10 1/2" W
4" D


Thank you so much for the information everyone shares on this site
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Please post the link to the shopgoodwill.com listing from which you purchased.
 
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