Authenticate This COACH - **see first post for format**

[Vlad]

IMPORTANT READ-ME

Please post authenticity questions related to COACH in this thread. No PMs please.
For further information, please refer to the first post on page 1 of this thread.

Please follow the following requests:

• Before you submit a request for authentication, please search this thread to make sure that the item has not previously been authenticated by searching the seller ID and/or item number. This is not a thread to ask general questions about COACH, please refer to our main Coach forum for such information.
• Note that authenticators have the right to refuse any requests. This is a free service, but it is imperative that you help our authenticators by using the following format:
• FOR ITEMS LISTED ONLINE:
  Item:
  Listing number:
  Seller and site where listed
  Link:
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• FOR ITEMS NOT LISTED ONLINE:
  Item:
  Where purchased or how obtained
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BASIC PICTURES REQUIRED (but more may be requested): If necessary pictures are in the listing, it's not necessary to upload and duplicate them.

• Front of item
• Back of item
• Full clear and legible creed text and serial number
• Made in tags (when available)
• Measurements
• For bags with turnlock closures, show pictures of back of female side of turnlock
• For bags with magnetic snaps, show pictures of the male part of the snap so that the numbers and letters on it can be read
• If applicable, search interior of bag and/or pockets for small white tag with production information and include a picture of that.

Thank you and be safe!

 

[Hyacinth]

Please authenticate when possible.
This bag was purchased in February or March 2019. I purchased this bag through shopgoodwill. Com. I recently came across a thread on TPF about Goodwill selling fakes even though they claim their bags are authentic and use a service

Brown Stewardess Bag

Approximately
10"H
10 1/2" W
4" D


Thank you so much for the information everyone shares on this site

It looks good, genuine Stewardess made in 1996

 

[sb2]

My friend came over with her chalk rogue 25 and we got to noticing a difference in her bag and mine. Were there 2 different tags for this one? An older and newer version or is one not authentic. They seem to have the same thickness and feel of leather. one is obviously more pebbled looking and both have same made in Vietnam tag inside and the edge coat is a little thicker coated on one over the other.

 

[BeenBurned]

View attachment 4462004 View attachment 4462003 View attachment 4461997 View attachment 4461996 View attachment 4461995 View attachment 4461994 My friend came over with her chalk rogue 25 and we got to noticing a difference in her bag and mine. Were there 2 different tags for this one? An older and newer version or is one not authentic. They seem to have the same thickness and feel of leather. one is obviously more pebbled looking and both have same made in Vietnam tag inside and the edge coat is a little thicker coated on one over the other.

The rogues are well-faked but so far, both look okay.

The older one (with RG-20315 on the creed) should have a white tag hidden deep inside the zipper pocket. It's hard to find and you may have to pull the pocket inside out to find it.

Please post a picture.

 

[Hyacinth]

OMG: "Purse was extremely dirty and arrived with food in it." hahahahha. That's terrible.
Thanks BeenBurned. I posted the creed image seller sent as a reply to my initial posting before I saw this response. What is the red flag you see on the front closure? Trying to learn more about identifying authenticity.

Creed for the brown willis attached here too. It looks a little sticky to me, but I'm not sure.
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Just for the record, that seller " station_85 " has a LOOOOONG history of selling poorly described (and always worse than described) and just plain fake bags. I had a problem with them way back around 2006 or 2007 and even though they supposedly changed hands and were taken over by another member of the family according to a PM I received, they STILL don't seem to care about the quality OR authenticity of what they sell. I didn't recommend them 10 years ago and I see no need to change my opinion now.

This is why the first post clearly advises members to do a Search at tPF not just for the item but also for the seller. Try isearching for "station_85" and see what you find. When I do, it shows over 200 posts mentioning that seller. Not all of them are fakes,. but the posts and replies speak for themselves.

 

[sb2]

The rogues are well-faked but so far, both look okay.

The older one (with RG-20315 on the creed) should have a white tag hidden deep inside the zipper pocket. It's hard to find and you may have to pull the pocket inside out to find it.

Please post a picture.

Thank you Beenburned. I forgot about that tag in there. Yes it is in the RG one and not in the other.

 

[Mustloveoldthings]

It looks good, genuine Stewardess made in 1996

Thank you. Have a great weekend

 

[Lake Effect]

Only if you have a strong stomach . . .
Etsy seller ProVintageGear
https://www.etsy.com/listing/707512...der-pouch-large?ref=shop_home_active_76&pro=1

 

[BeenBurned]

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Thank you Beenburned. I forgot about that tag in there. Yes it is in the RG one and not in the other.

The bag is fine.

And those two bags are the perfect examples of Coach and Coach's inconsistency.

• In 2014, Coach changed from the serial numbering we'd come to know from 1994 on to their weird creeds with "prefixes" of an abbreviation of the style name and "suffixes" that mean nothing.
• Both bags were made in 2016.
• Both bags were made in the #80 plant in Vietnam.
• Both bags are identical in color and style.

Yet:

• In July of 2016, when one bag was made, the Rogues had the meaningless RG-20315 "serial number."
• And by December, 2016, Coach reverted to the post-1993 format with the month/year/plant prefix and style number suffix.

Again, both bags are authentic.

So some time after July and before December, they changed their format.

 

[BeenBurned]

Only if you have a strong stomach . . .
Etsy seller ProVintageGear
https://www.etsy.com/listing/707512...der-pouch-large?ref=shop_home_active_76&pro=1

LOL! Did you go through his listings after I'd posted on the Hall of Shame earlier today?

I saw that bag and didn't post there (on the HOS) because the creed was illegible, but I certainly wouldn't have recommended buying it!

I will defer to @Hyacinth before posting what I really think of the bag (and of ProVintageGear)!

And although some of his bags are lovely (and authentic), I can't recommend or promote a seller who doesn't care about his reputation or buyers enough to verify the legality of his listings.

JMHO.

 

[Lake Effect]

LOL! Did you go through his listings after I'd posted on the Hall of Shame earlier today?

I saw that bag and didn't post there (on the HOS) because the creed was illegible, but I certainly wouldn't have recommended buying it!

I will defer to @Hyacinth before posting what I really think of the bag (and of ProVintageGear)!

And although some of his bags are lovely (and authentic), I can't recommend or promote a seller who doesn't care about his reputation or buyers enough to verify the legality of his listings.

JMHO.

Yes, I would really like to find out more about the turnlock orientation!

 

[annamarie123]

can someone please autheticate?
Item: No. B1369-25073
Listing number:
Seller: The Salvation Army
Link:
Comments: It is selling for $20 and from as far as I can tell it seems legit, but I'm not sure.

 

[tinabina1985]

Hi everyone. Just bought a Coach bag I'd been eyeing for a few years but was too expensive at the time haha. I bought it off Amazon and figured if it was fake I'd just return

It's a Drifter Crossbody in Mixed Leather Saddle/Li
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B06XHNZ27X/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

Sorry for the weird photo order. Couldn't figure out how to fix it

 

[Hyacinth]

LOL! Did you go through his listings after I'd posted on the Hall of Shame earlier today?

I saw that bag and didn't post there (on the HOS) because the creed was illegible, but I certainly wouldn't have recommended buying it!

I will defer to @Hyacinth before posting what I really think of the bag (and of ProVintageGear)!

And although some of his bags are lovely (and authentic), I can't recommend or promote a seller who doesn't care about his reputation or buyers enough to verify the legality of his listings.

JMHO.

Crikey, that is AWFUL. Not just the wonky turnlock, but the lock itself is off-center and the flap is lopsided. The proportions of every piece on the bag are wrong from the flap to the top handle. The Made In U.S.A. creed means it was made between 1988 and 1990, so I don't know where the seller is getting his information on the dates but it's NOT from the 60s or 70s. And although he claims it's the 5130 Shoulder Pouch Large from the 1983 catalog the Made In U.S.A creed doesn't fit that year at all. Not just the date is wrong but the proportions of the flap and the direction in which the turnlock is aligned don't match this page from the Fall 1983 catalog he's referring to.:


To move closer to the date indicated by the creed, here's the Holiday 1987 catalog pic - still different:


And why is the photo of the inside showing what looks like 2 greenish leather pieces divided by what looks like a vertical seam? The strap mounting rings are too low on the side, that size bag during the years that creed wording was used should have had a serial number, and I don't see any period after "glove tanned cowhide" on the creed. I don't have any vintage 5130s but was the front of the main compartment made of 2 different pieces? I've NEVER seen that before.

Seller photos from ProVintageGear



There's nothing right about that bag. The creed stamp is close although the point at the top of the "A" seems noticeably higher than the tops of the other letters, but the bag is fake.

 

[BeenBurned]

Hi everyone. Just bought a Coach bag I'd been eyeing for a few years but was too expensive at the time haha. I bought it off Amazon and figured if it was fake I'd just return

It's a Drifter Crossbody in Mixed Leather Saddle/Li
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B06XHNZ27X/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

Sorry for the weird photo order. Couldn't figure out how to fix it

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Had you come prior to purchasing, I wouldn't have recommended that Amazon listing or seller because the pictures shown are stock images and there's no way to know what you'll receive.

I'm assuming the pictures you've posted are images of the actual item you received.

If so, I don't see any red flags but I don't know the bag well.

Perhaps someone else has the bag and has an opinion.

 

[sb2]

The bag is fine.

And those two bags are the perfect examples of Coach and Coach's inconsistency.

• In 2014, Coach changed from the serial numbering we'd come to know from 1994 on to their weird creeds with "prefixes" of an abbreviation of the style name and "suffixes" that mean nothing.
• Both bags were made in 2016.
• Both bags were made in the #80 plant in Vietnam.
• Both bags are identical in color and style.

Yet:

• In July of 2016, when one bag was made, the Rogues had the meaningless RG-20315 "serial number."
• And by December, 2016, Coach reverted to the post-1993 format with the month/year/plant prefix and style number suffix.

Again, both bags are authentic.

So some time after July and before December, they changed their format.

Thank you so much for that. I kind of remember some of it but started questioning myself about it seeing them side by side. I’m glad I could add to side by side differences for your inventory. But thank you for putting my mind at ease.