Authenticate This COACH - **see first post for format**

[Vlad]

IMPORTANT READ-ME

Please post authenticity questions related to COACH in this thread. No PMs please.
For further information, please refer to the first post on page 1 of this thread.

Please follow the following requests:

• Before you submit a request for authentication, please search this thread to make sure that the item has not previously been authenticated by searching the seller ID and/or item number. This is not a thread to ask general questions about COACH, please refer to our main Coach forum for such information.
• Note that authenticators have the right to refuse any requests. This is a free service, but it is imperative that you help our authenticators by using the following format:
• FOR ITEMS LISTED ONLINE:
  Item:
  Listing number:
  Seller and site where listed
  Link:
  Comments:
  
  
• FOR ITEMS NOT LISTED ONLINE:
  Item:
  Where purchased or how obtained
  Comments:

BASIC PICTURES REQUIRED (but more may be requested): If necessary pictures are in the listing, it's not necessary to upload and duplicate them.

• Front of item
• Back of item
• Full clear and legible creed text and serial number
• Made in tags (when available)
• Measurements
• For bags with turnlock closures, show pictures of back of female side of turnlock
• For bags with magnetic snaps, show pictures of the male part of the snap so that the numbers and letters on it can be read
• If applicable, search interior of bag and/or pockets for small white tag with production information and include a picture of that.

Thank you and be safe!

 

[whateve]

Well, that last bag sold - could you authenticate this one?

Item: Coach brown leather mini backpack
Seller: dcicileo
Link: https://poshmark.com/listing/Coach-brown-leather-mini-backpack-5b5f615ba5d7c6839ca60f79
Thank you!

It's authentic. The seller is optimistic in the measurements. Coach's are 9 x 11 x 5.

 

[colorguardjames]

It's authentic. The seller is optimistic in the measurements. Coach's are 9 x 11 x 5.

Many thanks!

 

[TheBlonde]

The previous authentication request for one of wantisdeals 's listings was for a different bag with a different type of creed.

This listing doesn't have enough of the right pictures for us to authenticate it.

Please read post one, page one for the pictures needed. Pay special attention to the part just above the red where it refers to bags made after 2014.

My apologies BeenBurned. I misunderstood that bullet point and thought you only needed to see the tags when the creed doesn’t have the style number. I’ve requested additional photos from the seller. I appreciate your reply.

 

[BeenBurned]

Hello ladies! Could you please take a look at this bag?

Item: Brand new with tag Authentic Coach 1941 Rogue 30 black
Listing number: 113273061174
Seller: wantisdeals
Link: https://www.ebay.com/itm/Brand-new-with-tag-Authentic-Coach-1941-Rogue-30-black/113273061174
Comments: These 1st gen Rouges are hard to find, yet this seller has 2 listed. Also, they have used these photos to sell 3 others in the past 3 months. They appear 1 other time on this thread but the authentication wasn’t completed.

The previous authentication request for one of wantisdeals 's listings was for a different bag with a different type of creed.

This listing doesn't have enough of the right pictures for us to authenticate it.

Please read post one, page one for the pictures needed. Pay special attention to the part just above the red where it refers to bags made after 2014.

My apologies BeenBurned. I misunderstood that bullet point and thought you only needed to see the tags when the creed doesn’t have the style number. I’ve requested additional photos from the seller. I appreciate your reply.

The bag you've asked about doesn't have the "style number." All the Rogues (authentic and many fakes) from the timeframe of the bag you're asking about have that "RG 20315" number on the creed. That number doesn't tell us anything, isn't a style number and to date, I haven't been able to figure out what "20315" means! (RG indicates a Rogue but fake Rogues have similar creeds.)

 

[TheBlonde]

The bag you've asked about doesn't have the "style number." All the Rogues (authentic and many fakes) from the timeframe of the bag you're asking about have that "RG 20315" number on the creed. That number doesn't tell us anything, isn't a style number and to date, I haven't been able to figure out what "20315" means! (RG indicates a Rogue but fake Rogues have similar creeds.)

Oh wow! I’ve just recently fallen for the Rogue design and I didn’t realize that about the creed. Thanks for taking the time to educate me. The seller promised pictures of the tags this evening.

 

[fashionista1984]

Please help me authenticate this Coach Parker Bag. I already bought it because I didn’t think it could be faked but I’m not sure now that I got it. I noticed she’s now selling another one and has sold 8 of them. This makes me suspicious. Thank you.

Item name: COACH PARKER WITH BORDER RIVETS & SNAKESKIN DETAIL #29416 BLACK RETAIL $450
Item link: https://rover.ebay.com/rover/0/0/0?mpre=https://www.ebay.com/ulk/itm/263765847428
Seller: cstu_us_9iuv6a2
Item number: 263765847428

My photos:
Better photos:

 

[Sharon Fiffer]

Oh wow! I’ve just recently fallen for the Rogue design and I didn’t realize that about the creed. Thanks for taking the time to educate me. The seller promised pictures of the tags this evening.

 

[Sharon Fiffer]

I purchased 2 vintage leather bags that I’d love help authenticating. I’m sorry I don’t know the names. I hope this is the proper place for this request. Thanks in advance.

 

[whateve]

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Both bags are authentic. The first is a Legacy zip made in 1996. The second is a Helen's Legacy, also made in 1996.

 

[BeenBurned]

Please help me authenticate this Coach Parker Bag. I already bought it because I didn’t think it could be faked but I’m not sure now that I got it. I noticed she’s now selling another one and has sold 8 of them. This makes me suspicious. Thank you.

Item name: COACH PARKER WITH BORDER RIVETS & SNAKESKIN DETAIL #29416 BLACK RETAIL $450
Item link: https://rover.ebay.com/rover/0/0/0?mpre=https://www.ebay.com/ulk/itm/263765847428
Seller: cstu_us_9iuv6a2
Item number: 263765847428

My photos:
Better photos:

Had you come here prior to purchasing, I would have recommended finding a seller who does her own work, takes her own pictures, includes enough pictures (of the actual item) to authenticate it and one who writes her own descriptions.

In cstu_us_9iuv6a2's listings, every picture appears to be stolen from another (Japanese?) website, her description is copied too and the pictures shown in her listing aren't pictures of the bag you've received.

Additionally, your 2 pictures aren't adequate to authenticate the bag you got.

Please read post 1, page 1 for what's needed as far as pictures.

As for the style being faked, YES, it is and in fact, another member posted several days ago and has never returned with the additional pictures I requested. (I do suspect her bag is fake.) Whether this post shows the identical style or not, I'm not sure but I want to give an example of how scary the possible fakes are.

 

[fashionista1984]

Had you come here prior to purchasing, I would have recommended finding a seller who does her own work, takes her own pictures, includes enough pictures (of the actual item) to authenticate it and one who writes her own descriptions.

In cstu_us_9iuv6a2's listings, every picture appears to be stolen from another (Japanese?) website, her description is copied too and the pictures shown in her listing aren't pictures of the bag you've received.

Additionally, your 2 pictures aren't adequate to authenticate the bag you got.

Please read post 1, page 1 for what's needed as far as pictures.

As for the style being faked, YES, it is and in fact, another member posted several days ago and has never returned with the additional pictures I requested. (I do suspect her bag is fake.) Whether this post shows the identical style or not, I'm not sure but I want to give an example of how scary the possible fakes are.

I posted 34 photos. If you click on the photo there’s arrows where it lets you scroll to the left and right to see the additional photos. I apologize if that wasn’t clear. I was trying to make it convenient.

 

[Walter Dunkerley]

Authentic? Bought off shopgoodwill.com.

 

[Hyacinth]

Authentic? Bought off shopgoodwill.com.

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It SEEMS ok, but I can't find exactly the same bag for comparison. There's a version in suede that has the same details but the one being questioned has one extra vertical brass ring or attachment on each end between the two brass D-rings. The creed on the suede one also has gold-stamped lettering where this one's creed has the same script letters but without the gold but the serial number font is very different. They're from 2 different plants and almost a year apart in dates, which makes a direct creed comparison harder. The script details of the creed statement itself seem the same. I'm not sure if the bags are the same size either.

Here's the comp -

https://www.ebay.com/itm/COACH-LEGA...772915?hash=item1cba9a8473:g:LaYAAOSwNSxVUuPR

Based on the suede version, the style name would probably be something like "Legacy Leather (Medium?) Duffle". The Wayback isn't much help. (There's also a genuine Croc version but we're talking Russian oligarch-level prices so we can safely ignore that one).
MORE OPINIONS ARE WELCOME.

 

[Walter Dunkerley]

It SEEMS ok, but I can't find exactly the same bag for comparison. There's a version in suede that has the same details but the one being questioned has one extra vertical brass ring or attachment on each end between the two brass D-rings. The creed on the suede one also has gold-stamped lettering where this one's creed has the same script letters but without the gold. They're from 2 different plants and almost a year apart in dates, which makes a direct creed comparison harder. The script details seem the same. I'm not sure if the bags are the same size either.

Here's the comp -

https://www.ebay.com/itm/COACH-LEGA...772915?hash=item1cba9a8473:g:LaYAAOSwNSxVUuPR

MORE OPINIONS ARE WELCOME.

Thank you. I will take more pictures and submit it to ******************.

 

[Hyacinth]

Thank you. I will take more pictures and submit it to ******************.

I'm not sure if you're referring to some authentication service or not since the name has been blocked, but we've found many MANY times that most so-called "professional" services are incapable of accurately authenticating Coach products. If you think the experts here, most of whom have been doing this on at least 2 major websites for 10, 12 or more years, are less capable of authenticating an unknown item with no other identical bags for comparison than someone at some service whose "authenticating" involves nothing more strenuous than checking to see if they can find another one with the same serial number, just say so and we can save our time and energy and give it to the members who have learned over the last 10 or twelve years of doing THOUSANDS of Coach authentications to trust our judgement, that's your decision. And your money.

If that's NOT what you're implying, my apologies.

RANT OVER.