Authenticate This COACH - **see first post for format**

[Vlad]

IMPORTANT READ-ME

Please post authenticity questions related to COACH in this thread. No PMs please.
For further information, please refer to the first post on page 1 of this thread.

Please follow the following requests:

• Before you submit a request for authentication, please search this thread to make sure that the item has not previously been authenticated by searching the seller ID and/or item number. This is not a thread to ask general questions about COACH, please refer to our main Coach forum for such information.
• Note that authenticators have the right to refuse any requests. This is a free service, but it is imperative that you help our authenticators by using the following format:
• FOR ITEMS LISTED ONLINE:
  Item:
  Listing number:
  Seller and site where listed
  Link:
  Comments:
  
  
• FOR ITEMS NOT LISTED ONLINE:
  Item:
  Where purchased or how obtained
  Comments:

BASIC PICTURES REQUIRED (but more may be requested): If necessary pictures are in the listing, it's not necessary to upload and duplicate them.

• Front of item
• Back of item
• Full clear and legible creed text and serial number
• Made in tags (when available)
• Measurements
• For bags with turnlock closures, show pictures of back of female side of turnlock
• For bags with magnetic snaps, show pictures of the male part of the snap so that the numbers and letters on it can be read
• If applicable, search interior of bag and/or pockets for small white tag with production information and include a picture of that.

Thank you and be safe!

 

[Hyacinth]

Item Name:? Small Kisslock bag. Measures about 9 inches across the bottom and about 4 inches tall. No number inside. Says made in Italy.
Thank you for any help you can give me.

I've never seen it before. It doesn't look like glove-tanned cowhide (is it?), and many of the Cs aren't shaped correctly according to Coach's registered trademarks. I've also never seen any marks inside a genuine Coach similar to that "S" that looks like it's written in Wite-Out.

More opinions are welcome once the Rules for authenticating Coach items have been followed. If the bag is in your possession, please say so in your post along with how long ago you bought it and from where.

Once again, we're going to remind members that there are Rules here in Post Number One of this thread governing authentication requests, and the title of this thread points members in the direction of those Rules. Please read them and supply the required information. Among other requirements the Rules state:
"Authenticators are not required to answer every request and it is their right to ignore a request that is not in the proper format."

Ladies and gents, we're NOT trying to be jerks but there are very good reasons WHY we need the requested information. Anyone who reads many of the other Authentication forums for other designer brands knows that many of them have much more stringent requirements for authentication requests than we do here at A.T. Coach, and if a poster in one of those forums doesn't follow the Rules, their request is usually ignored.

Slovero, I'm not singling you out or picking on you - this message is for EVERYONE - but if we can't get the information we need or have to keep asking for it when it's posted in very large letters at the top of each page, we'll have to start doing what the authenticators in other forums have been forced to do and ignore requests that aren't in the right format and aren't giving us the details we need to make an intelligent judgement.

And if saying that makes me a jerk, I can live with that.

 

[BeenBurned]

Item Name:? Small Kisslock bag. Measures about 9 inches across the bottom and about 4 inches tall. No number inside. Says made in Italy.
Thank you for any help you can give me.

It's interesting and while I'm not sure it's fake, it clearly has an error on the creed. Whether the error is a result of a foreign plant or if it's fake, I'm not sure though I don't see anything else that indicates that it's not authentic.

The creed describes a bag made of "completely natural glove tanned cowhide."

I wasn't able to find that identical style though I found a couple of similar items that if yours is authentic would probably be from the same era.

Please wait for other opinions

Here's a similar wristlet, style 3584:


There are some styles with a similar handle but not with kisslocks (that I can find) and none in the optic signature pattern.

 

[BeenBurned]

Oops, I was typing while Hyacinth was posting. I didn't wait for the proper format.

Please post the source and seller.

 

[Vio0]

Hello i want ask about coach mini bennett satchel. The zipper now is made by IDEAL? I bought from online shopping. Is it outlet in usa is all zipper is IDEAL. When i went to big outlet of coach in my town. It is YKK. Such a confusing.

Seller=shopee taiwan (Receipt is buy in wrentham preium outlet coach)
Coach mini bennett satchel (mine is colour vanilla logo)

 

[Yrelle]

Not sure about the the legacy bag being authentic. I have a Costa Rica bag and the word spacing on the creed is different.

Seller: Shopgoodwill.com
List no: 55883827
Link: https://www.shopgoodwill.com/Item/55883827

 

[Jogee]

Vintage Coach Brown Leather Structure Purse - 0409
Item # 55831021
Goodwill Industries of the Inland Northwest
https://www.shopgoodwill.com/Item/55831021

Is the initial something someone painted on after they got it? What about the wonky printed numbers? Thanks!

 

[BeenBurned]

Not sure about the the legacy bag being authentic. I have a Costa Rica bag and the word spacing on the creed is different.

Seller: Shopgoodwill.com
List no: 55883827
Link: https://www.shopgoodwill.com/Item/55883827

The listing includes 3 bags but pictures only show 2 creeds. There's a third we'd need to see to authenticate the listing.

The Costa Rican bag/creed is fine as is the station bag.

 

[Lake Effect]

I've never seen it before. It doesn't look like glove-tanned cowhide (is it?), and many of the Cs aren't shaped correctly according to Coach's registered trademarks. I've also never seen any marks inside a genuine Coach similar to that "S" that looks like it's written in Wite-Out.

More opinions are welcome once the Rules for authenticating Coach items have been followed. If the bag is in your possession, please say so in your post along with how long ago you bought it and from where.

Once again, we're going to remind members that there are Rules here in Post Number One of this thread governing authentication requests, and the title of this thread points members in the direction of those Rules. Please read them and supply the required information. Among other requirements the Rules state:
"Authenticators are not required to answer every request and it is their right to ignore a request that is not in the proper format."

Ladies and gents, we're NOT trying to be jerks but there are very good reasons WHY we need the requested information. Anyone who reads many of the other Authentication forums for other designer brands knows that many of them have much more stringent requirements for authentication requests than we do here at A.T. Coach, and if a poster in one of those forums doesn't follow the Rules, their request is usually ignored.

Slovero, I'm not singling you out or picking on you - this message is for EVERYONE - but if we can't get the information we need or have to keep asking for it when it's posted in very large letters at the top of each page, we'll have to start doing what the authenticators in other forums have been forced to do and ignore requests that aren't in the right format and aren't giving us the details we need to make an intelligent judgement.

And if saying that makes me a jerk, I can live with that.

Oops, I was typing while Hyacinth was posting. I didn't wait for the proper format.

Please post the source and seller.

If it's any consolation, there are posters on other AT's like LV that don't understand there are requirements for an authentication : /

 

[BeenBurned]

Vintage Coach Brown Leather Structure Purse - 0409
Item # 55831021
Goodwill Industries of the Inland Northwest
https://www.shopgoodwill.com/Item/55831021

Is the initial something someone painted on after they got it? What about the wonky printed numbers? Thanks!

The bag is authentic and the monogram was added by someone after they purchased the bag.

 

[BeenBurned]

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Seller=shopee taiwan (Receipt is buy in wrentham preium outlet coach)
Coach mini bennett satchel (mine is colour vanilla logo)

Please post a link to the online listing.

Refer to post 1, page 1 for posting format and instructions. If the listing shows the pictures, it's not necessary to recopy them here.

 

[Yrelle]

The listing includes 3 bags but pictures only show 2 creeds. There's a third we'd need to see to authenticate the listing.

The Costa Rican bag/creed is fine as is the station bag.

Thank you.

 

[katev]

I have a question for the authenticators about a bag that sold yesterday for $100 on ebay. The link for that auction isn't working but you can use the link below for a previous "no bid" listing for the same item.

It is described as a "Vintage Bonnie Cashin Attache Leather Bag 60s Early" and it looks like an early Cashin bag, but it doesn't have any Coach markings and there isn't any striped lining inside the kisslock compartment. It has a "serval" zipper pull and I believe that Coach used that brand on some of the early bags but of course that is not conclusive.

@kstar54 found the auction and we discussed it on the Vintage bags thread but didn't come to any conclusions. I am curious about the bag and would like to hear the opinions of the experts, thanks!

ETA: now the second link isn't working so I will try to grab some pictures and post in a separate message, sorry!

 

[katev]

Okay, here are some pic of the purported Bonnie Cashin attache that sold on ebay yesterday, I'd appreciate your opinions.

 

[BeenBurned]

I have a question for the authenticators about a bag that sold yesterday for $100 on ebay. The link for that auction isn't working but you can use the link below for a previous "no bid" listing for the same item.

It is described as a "Vintage Bonnie Cashin Attache Leather Bag 60s Early" and it looks like an early Cashin bag, but it doesn't have any Coach markings and there isn't any striped lining inside the kisslock compartment. It has a "serval" zipper pull and I believe that Coach used that brand on some of the early bags but of course that is not conclusive.

@kstar54 found the auction and we discussed it on the Vintage bags thread but didn't come to any conclusions. I am curious about the bag and would like to hear the opinions of the experts, thanks!

ETA: now the second link isn't working so I will try to grab some pictures and post in a separate message, sorry!

Okay, here are some pic of the purported Bonnie Cashin attache that sold on ebay yesterday, I'd appreciate your opinions.
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I found the listing. I think the link works.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-BONNIE-CASHIN-Attache-LEATHER-BAG-60s-Early-/263848350315?hash=item3d6e96526b:g:O~gAAOSwrK1bVmtQ&_nkw=vintage+bonnie+cashin+attache&_sacat=0&_from=R40&LH_Complete=1&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557&nma=true&si=OMQybDn4jO7V5iroLlSAqpadD9E%3D&orig_cvip=true&nordt=true

I think your question is asking whether this is a BC bag or if it's "inspired."

I can't answer that question and chimed in only to post the link.

ETA: I will say that just because Coach used a particular brand of zipper doesn't mean that they have any connection to the bag it's in. I don't doubt for a second that Serval sold their zippers to many other companies.

 

[Hyacinth]

I have a question for the authenticators about a bag that sold yesterday for $100 on ebay. The link for that auction isn't working but you can use the link below for a previous "no bid" listing for the same item.

It is described as a "Vintage Bonnie Cashin Attache Leather Bag 60s Early" and it looks like an early Cashin bag, but it doesn't have any Coach markings and there isn't any striped lining inside the kisslock compartment. It has a "serval" zipper pull and I believe that Coach used that brand on some of the early bags but of course that is not conclusive.

@kstar54 found the auction and we discussed it on the Vintage bags thread but didn't come to any conclusions. I am curious about the bag and would like to hear the opinions of the experts, thanks!

ETA: now the second link isn't working so I will try to grab some pictures and post in a separate message, sorry!

Speaking only for myself, I'd defer to the posters at the Vintage thread as long as they included Whateve and RL Bernstein but I haven't read or looked for the posts there. I don't have any experience with Cashin styles, Coach or otherwise. If THEY don't know, then I sure don't.

But if there's no name anywhere on the bag there's no way to prove that BC or any other name designer had anything to do with it. Purse and clothing styles with a very few notable exceptions aren't and can't be trademarked, so anyone is free to copy them.