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BASIC PICTURES REQUIRED (but more may be requested): If necessary pictures are in the listing, it's not necessary to upload and duplicate them.
  • Front of item
  • Back of item
  • Full clear and legible creed text and serial number
  • Made in tags (when available)
  • Measurements
  • For bags with turnlock closures, show pictures of back of female side of turnlock
  • For bags with magnetic snaps, show pictures of the male part of the snap so that the numbers and letters on it can be read
  • If applicable, search interior of bag and/or pockets for small white tag with production information and include a picture of that.
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Item: Mahogany Flap Turnlock Bag
Seller: RuffByMargo
Link: https://www.etsy.com/listing/293920865/leather-crossbody-messenger-flap-city?ref=shop_home_active_5

Comments: I’m pretty sure that this is fake. I’m actually hoping it is fake because a lot of bling has been added and it looks terrible! She doesn't claim that it is a Coach she says "The Style reminds me of a vintage Coach bag from the days of Bonnie Cashin" and included a tiny picture of the creed.
Made in Korea - definitely fake.
 
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Item: Mahogany Flap Turnlock Bag
Seller: RuffByMargo
Link: https://www.etsy.com/listing/293920865/leather-crossbody-messenger-flap-city?ref=shop_home_active_5

Comments: I’m pretty sure that this is fake. I’m actually hoping it is fake because a lot of bling has been added and it looks terrible! She doesn't claim that it is a Coach she says "The Style reminds me of a vintage Coach bag from the days of Bonnie Cashin" and included a tiny picture of the creed.

Made in Korea - definitely fake.
I don't believe it is reportable as it doesn't say Coach anywhere and she isn't claiming it is a Coach.
 
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Item: Mahogany Flap Turnlock Bag
Seller: RuffByMargo
Link: https://www.etsy.com/listing/293920865/leather-crossbody-messenger-flap-city?ref=shop_home_active_5

Comments: I’m pretty sure that this is fake. I’m actually hoping it is fake because a lot of bling has been added and it looks terrible! She doesn't claim that it is a Coach she says "The Style reminds me of a vintage Coach bag from the days of Bonnie Cashin" and included a tiny picture of the creed.

Made in Korea - definitely fake.

I don't believe it is reportable as it doesn't say Coach anywhere and she isn't claiming it is a Coach.
In my experience, Etsy doesn't remove fakes or respond to reports anyway.
 
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It is fake. There is a frame around the number that shouldn't be there. The Z plant code was used for the Dominican Republic, not the US. The font is too thick. The zipper pull looks wrong. Insist the seller pays for shipping both ways when you return.

Does this mean all bags with Z plant codes that say made in the US are fake? Or is it the same as the plant L codes with date restrictions?
 
Hi, I'm new here and new to Coach, glad to "meet" you all! This is a wonderful resource. I've learned so much already from reading comments. Would love if you could authenticate these 3 bags. Thanks so much!

Item: Vintage Coach Brown Leather Courier Saddle Bag NYC Cashin Era Purse
Listing Number: 614575752
Seller: NeoRetroShop
Link: https://www.etsy.com/listing/614575752/vintage-coach-brown-leather-courier?show_sold_out_detail=1
Comments: Purchased this one already. Should've authenticated first, but it was an impulse buy after I lost out on this style of bag in a local vintage shop. It was also listed by seller neo.retro on eBay, all details identical.

Item: Coach Courier Pouch Saddle Bag Brown Leather c1960 Original Care Booklet
Listing Number: 352279468835
Seller: college-therapy-fund
Link: https://www.ebay.com/itm/Coach-Cour...ther-c1960-Original-Care-Booklet/352279468835
Comments: Is the the smaller version of the courier? Measurements aside, the proportions and rounded edges have me wondering. I haven't seen any other listings where the interior color differs so much from the exterior. Also curious about presence of the stamped number on the interior.

Item: Rare Vintage Coach Pre Creed Standard Courier Pouch
Listing Number: 153017686189
Seller: thrifted.life
Link: https://www.ebay.com/itm/RARE-Vintage-Coach-Pre-Creed-Standard-Courier-Pouch/153017686189
 
Hi, I'm new here and new to Coach, glad to "meet" you all! This is a wonderful resource. I've learned so much already from reading comments. Would love if you could authenticate these 3 bags. Thanks so much!

Item: Vintage Coach Brown Leather Courier Saddle Bag NYC Cashin Era Purse
Listing Number: 614575752
Seller: NeoRetroShop
Link: https://www.etsy.com/listing/614575752/vintage-coach-brown-leather-courier?show_sold_out_detail=1
Comments: Purchased this one already. Should've authenticated first, but it was an impulse buy after I lost out on this style of bag in a local vintage shop. It was also listed by seller neo.retro on eBay, all details identical.

Item: Coach Courier Pouch Saddle Bag Brown Leather c1960 Original Care Booklet
Listing Number: 352279468835
Seller: college-therapy-fund
Link: https://www.ebay.com/itm/Coach-Cour...ther-c1960-Original-Care-Booklet/352279468835
Comments: Is the the smaller version of the courier? Measurements aside, the proportions and rounded edges have me wondering. I haven't seen any other listings where the interior color differs so much from the exterior. Also curious about presence of the stamped number on the interior.

Item: Rare Vintage Coach Pre Creed Standard Courier Pouch
Listing Number: 153017686189
Seller: thrifted.life
Link: https://www.ebay.com/itm/RARE-Vintage-Coach-Pre-Creed-Standard-Courier-Pouch/153017686189

Welcome to tPF!

They're all genuine. The ones with stamped creeds weren't made in the "Cashin Era" though.
 
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Hi, I'm new here and new to Coach, glad to "meet" you all! This is a wonderful resource. I've learned so much already from reading comments. Would love if you could authenticate these 3 bags. Thanks so much!

Item: Vintage Coach Brown Leather Courier Saddle Bag NYC Cashin Era Purse
Listing Number: 614575752
Seller: NeoRetroShop
Link: https://www.etsy.com/listing/614575752/vintage-coach-brown-leather-courier?show_sold_out_detail=1
Comments: Purchased this one already. Should've authenticated first, but it was an impulse buy after I lost out on this style of bag in a local vintage shop. It was also listed by seller neo.retro on eBay, all details identical.

Item: Coach Courier Pouch Saddle Bag Brown Leather c1960 Original Care Booklet
Listing Number: 352279468835
Seller: college-therapy-fund
Link: https://www.ebay.com/itm/Coach-Cour...ther-c1960-Original-Care-Booklet/352279468835
Comments: Is the the smaller version of the courier? Measurements aside, the proportions and rounded edges have me wondering. I haven't seen any other listings where the interior color differs so much from the exterior. Also curious about presence of the stamped number on the interior.

Item: Rare Vintage Coach Pre Creed Standard Courier Pouch
Listing Number: 153017686189
Seller: thrifted.life
Link: https://www.ebay.com/itm/RARE-Vintage-Coach-Pre-Creed-Standard-Courier-Pouch/153017686189

The second one (seller college-therapy-fund) does appear to be the smaller version of the Courier.

The difference between the interior and exterior colors could be due to lighting, exposure, products that may have been used on the exterior, etc.

The inked number on the back side of the leather was probably stamped by the leather supplier. I've usually found them inside of pockets where they don't show unless you look for them.

(The third listing by seller thrifted.life has a picture of the two Courier sizes side by side.)
 
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