Authenticate This COACH - **see first post for format**

[Vlad]

IMPORTANT READ-ME

Please post authenticity questions related to COACH in this thread. No PMs please.
For further information, please refer to the first post on page 1 of this thread.

Please follow the following requests:

• Before you submit a request for authentication, please search this thread to make sure that the item has not previously been authenticated by searching the seller ID and/or item number. This is not a thread to ask general questions about COACH, please refer to our main Coach forum for such information.
• Note that authenticators have the right to refuse any requests. This is a free service, but it is imperative that you help our authenticators by using the following format:
• FOR ITEMS LISTED ONLINE:
  Item:
  Listing number:
  Seller and site where listed
  Link:
  Comments:
  
  
• FOR ITEMS NOT LISTED ONLINE:
  Item:
  Where purchased or how obtained
  Comments:

BASIC PICTURES REQUIRED (but more may be requested): If necessary pictures are in the listing, it's not necessary to upload and duplicate them.

• Front of item
• Back of item
• Full clear and legible creed text and serial number
• Made in tags (when available)
• Measurements
• For bags with turnlock closures, show pictures of back of female side of turnlock
• For bags with magnetic snaps, show pictures of the male part of the snap so that the numbers and letters on it can be read
• If applicable, search interior of bag and/or pockets for small white tag with production information and include a picture of that.

Thank you and be safe!

 

[Flushpuppy]

Honestly, I don't think it is good idea to message sellers, telling them they have a fake. Some get very angry. You aren't supposed to contact a seller unless you are interested in buying it. You can get reported for harassment and get kicked off ebay.

Report it. It is the seller's responsibility to determine authenticity before listing. If they aren't going to make the effort, they should suffer the consequences.

There are few sellers I know from tpf that I would warn, but everyone else gets reported. I learned my lesson after receiving very nasty messages from a seller I tried to warn. When his listing got removed, he blamed me. It was a little scary. In an unrelated incident, an angry seller bought (without paying) one of my items just to leave negative feedback.

Yikes! So much for being nice and giving them the benefit of the doubt. I should have asked first.

 

[FLOWERS4ME]

I def agree with your first paragraph. A question I had on the Willis Coach bag-was the inside pocket zippered or not? Thanks so much.

 

[BeenBurned]

Well????

or, a great bargain??

Vtg usa Helens legacy...

Monnmemphis29

201306465695

http://www.ebay.com/itm/NWT-Vtg-USA...-Leather-350-/201306465695?fromMakeTrack=true

(Did request a creed pic) other listings interesting too

It's not a Coach. The seller doesn't mention Coach at all in her listing so I don't think she can be accused of keyword spamming, although all the other words in her title are usually associated with Coach.

ETA: the second photo is of a different bag than the first. That one looks like a Coach. I wonder who she stole that from.

Interestingly, the first picture appears to be hers.

The second picture was stolen from Etsy from this seller:
https://www.etsy.com/listing/155314931/vintage-coach-brown-leather-helens

 

[whateve]

I def agree with your first paragraph. A question I had on the Willis Coach bag-was the inside pocket zippered or not? Thanks so much.

It's zipped, but there are similar styles that have a slip pocket. Make sure you are comparing the same style.

 

[Two.time.bags]

Honestly, I don't think it is good idea to message sellers, telling them they have a fake. Some get very angry. You aren't supposed to contact a seller unless you are interested in buying it. You can get reported for harassment and get kicked off ebay.

Report it. It is the seller's responsibility to determine authenticity before listing. If they aren't going to make the effort, they should suffer the consequences.

There are few sellers I know from tpf that I would warn, but everyone else gets reported. I learned my lesson after receiving very nasty messages from a seller I tried to warn. When his listing got removed, he blamed me. It was a little scary. In an unrelated incident, an angry seller bought (without paying) one of my items just to leave negative feedback.

That's dreadful. I had a buyer return a bag as not as described which it wasn't. When I checked her out I discovered she was selling designer brand bags also. I'm sure she bought and returned it deliberately so I'd get a defect and lose my Top Rated Seller status! Ebay brings out the best and worst in people.

 

[FLOWERS4ME]

It's zipped, but there are similar styles that have a slip pocket. Make sure you are comparing the same style.

thanks Whateve!

 

[BeenBurned]

Well????

or, a great bargain??

Vtg usa Helens legacy...

Monnmemphis29

201306465695

http://www.ebay.com/itm/NWT-Vtg-USA...-Leather-350-/201306465695?fromMakeTrack=true

(Did request a creed pic) other listings interesting too

It's not a Coach. The seller doesn't mention Coach at all in her listing so I don't think she can be accused of keyword spamming, although all the other words in her title are usually associated with Coach.

ETA: the second photo is of a different bag than the first. That one looks like a Coach. I wonder who she stole that from.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/NWT-Designe...327?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item2ede6bc4e7

and in what way, shape or form is this KATE SPADE??
Definitely she is doing tons of key word spamming on all of here listings, using any and all
words that might draw you in.
Needs to be reported big time.

Interestingly, the first picture appears to be hers.

The second picture was stolen from Etsy from this seller:
https://www.etsy.com/listing/155314931/vintage-coach-brown-leather-helens

Well, well, well! It looks like seller momnmemphis might be eavesdropping on TPF!

She has removed the stolen Etsy pictures from her first listing and removed a reference to Kate Spade from the listing thecollector629 referred to.

I do have a question about another listing from momnmemphis.

Is this authentic? (After my question, I will post her creed and another with the same prefix.

Title: Vng Coach Legacy Nottingham Cocoa British Leather Crossbody 2-way Handba
Item number: 201305175113
Link: http://www.ebay.com/itm/Vng-Coach-L...Leather-Crossbody-2-way-Handba-/201305175113?

Creed from momnmemphis listing:

vs. this:

Incidently, there are fakes (Dooney, Prada) in her sold listings.

 

[whateve]

Well, well, well! It looks like seller momnmemphis might be eavesdropping on TPF!

She has removed the stolen Etsy pictures from her first listing and removed a reference to Kate Spade from the listing thecollector629 referred to.

I do have a question about another listing from momnmemphis.

Is this authentic? (After my question, I will post her creed and another with the same prefix.

Title: Vng Coach Legacy Nottingham Cocoa British Leather Crossbody 2-way Handba
Item number: 201305175113
Link: http://www.ebay.com/itm/Vng-Coach-L...Leather-Crossbody-2-way-Handba-/201305175113?

Creed from momnmemphis listing:

vs. this:

Incidently, there are fakes (Dooney, Prada) in her sold listings.

In my opinion, it is fake. I don't see anything definitive wrong with the bag, but the font of the creed doesn't match my Rambler's Legacy made at the same plant a few months later or these others I have in my files. Note especially the one at the end of 9061.

 

[maramd]

Another wallet for authentication. Thanks!

Authentic Vintage Coach Black Brown Leather Kiss-lick Clutch WalletOrganizer
Item311312937586
Seller suzieq88813
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Authentic-V...DdJT23mOwHkMOtw%2Fix0%3D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc

 

[whateve]

thanks Whateve!

You're welcome!

Another wallet for authentication. Thanks!

Authentic Vintage Coach Black Brown Leather Kiss-lick Clutch WalletOrganizer
Item311312937586
Seller suzieq88813
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Authentic-V...DdJT23mOwHkMOtw%2Fix0%3D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc

authentic. I think it is 4301 Sheridan checkbook wallet from 1994, but it is missing the checkbook.

 

[Hyacinth]

In my opinion, it is fake. I don't see anything definitive wrong with the bag, but the font of the creed doesn't match my Rambler's Legacy made at the same plant a few months later or these others I have in my files. Note especially the one at the end of 9061.

I agree, it's fake. As you said, the font is wrong and exactly matches at least two very obvious fake serial # photos in my files with *9C- prefixes, and the inside pocket zipper doesn't look as if it was set in correctly.

I'm not a fan of sellers who throw out a bunch of BS keywords that have no connection to the bag either, like Nottingham and British. That bag is neither. And Cocoa? If my cocoa was that color I'd dump it into the sink. As a buyer I get really PO'd with sellers who hijack my searches with bogus search terms and waste my time when I'm looking for something specific. I'll avoid them in the future just on principle.

 

[BeenBurned]

Well, well, well! It looks like seller momnmemphis might be eavesdropping on TPF!

She has removed the stolen Etsy pictures from her first listing and removed a reference to Kate Spade from the listing thecollector629 referred to.

I do have a question about another listing from momnmemphis.

Is this authentic? (After my question, I will post her creed and another with the same prefix.

Title: Vng Coach Legacy Nottingham Cocoa British Leather Crossbody 2-way Handba
Item number: 201305175113
Link: http://www.ebay.com/itm/Vng-Coach-L...Leather-Crossbody-2-way-Handba-/201305175113?

Creed from momnmemphis listing:

vs. this:

Incidently, there are fakes (Dooney, Prada) in her sold listings.

In my opinion, it is fake. I don't see anything definitive wrong with the bag, but the font of the creed doesn't match my Rambler's Legacy made at the same plant a few months later or these others I have in my files. Note especially the one at the end of 9061.

I agree, it's fake. As you said, the font is wrong and exactly matches at least two very obvious fake serial # photos in my files with *9C- prefixes, and the inside pocket zipper doesn't look as if it was set in correctly.

I'm not a fan of sellers who throw out a bunch of BS keywords that have no connection to the bag either, like Nottingham and British. That bag is neither. And Cocoa? If my cocoa was that color I'd dump it into the sink. As a buyer I get really PO'd with sellers who hijack my searches with bogus search terms and waste my time when I'm looking for something specific. I'll avoid them in the future just on principle.

Thanks, Whateve and Hyacinth. I wanted to confirm that momnmemphis 's listing was fake.

BTW, Hyacinth, speaking of her blatant misuse of keywords, did you notice the first time momnmemphis listed that bag? It was previously listed as
Vintage Coach Legacy Black British Closure Clasp Vintage Xbody 2-Way Wear Bag

 

[thecollector629]

Hi - Can you check out this green bag for me, she also has one listed in another color.
I asked for a photo of the creed, which I will upload as soon as I can,
and then she said " ...
keep in mind, as noted in listing, this is a sample. The story patch specifies genuine alligator as the leather, but this is a sample and made with croc-embossed cowhide - not real alligator "


Seller: colleenk415
http://www.ebay.com/itm/331506295714

 

[thecollector629]

Hi - Can you check out this green bag for me, she also has one listed in another color.
I asked for a photo of the creed, which I will upload as soon as I can,
and then she said " ...
keep in mind, as noted in listing, this is a sample. The story patch specifies genuine alligator as the leather, but this is a sample and made with croc-embossed cowhide - not real alligator "


Seller: colleenk415
http://www.ebay.com/itm/331506295714

I can't seem to be able to copy the creed photo.
ANy suggestions when it is uploaded thru ebay messages?

 

[BeenBurned]

Hi - Can you check out this green bag for me, she also has one listed in another color.
I asked for a photo of the creed, which I will upload as soon as I can,
and then she said " ...
keep in mind, as noted in listing, this is a sample. The story patch specifies genuine alligator as the leather, but this is a sample and made with croc-embossed cowhide - not real alligator "


Seller: colleenk415
http://www.ebay.com/itm/331506295714

I can't seem to be able to copy the creed photo.
ANy suggestions when it is uploaded thru ebay messages?

We've seen colleenk415 's listings as well as other sellers from the Brooklyn/Manhattan area of NYC who claim to be selling samples. Their bags have either unverifiable (99999) style numbers, missing style numbers or style numbers that aren't correct for the styles of bags these sellers sell.

I don't recommend colleenk415 and would advise caution when dealing with sellers who claim to be selling samples.

Here are some previous posts on this seller:

http://forum.purseblog.com/coach-sh...27-31.html?highlight=colleenk415#post27870570

http://forum.purseblog.com/coach-sh...27-32.html?highlight=colleenk415#post27870694

http://forum.purseblog.com/coach-sh...27-32.html?highlight=colleenk415#post27870925

http://forum.purseblog.com/coach-shopping/authenticate-this-coach-889527-60.html#post27941759