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Please post authenticity questions related to COACH in this thread. No PMs please.
For further information, please refer to the first post on page 1 of this thread.

Please follow the following requests:
  • Before you submit a request for authentication, please search this thread to make sure that the item has not previously been authenticated by searching the seller ID and/or item number. This is not a thread to ask general questions about COACH, please refer to our main Coach forum for such information.
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  • FOR ITEMS LISTED ONLINE:
    Item:
    Listing number:
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  • FOR ITEMS NOT LISTED ONLINE:
    Item:
    Where purchased or how obtained
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BASIC PICTURES REQUIRED (but more may be requested): If necessary pictures are in the listing, it's not necessary to upload and duplicate them.
  • Front of item
  • Back of item
  • Full clear and legible creed text and serial number
  • Made in tags (when available)
  • Measurements
  • For bags with turnlock closures, show pictures of back of female side of turnlock
  • For bags with magnetic snaps, show pictures of the male part of the snap so that the numbers and letters on it can be read
  • If applicable, search interior of bag and/or pockets for small white tag with production information and include a picture of that.
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Hibbingchick said:
Interesting! What's the difference between the older & newer cashins? Just the serial #s? Or is it a design/size thing?
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Anything with a creed is not a Bonnie Cashin since they didn't start using creeds until after she left. Some of the styles were carried over, so you can get a purse that is a style designed by Bonnie Cashin. Normally we consider only those purses that were made when she was working for Coach as true Bonnie Cashin Coaches. Many, or possibly most, of those will have a Bonnie Cashin label. A lot of her original designs were lined, and the leather isn't the same.
 
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I found two sellers, both from Oakland, CA and I'm looking for opinions on their keychains.

I have my own ideas but would like further opinions. I'll post TWO DIFFERENT LISTINGS AND STYLES with their pictures and a comp picture of a known authentic version of the same style.

My main concerns are with the chain links - shape and thickness gauge, with the enameled hangtag and with the lips.

1. Seller ppinklady2014
Item: Style number 92289
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Coach-Rare-...pt=US_Women_s_Accessories&hash=item2edb7876b5

Her picture:
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2. Seller peiz-us
Item: Style number 92289
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Coach-Cosme...pt=US_Women_s_Accessories&hash=item3cef659ce5

$_57.JPG


AUTHENTIC:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Coach-RARE-...pt=US_Women_s_Accessories&hash=item27f4adc999

COMPARE TO AUTHENTIC:
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#274
Keychain #2:

Again, I note the chain links and the green enameled hangtag (enameling and the font)

1. Seller ppinklady2014
Item: Style number 61915
http://www.ebay.com/itm/COACH-LUCKY...pt=US_Women_s_Accessories&hash=item2edb0789cf

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2. Seller peiz-us
Item: Style number 61915
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Coach-Lucky...pt=US_Women_s_Accessories&hash=item3cef6596ed

$_57.JPG



AUTHENTIC:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Coach-Lucky...pt=US_Women_s_Accessories&hash=item46306132ed

COMPARE TO AUTHENTIC:

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And for good measure, another comp:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Coach-61915...pt=US_Women_s_Accessories&hash=item3a9d790c01

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I THINK the first two in each set are fake, for the reasons you pointed out - cheap thin chains and Coach logos with fonts that don't match any of Coach's trademarked logo fonts. I need some time to compare them to other listings but I imagine you've already done that pretty thoroughly.

So far I agree with you, unless Coach's manufacturing standards have really gone to he!!. Even if they've been tempted to use really cheap-looking chains, I can't see them messing with their registered trademarks.

ETA - Also interesting that both ppinklady2014 and peiz-us are using exactly the same photo for the same fake F63854 Multi Hearts keychain.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Coach-Mutil...pt=US_Women_s_Accessories&hash=item2eda6b524b
and
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Coach-Mutil...pt=US_Women_s_Accessories&hash=item3ceeb3eb18
(edited to correct duplicate URLs)
The same photo of the fake used by "both" sellers on top, Coach's own photo is second
 

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Hyacinth said:
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I THINK the first two in each set are fake, for the reasons you pointed out - cheap thin chains and Coach logos with fonts that don't match any of Coach's trademarked logo fonts. I need some time to compare them to other listings but I imagine you've already done that pretty thoroughly.
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I wanted confirmation that you would see what I'm seeing.

Those are scary.

ETA: Please do check other listings. I already did it but another pair of eyes won't hurt.
 
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BeenBurned said:
I found two sellers, both from Oakland, CA and I'm looking for opinions on their keychains.

I have my own ideas but would like further opinions. I'll post TWO DIFFERENT LISTINGS AND STYLES with their pictures and a comp picture of a known authentic version of the same style.

My main concerns are with the chain links - shape and thickness gauge, with the enameled hangtag and with the lips.

1. Seller ppinklady2014
Item: Style number 92289
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Coach-Rare-...pt=US_Women_s_Accessories&hash=item2edb7876b5

Her picture:
$_57.JPG


$_57.JPG


2. Seller peiz-us
Item: Style number 92289
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Coach-Cosme...pt=US_Women_s_Accessories&hash=item3cef659ce5

$_57.JPG


AUTHENTIC:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Coach-RARE-...pt=US_Women_s_Accessories&hash=item27f4adc999

COMPARE TO AUTHENTIC:
$_57.JPG
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BeenBurned said:
I wanted confirmation that you would see what I'm seeing.

Those are scary.

ETA: Please do check other listings. I already did it but another pair of eyes won't hurt.
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Check my multi-edited post right above yours.

Here's a close-up of Coach's photo showing the bottom Heart charm and the thickness of the chain links on 63854. The placement of the charms is also different on the fakes.
 

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Two.time.bags said:
Item: Vintage Coach red glove tanned leather Bellini Zip
Item no: 381077416839
Seller: mfjrun
Link: http://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-COA...839?pt=US_CSA_WH_Handbags&hash=item58b9fbeb87
Comment: plant code R and nickel hardware in 1998?
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The Bellini was listed as New in the Fall 1999 catalog, so an F8 serial prefix seems to be stretching it a bit. An R plant code from the US is also questionable but there's almost no record of R plant code items in my files so comparisons are impossible. Nickel hardware could have been used in 1998 and was the only color available with a red Bellini.

There isn't enough evidence to say it's fake so please don't report it. It may have been a pilot bag, but I personally wouldn't buy it.
 
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Two.time.bags said:
Item: Vintage Coach red glove tanned leather Bellini Zip
Item no: 381077416839
Seller: mfjrun
Link: http://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-COA...839?pt=US_CSA_WH_Handbags&hash=item58b9fbeb87
Comment: plant code R and nickel hardware in 1998?
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Hyacinth said:
The Bellini was listed as New in the Fall 1999 catalog, so an F8 serial prefix seems to be stretching it a bit. An R plant code from the US is also questionable but there's almost no record of R plant code items in my files so comparisons are impossible. Nickel hardware could have been used in 1998 and was the only color available with a red Bellini.

There isn't enough evidence to say it's fake so please don't report it. It may have been a pilot bag, but I personally wouldn't buy it.
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Because the seller ID rang a bell, I did a little searching.

I want to just add that mfjrun recently sold this bag with an E plant code but creed stating that it's US-made.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-COA...D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557

And she sold this one with a K plant from 1998:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-COA...D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557

And there was this post from back in March, 2014:
http://forum.purseblog.com/coach-sh...-855067-95.html?highlight=mfjrun#post26428539

Personally, I wouldn't buy from mfjrun
 
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BeenBurned said:
seller cmugurl05

There's no way to authenticate that bag. The first picture isn't the seller's own picture of the actual bag and the other two, even if her own pics aren't adequate for authentication purposes.
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After I also inquired about some side markings on the bag...

The seller finally responsed that I probably would not like this bag and should not bother her further. Ha!
 
#285
Originally Posted by BeenBurned

seller cmugurl05

There's no way to authenticate that bag. The first picture isn't the seller's own picture of the actual bag and the other two, even if her own pics aren't adequate for authentication purposes.

TampaEm said:
After I also inquired about some side markings on the bag...

The seller finally responsed that I probably would not like this bag and should not bother her further. Ha!
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IMO, it's her loss. As a seller with just a few feedbacks, one would think she'd try to do whatever she could to instill confidence in her buyers. Evidently not.
 
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