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  • Full clear and legible creed text and serial number
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  • For bags with turnlock closures, show pictures of back of female side of turnlock
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  • If applicable, search interior of bag and/or pockets for small white tag with production information and include a picture of that.
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Hi! I'm looking for help in authenticating the following two items:

1) Item: "Coach Charm Chain-Link Keychain"
Listing #: CCH22585
Seller: TheRealReal
Link: https://www.therealreal.com/products/women/accessories/keychains/coach-charm-chain-link-keychain-2

2) Item: "Coach Charm Chain-Link Keychain"
Listing #: CCH22584
Seller: TheRealReal
Link: https://www.therealreal.com/products/women/accessories/keychains/coach-charm-chain-link-keychain-1

Thanks so much!!!

Ugh! I hope you didn't buy the second one! Both are fake!!!

ETA: I guess I can add the RealReal to sites that don't know how to authenticate Coach, even as they guarantee authenticity.

You're welcome. By the way, these are obvious fakes. It doesn't take someone with tons of experience to see that. Maybe their authenticators for other brands are better. I certainly hope so.

Yup, very obvious and bad fakes!

As for their "Guarantee of Authenticity," a guarantee is only as good as those who authenticate the items and if they aren't using people who know what they're doing, buyers will be ripped off!

I actually added this information to the current discussion on the ebay subforum. Based on this recent activity, lack of care of a client's expensive Hermes scarves as well as these two listings for obvious fake Coach keychains, my opinion of TheRealReal is not too good!

You know something? While I appreciate your optimism concerning TRR's response, I'm not impressed.

A company that doesn't really learn from and react appropriately to its mistakes is doomed to repeat them.

TRR has had fakes in the past and when caught, they take returns and issue refunds.

TRR has damaged items (as in the OP's case) and apologizes profusely and claims to fix their problems.

TRR assures buyers (and sellers) that they have experts who verify legality and authenticity of items. Yet TRR has done NOTHING with regard to the Coach fakes that were pointed out to them a week ago. (And in fact, they've taken the return and refunded the buyer for one of those fakes.) Yet the listings are still active.

In fact, their response to notification of those fakes is more a tacit denial than actual remorse or admission of errors. Unless "Crystal" and CEO, Julie Wainwright actually follow through on their promises, I don't hold out hope that problems will continue, be they counterfeit items or shoddy handling.

Dear xxx,

Thank you for your inquiry. Authenticity is the cornerstone of The RealReal. We staff in-house professionals including gemologists, horologists, art appraisers and apparel experts that ensure every item sold is 100% authentic and in beautiful condition.

All items are put through a multi-point, brand-specific, authentication process by a team of luxury experts guided by our Director of Authentication & Brand Compliance. During this inspection process, we validate appropriate brand markings, date codes, serial tags and hologram stickers as applicable. Each item passes through our strict authenticity test before it is curated into daily sales.

However, we have forward your concerns to our authenticy team.

Feel free to contact us if there is anything we else we may assist you with.

Regards,

Crystal
Customer Service Representative
TheRealReal.com
855.435.5893
Customer Service: Ext 1
Insides Sales: Ext 2
Consignor Relations: Ext 3
I'm updating these posts on TheRealReal. As I said earlier in the older posts, a guarantee of authenticity is only as good as the "experts" who authenticate items and on TRR, their experts are NOT expert!

It was on March 12 - 8.5 days ago - that Crystal at TRR responded to my email about the fake Coach keychains. Note that she assured me (in blue) that "my concerns" would be forwarded to their "authenticity team" but clearly, either she lied to me or their "authenticity team" deemed this POS as authentic. (The other listing was the one returned by @bmwm5 and was removed.)
Do not buy this item from TRR. Although they guarantee authenticity and are even told it's fake, the listing is still posted:
https://www.therealreal.com/product...eychain-1?&cvosrc=affiliate.shareasale.928094
 
At your convenience, pls check this out. I am on my tablet, so I can't get a better look at the pics. The leather in general looks off, sort of cheesy. And the M code font does not match the one in a bag I have so I am curious what you have for the year, 5? There are bidders :/
Seller- jvdv17
https://www.ebay.com/itm/263549412768?_trksid=p2471758.m4703
I quadruple checked the seller's name to spell it correctly!!
 
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At your convenience, pls check this out. I am on my tablet, so I can't get a better look at the pics. The leather in general looks off, sort of cheesy. And the M code font does not match the one in a bag I have so I am curious what you have for the year, 5? There are bidders :/
Seller- jvdv17
https://www.ebay.com/itm/263549412768?_trksid=p2471758.m4703
I quadruple checked the seller's name to spell it correctly!!
Very fake! Besides the creed font, the inside zipper doesn't go end to end and the drawstring keeper isn't sewn all the way around.
 
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At your convenience, pls check this out. I am on my tablet, so I can't get a better look at the pics. The leather in general looks off, sort of cheesy. And the M code font does not match the one in a bag I have so I am curious what you have for the year, 5? There are bidders :/
Seller- jvdv17
https://www.ebay.com/itm/263549412768?_trksid=p2471758.m4703
I quadruple checked the seller's name to spell it correctly!!

The bag is 100% real!!

Very Real!

How is the leather cheesy?I own that AUTHENTIC COACH!
@isellonlyrealbags -- Sorry but that bag is fake. If you're the seller, you erred in buying and listing it and if possible, return it to wherever you purchased.
 
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How would YOU know the bag is fake?When i am the one that has bought and owned it all these years?
Serious question!The bag is over 20 plus years old and IS authentic!
Because we have years of experience. Your bag has several details that wouldn't be seen in authentic bags. There were certain ways Coach made their bags and they didn't make an exception for yours. For example, look at the zipper on the inside pocket. On vintage styles, including the style of yours, inside pocket zippers should go all the way from end to end. Yours has a frame around the zipper.
 
Welcome!

I don't know how old your "older" Coach wallet is but you really can't compare items from completely different eras. Additionally, the crossgrain leather on this wallet is very different from smooth buffalo or cowhide.

That said, I am not familiar with the style of wallet and although I don't see any obvious red flags in the pictures from the listing, I'm not familiar with the style and haven't seen a wallet with the "Coach" logo placed vertically on the side of the front as is shown on your wallet. This is NOT an authentication; just a statement that I'm not familiar with the logo location. Another concern is that every other wallet with the logo in the font shown on your wallet has "New York" embossed underneath Coach in at least one of the locations. Your wallet doesn't have New York in either place.


I'd like to see a couple more pictures. Please post a photo of the cash pocket and lining and if there's a made in label, please post that.

Hi ,
Yes the little details such as not including new york and the fact that the ID section doesn't pull out is what rang bells.

I've included more photos and thanks for the information!

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@isellonlyrealbags -- Sorry but that bag is fake. If you're the seller, you erred in buying and listing it and if possible, return it to wherever you purchased.

The original post or posts from " isellonlyrealbags " about the fake bag seems to have vanished into the "You do not have permission.." black hole. I'm assuming it's the one referred to in Post 28037 listed by jvdv17 at Ebay - the listing isn't cached either.

ETA - never mind - found it
https://webcache.googleusercontent....+&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us&lr=lang_en|lang_es
Listing says "Selling as found, as is" so it wasn't bought at a Coach store or retailer.

I agree with Whateve on all points, and the serial number font isn't right for ANY year I know of.

And she's already trying to authenticate at the main forum?
 
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Hi ,
Yes the little details such as not including new york and the fact that the ID section doesn't pull out is what rang bells.

I've included more photos and thanks for the information!

vztsex.jpg
bfmf5e.jpg

sv6olx.jpg

vxghax.jpg
Thank you for the additional pictures.

While I can't find any other examples of the same style wallet, I still don't see anything that indicates that the wallet is fake. And the additional pictures show details that look exactly as they should.

I believe the wallet is authentic though I'd like to see the listing from which you'd purchased.
 
The original post or posts from " isellonlyrealbags " about the fake bag seems to have vanished into the "You do not have permission.." black hole. I'm assuming it's the one referred to in Post 28037 listed by jvdv17 at Ebay - the listing isn't cached either.

ETA - never mind - found it
https://webcache.googleusercontent....+&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us&lr=lang_en|lang_es
Listing says "Selling as found, as is" so it wasn't bought at a Coach store or retailer.

I agree with Whateve on all points, and the serial number font isn't right for ANY year I know of.

And she's already trying to authenticate at the main forum?
No, Hyacinth. She wasn't "authenticating" any bag other than her own. She was disputing the comments made about her bag.

Since the cache of the listing will eventually disappear, here are a few pictures of the bag in question:

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No, Hyacinth. She wasn't "authenticating" any bag other than her own. She was disputing the comments made about her bag.

Since the cache of the listing will eventually disappear, here are a few pictures of the bag in question:

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Sorry, I meant THIS post, it's actually in THIS subforum with the other miscellaneous posts, not the main one. I didn't even notice the date of the Original Poster's question until after I'd already replied, and then missed the Edit window:
https://forum.purseblog.com/threads/authenticate-this-metallic-coach-wristlet.613816/#post-32144336

And if that's supposed to be a 1995 date code (H5M-?) in the black Sling, the creed wording is also in the wrong format, it should still be the old creed with the Made In line at the bottom. But the M code and serial fonts are fake anyway. Here's a K October 1995 M-plant creed with the month and year codes flipped

1995_M-plant-US_5KM-9790-outlet.jpg
 
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How would YOU know the bag is fake?When i am the one that has bought and owned it all these years?
Serious question!The bag is over 20 plus years old and IS authentic!
Because we have years of experience. Your bag has several details that wouldn't be seen in authentic bags. There were certain ways Coach made their bags and they didn't make an exception for yours. For example, look at the zipper on the inside pocket. On vintage styles, including the style of yours, inside pocket zippers should go all the way from end to end. Yours has a frame around the zipper.
Thanks to all you ladies in responding to my request for authentication.
I will try to be brief and avoid repetition. This post is really for the lurkers. My disclaimer is that I love vintage Coach and up until the last two years or so, had a handful. I had an introduction to fake vs. authentic serial numbers way back when in 2004,5 or so back on ebay coach discussion boards. And got serious about wanted to learn how to deeply condition my vintage bags and searching on the internet brought me to this forum about 18 months ago. And lurked for 6 months until I worked up the nerve to learn the blog thing. And I have indulged myself in many vintage purchases since.
Yes, I made a comment about the cheesy leather on the fake black bag, because yeah, the pic of the full side with seam gave me a cheap knock off leather/ vibe. But even though I made a comment to that, I asked for authentication based on production details and the font used for the serial number. I happen to have a (real) Sling Bag. I also have a different bag with the M plant code, which has a little quirk. And that is not the first wannabe sling bag I have seen.
I read this AT thread regularly for my ongoing education and passion lol for vintage. I do a lot of searches based on the discussions that ensue. I want to be an informed consumer! And I'm sorry sellers, many of you are grossly mistaken on the name, style # and production history of the bags you sell. On a regular basis sellers come here complaining that their bag has been wrongly flagged as a fake and they have been using , handling Coach bags forever, they "know it's a real Coach", it's the correct style number, here's the picture of it in a catalog, what makes you an authority, how can you tell by pictures only, my mother bought it from a store, etc, etc.
Back in the late 90's , knock off Coach hit my region of the country with a bang. I could tell stories about how and where it was being sold, but that's not the point here. Fake Coach was and still is an industry. And for 20 years I have been seeing it in consignment shops and thrift shops. And online for sale.
It's a tough blow to the ego to realize you don't know what you thought you did. But that's reality.
I can't believe my lucky stars that as a buyer I can get free authentication here (as any tPFer can) by simply giving the info asked for in the first post. And if you think I am being "the teacher's pet" ( on one blog I found complaining about tPF , people who reported fakes were referred to as the authenticators' minions, honest to God!) here with this post, guess what, my give a damn's busted. These ladies are the only thing between us buyers and sellers that are uninformed, lazy, dishonest and any combination of the former.
And for the record, I don't scroll eBay looking for fakes to flag. I am looking for a deal lol. But if I see something fake, with a known fake indicator, I will report. If it is questionable (and last night's fake was bid up to $60), I bring it here and ask for opinions. I will treat sellers with respect and will not report unless it is confirm-able here.
Okay lurkers, I am done! (Does it count as a rant if I don't use the cap lock??)
 
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Thanks to all you ladies in responding to my request for authentication.
I will try to be brief and avoid repetition. This post is really for the lurkers. ...

...And for the record, I don't scroll eBay looking for fakes to flag. I am looking for a deal lol. But if I see something fake, with a known fake indicator, I will report. If it is questionable (and last night's fake was bid up to $60), I bring it here and ask for opinions. I will treat sellers with respect and will not report unless it is confirm-able here.
Okay lurkers, I am done! (Does it count as a rant if I don't use the cap lock??)

To answer your last point -
Actually, as the Official Rant Queen Of The Coach Forum, I have EXCLUSIVE rights to the CAPS LOCK key. Any and ALL requests for usage by non-authorized members must be made to ME, in TRIPLICATE and with a $50 Usage Fee in Bitcoin, before permission can be granted. (Use of the BOLD link, however, is open to all members).

SO THERE. :biggrin:
 
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