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  • Full clear and legible creed text and serial number
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#27,992
Hello-I bought this purse at Goodwill. I can’t find any info about it online so was hoping someone here can shed some light. I do not want a fake! Thank you!
 

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#27,994
rspon said:
Aside from all the other red flags.... ?
What other red flags - the font and .......
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The font, the incorrect style number belonging to a Willis, the out of proportion Coach logo above the creed, the wrong shape of the handle rings, and the creed wording and plant code that don't belong in that style backpack. That and the creed and serial number fonts are absolutely indicative of a fake.
 
#27,995
rspon said:
I believe I have a real challenge question here:
Bag Name: Handle Backpack Style No.9992

I bought a Coach Handle Backpack yesterday at an estate sale. I have bought and sold Coach bags for over 20 years but this bag has me really stumped.
Bag appears 100% authentic Handle Backpack: from the leather to the stitching to the hang tag to the detail wording and spacing of the creed. The Creed serial number on this Backpack is No G4D - 9927. This puts it as a July 1994 bag, but here is the thing - the style number 9927 is that of a Willis bag - Pictures of the bag and creed attached.
Is it possible that in the chaos year of 1994 at Coach they used the same style number for two different bag designs?
Did the US factory "D" use G4D and a unique serial number to follow ( not a style number) ?
Since this is an early 1994 bag could it have been a prototype ?
Could Factory D have assigned # 9927 to this Handle Backbpack and then it was discovered by Factory D that style had already been assigned to Willis bag ?
Is it possible this bag was incorrectly Creeded with a Willis bag creed ( just a mix up )
I am completely perplexed - anyone have an idea?
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rspon said:
Thank you again. Painful lesson for me but those you remember.
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May I ask why this is a "painful lesson?"

Are you aware that estate sales are required to abide by federal law regarding the sale of counterfeit items and like any ebay (or other) seller, they are required to KNOW and VERIFY authenticity of the items they sell. That's the law and not just the policy of some websites. And in not verifying and confirming, they are in violation of the law.

If I'd purchased this item (that BTW wasn't a challenge to authenticate), I'd march right back to the location of the sale and demand a refund! IMO, no amount of money is cheap enough to make it okay to accept a fake.

Make it so it's the estate sale company that learns the painful lesson!
 
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BeenBurned said:
May I ask why this is a "painful lesson?"

Are you aware that estate sales are required to abide by federal law regarding the sale of counterfeit items and like any ebay (or other) seller, they are required to KNOW and VERIFY authenticity of the items they sell. That's the law and not just the policy of some websites. And in not verifying and confirming, they are in violation of the law.

If I'd purchased this item (that BTW wasn't a challenge to authenticate), I'd march right back to the location of the sale and demand a refund! IMO, no amount of money is cheap enough to make it okay to accept a fake.

Make it so it's the estate sale company that learns the painful lesson!
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BeenBurned said:
May I ask why this is a "painful lesson?"

Are you aware that estate sales are required to abide by federal law regarding the sale of counterfeit items and like any ebay (or other) seller, they are required to KNOW and VERIFY authenticity of the items they sell. That's the law and not just the policy of some websites. And in not verifying and confirming, they are in violation of the law.

If I'd purchased this item (that BTW wasn't a challenge to authenticate), I'd march right back to the location of the sale and demand a refund! IMO, no amount of money is cheap enough to make it okay to accept a fake.

Make it so it's the estate sale company that learns the painful lesson!
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Thank you - I did not know that was the law with respect to estate sales.
 
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#27,997
rspon said:
Thank you - I did not know that was the law with respect to estate sales.
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That's the law (in the US, at least) pertaining to ALL sales of counterfeit items. Counterfeiting and / or selling or trading ANY brand name item that has been registered, trademarked or copyrighted by the US government is a federal offense, period. Private sellers, "non-profits" like Goodwill, and auctions or estate sales are NOT exempt from the law. The violation is against the original copyright or trademark holder because their rights of legal ownership of their names, graphics, registered logos, etc., have been violated.

https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/2320
 
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#28,001
catthecurious said:
Good morning! Could someone confirm this bag is fake please? Just wanted to make sure before reporting it. Thanks!

https://rover.ebay.com/rover/0/0/0?mpre=https://www.ebay.com/ulk/itm/302668955801

Seller: angela3520

Also, this wallet:

https://rover.ebay.com/rover/0/0/0?mpre=https://www.ebay.com/ulk/itm/183132991175

Seller: mnsagar
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Regarding the bag from angela3520, without a picture of the creed, it's impossible to confirm either way. Maybe someone might ask the seller for a clear pic.

For the wallet, it's not counterfeit. The seller is either unaware that it's not a Coach logo or she's trying to generate traffic by using "Coach" to describe it. It's unlikely that there are any Coach markings so it's not counterfeit but could be reported for KWS.
 
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catthecurious said:
Good morning! Could someone confirm this bag is fake please? Just wanted to make sure before reporting it. Thanks!

https://rover.ebay.com/rover/0/0/0?mpre=https://www.ebay.com/ulk/itm/302668955801

Seller: angela3520

Also, this wallet:

https://rover.ebay.com/rover/0/0/0?mpre=https://www.ebay.com/ulk/itm/183132991175

Seller: mnsagar
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BeenBurned said:
Regarding the bag from angela3520, without a picture of the creed, it's impossible to confirm either way. Maybe someone might ask the seller for a clear pic.

For the wallet, it's not counterfeit. The seller is either unaware that it's not a Coach logo or she's trying to generate traffic by using "Coach" to describe it. It's unlikely that there are any Coach markings so it's not counterfeit but could be reported for KWS.
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The purse wasn't made by Coach. That type of buckle was never used by Coach.
 
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#28,003
Please authenticate this Utility Rogue purchased on ebay. Right off the bat, I noticed some differences between the bag I received and the bag shown in the listing. The bag in the listing had the key hood and the tag on different sides of the handles, this bag had them on the same. No big deal, but first clue. The bag in the listing has a thick card tag, while this bag has a thin paper tag. I do not recall if the Utility was sold in other stores that would explain the thin tag. But the thing that is getting me the most is the fact that the "made in" tag is sewn inside the suede outer pockets. There is no white tag inside the pocket. I have A LOT of Rogues, and I cannot think of one that has the "Made in Tag" sewn into the suede. That being said....I just ordered the Ivy Rogue with the print interior direct from Coach and I can find NO tags at all. No "Made in" tag, nor the white tag that is normally sewn inside the pocket.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/NWT-Coach-...e=STRK:MEBIDX:IT&_trksid=p2057872.m2749.l2649

Lastly, I purchased this on my phone. When I checked sellers feedback, it showed 1 feedback as seller within the past 6 months. When I now check it on the computer, it shows 6 feedbacks, one of which was a Utility Rogue....using the same photos as the one I bought....If I go back to my phone app and check their feedback, still shows 1 feedback.
 

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#28,004
#28,005
catthecurious said:
Also, even though the pictures are sketchy, you can see one of them showing too long zipper, which I don't remember being typical for Coach bags.

Thank you both, @whateve and @BeenBurned !

One more thing... Coach never made signature Ergo bags, right?

https://rover.ebay.com/rover/0/0/0?mpre=https://www.ebay.com/ulk/itm/183097213469

Seller: suemdumas1
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That is definitely fake. No I don't think they ever made a signature version of that style but if they had, it would have had a different style number. The counterfeiters realized that they had to use a later year for a signature version since signature didn't exist when the ergos were made, but they used a plant code that was no longer used by that time, and Coach would have never used signature material on the pocket.

There are signature ergos, but they are from a later ergo line.

ETA: I agree, there is enough wrong with the white bag to report.
 
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