Authenticate This COACH - **see first post for format**

[Vlad]

IMPORTANT READ-ME

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For further information, please refer to the first post on page 1 of this thread.

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BASIC PICTURES REQUIRED (but more may be requested): If necessary pictures are in the listing, it's not necessary to upload and duplicate them.

• Front of item
• Back of item
• Full clear and legible creed text and serial number
• Made in tags (when available)
• Measurements
• For bags with turnlock closures, show pictures of back of female side of turnlock
• For bags with magnetic snaps, show pictures of the male part of the snap so that the numbers and letters on it can be read
• If applicable, search interior of bag and/or pockets for small white tag with production information and include a picture of that.

Thank you and be safe!

 

[BeenBurned]

Hi! I'm looking for help in authenticating the following two items:

1) Item: "Coach Charm Chain-Link Keychain"
Listing #: CCH22585
Seller: TheRealReal
Link: https://www.therealreal.com/products/women/accessories/keychains/coach-charm-chain-link-keychain-2

2) Item: "Coach Charm Chain-Link Keychain"
Listing #: CCH22584
Seller: TheRealReal
Link: https://www.therealreal.com/products/women/accessories/keychains/coach-charm-chain-link-keychain-1

Thanks so much!!!

Ugh! I hope you didn't buy the second one! Both are fake!!!

ETA: I guess I can add the RealReal to sites that don't know how to authenticate Coach, even as they guarantee authenticity.

You're welcome. By the way, these are obvious fakes. It doesn't take someone with tons of experience to see that. Maybe their authenticators for other brands are better. I certainly hope so.

Yup, very obvious and bad fakes!

As for their "Guarantee of Authenticity," a guarantee is only as good as those who authenticate the items and if they aren't using people who know what they're doing, buyers will be ripped off!

I actually added this information to the current discussion on the ebay subforum. Based on this recent activity, lack of care of a client's expensive Hermes scarves as well as these two listings for obvious fake Coach keychains, my opinion of TheRealReal is not too good!

I wanted to update.

I'd hoped to be able to give TheRealReal a thumbs up for doing the right thing but sadly, it looks like they're no better than Poshmark, Listia and other sites that turn a blind eye to counterfeit items in favor of the almighty buck.

On Thursday evening (about 30 hours ago), I sent an email to TRR letting them know that both keychains are counterfeit and included a link to the posts that deemed them as such.

And although they claim to "guarantee authenticity," they can make claims till the cows come home but their actions speak louder.

And if others want to contact and let them know they have fakes listed, their contact email is
[email protected]

 

[whateve]

Small Coach Crossbody -style?
https://bnc.lt/focc/RVEB9O479K
Site: Poshmark
Seller: Kandifent
L-9.75”
H-7.75”
D-3.5”
SD-23” longest
Good evening to you, Authenticators! I would appreciate help in ID’ing this bag, and confirming its authenticity, many thanks in advance!

It's authentic. It really looks like a Taylor zip #9944 but the measurements I have are 11 x 6.25 x 2.75.

 

[2cello]

I researched this but could not find a definitive answer. I have seen a few coach bags (in the Madison era as I am looking for a Madison gathered leather bag) that have a serial number starting with M. So M1182 16282, for example. I did read something in an authentication post that a serial number would never start with the letters N through Z - but M is the 13th letter. I swear I counted a dozen times and it is the 13th letter, right? So it is not January through December. Does anyone what the M represents?

 

[BeenBurned]

I researched this but could not find a definitive answer. I have seen a few coach bags (in the Madison era as I am looking for a Madison gathered leather bag) that have a serial number starting with M. So M1182 16282, for example. I did read something in an authentication post that a serial number would never start with the letters N through Z - but M is the 13th letter. I swear I counted a dozen times and it is the 13th letter, right? So it is not January through December. Does anyone what the M represents?

Several comments:

• When searching, use only the style number portion the serials number, the suffix (second half)
• M = December. Although Coach generally tried not to use I as month code because it's too easily confused with "1" there are cases where it was used, usually by a non-US plant.
• There are also cases where N has been used on authentic bags, again by a non-US plant that sometimes didn't get "the memo" regarding coding

It's a good idea to verify authenticity of any item since there are exceptions to nearly every Coach "rule."

 

[Lori Pranger]

It's authentic. It really looks like a Taylor zip #9944 but the measurements I have are 11 x 6.25 x 2.75.

I re-measured, and can get the 6.25” H that you said is typical for the Taylor Zip, but no matter how I measure the length and width, I can’t get to that number. I am measuring the bag stuffed with paper. There’s always a possibility that I’m not measuring it correctly. Pictures posted for comment. If the numbers are not what’s expected for that style, what’s that indicate? By the way, good morning to you, and thanks for your time and expertise!!

 

[AMom2Two]

Hi again. I sell on consignment and have these items in my possession. The owner claims both of these coin purses are vintage and authentic. Can I get another opinion please

 

[Catbird9]

It's authentic. It really looks like a Taylor zip #9944 but the measurements I have are 11 x 6.25 x 2.75.

I re-measured, and can get the 6.25” H that you said is typical for the Taylor Zip, but no matter how I measure the length and width, I can’t get to that number. I am measuring the bag stuffed with paper. There’s always a possibility that I’m not measuring it correctly. Pictures posted for comment. If the numbers are not what’s expected for that style, what’s that indicate? By the way, good morning to you, and thanks for your time and expertise!!View attachment 3995993View attachment 3995994View attachment 3995995

For the side measurement, I would go from seam to seam on the inside of the piping.

Here's a catalog picture of the Taylor Zip. The top edge where the zipper meets the sides is different. I don't know what this means!

 

[Lori Pranger]

For the side measurement, I would go from seam to seam on the inside of the piping.

Here's a catalog picture of the Taylor Zip. The top edge where the zipper meets the sides is different. I don't know what this means!

I like that green color! Well. Maybe it was just made another year from the one in pictures. I guess that there are no completely hard and fast rules for every situation, and inconsistencies will happen. Thanks much!

 

[whateve]

Hi again. I sell on consignment and have these items in my possession. The owner claims both of these coin purses are vintage and authentic. Can I get another opinion please

Both are authentic. I've seen the top one in a 1989 catalog and in others that may be earlier. The second one is 5828 Lexington coin purse. I don't know when it was made.

 

[whateve]

I re-measured, and can get the 6.25” H that you said is typical for the Taylor Zip, but no matter how I measure the length and width, I can’t get to that number. I am measuring the bag stuffed with paper. There’s always a possibility that I’m not measuring it correctly. Pictures posted for comment. If the numbers are not what’s expected for that style, what’s that indicate? By the way, good morning to you, and thanks for your time and expertise!!View attachment 3995993View attachment 3995994View attachment 3995995

For the side measurement, I would go from seam to seam on the inside of the piping.

Here's a catalog picture of the Taylor Zip. The top edge where the zipper meets the sides is different. I don't know what this means!

If the zipper doesn't snap down on the sides, then my ID is wrong. I can't think of another style that is similar at the moment. I'll look again.

 

[Quest2know]

I'm hoping someone can help me and let me know if this purse is authentic or not. I've searched the internet including this site as thoroughly as I feel I can for last several days but couldn't find anything. I feel that since I've not found info on this particular bag then it's probably a fake. I've loved Coach for a long time but rarely get to buy unless secondhand and I don't know enough(but recently been learning) to authenticate so I don't usually buy. The purse in question I had difficulty trying to get a link so I have screen shots of all pics.
Item name Kristin jacquard op-art. I appreciate any help. Crossing fingers to hear something soon just in case it's real. I'm dying for a Kristin

 

[Lori Pranger]

For the side measurement, I would go from seam to seam on the inside of the piping.

Here's a catalog picture of the Taylor Zip. The top edge where the zipper meets the sides is different. I don't know what this means!

There are a couple of differences that I see. The hardware on my strap is a ring; other one’s I see are more rectangular.

Also, looking at the backside of my bag vs typical other Taylor Zip bags; mine tapers in at the top; the typical others that I see, do not.

The zippered area on my bag is all contained within rim of the purse whereas the typical Taylor zip zipper extends outside of the bag and attaches via a small leather square with a rivet.

Is it possible that it’s just from a different year?

 

[whateve]

There are a couple of differences that I see. The hardware on my strap is a ring; other one’s I see are more rectangular.

Also, looking at the backside of my bag vs typical other Taylor Zip bags; mine tapers in at the top; the typical others that I see, do not.

The zippered area on my bag is all contained within rim of the purse whereas the typical Taylor zip zipper extends outside of the bag and attaches via a small leather square with a rivet.

Is it possible that it’s just from a different year?

No, it's a different style.

 

[Lori Pranger]

If the zipper doesn't snap down on the sides, then my ID is wrong. I can't think of another style that is similar at the moment. I'll look again.

Sure does look similar though...!

 

[whateve]

I re-measured, and can get the 6.25” H that you said is typical for the Taylor Zip, but no matter how I measure the length and width, I can’t get to that number. I am measuring the bag stuffed with paper. There’s always a possibility that I’m not measuring it correctly. Pictures posted for comment. If the numbers are not what’s expected for that style, what’s that indicate? By the way, good morning to you, and thanks for your time and expertise!!View attachment 3995993View attachment 3995994View attachment 3995995

For the side measurement, I would go from seam to seam on the inside of the piping.

Here's a catalog picture of the Taylor Zip. The top edge where the zipper meets the sides is different. I don't know what this means!

If the zipper doesn't snap down on the sides, then my ID is wrong. I can't think of another style that is similar at the moment. I'll look again.

There are a couple of differences that I see. The hardware on my strap is a ring; other one’s I see are more rectangular.

Also, looking at the backside of my bag vs typical other Taylor Zip bags; mine tapers in at the top; the typical others that I see, do not.

The zippered area on my bag is all contained within rim of the purse whereas the typical Taylor zip zipper extends outside of the bag and attaches via a small leather square with a rivet.

Is it possible that it’s just from a different year?

Found it! It's an Austin bag 9909.