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Please post authenticity questions related to COACH in this thread. No PMs please.
For further information, please refer to the first post on page 1 of this thread.

Please follow the following requests:
  • Before you submit a request for authentication, please search this thread to make sure that the item has not previously been authenticated by searching the seller ID and/or item number. This is not a thread to ask general questions about COACH, please refer to our main Coach forum for such information.
  • Note that authenticators have the right to refuse any requests. This is a free service, but it is imperative that you help our authenticators by using the following format:
  • FOR ITEMS LISTED ONLINE:
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    Listing number:
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  • FOR ITEMS NOT LISTED ONLINE:
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BASIC PICTURES REQUIRED (but more may be requested): If necessary pictures are in the listing, it's not necessary to upload and duplicate them.
  • Front of item
  • Back of item
  • Full clear and legible creed text and serial number
  • Made in tags (when available)
  • Measurements
  • For bags with turnlock closures, show pictures of back of female side of turnlock
  • For bags with magnetic snaps, show pictures of the male part of the snap so that the numbers and letters on it can be read
  • If applicable, search interior of bag and/or pockets for small white tag with production information and include a picture of that.
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#2,731
lonesomeoctober said:
Etsy listing

"Huge sale authentic vintage coach..."

Vintageclothhouse

https://www.etsy.com/listing/224425205/huge-sale-authentic-vintage-coach?ref=related-4

Thank you dear authenticators!
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It seems ok, but I don't like when the seller shows photos that aren't actually of the bag being sold. I'd rather see a closeup of where the metal Coach plaque (plaGue? Really? :laugh: ) originally was rather than pictures of the plaques on other bags And the seller says "The leather has been conditioned and oiled", but it doesn't say what kind of oil was used and there are oils that shouldn't be used on Coach leathers. For instance I've heard of people even using olive oil, which is a really bad idea. You may want to ask the seller how the bag was conditioned and what products she uses.
 
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Hyacinth said:
It seems ok, but I don't like when the seller shows photos that aren't actually of the bag being sold. I'd rather see a closeup of where the metal Coach plaque (plaGue? Really? :laugh: ) originally was rather than pictures of the plaques on other bags And the seller says "The leather has been conditioned and oiled", but it doesn't say what kind of oil was used and there are oils that shouldn't be used on Coach leathers. For instance I've heard of people even using olive oil, which is a really bad idea. You may want to ask the seller how the bag was conditioned and what products she uses.
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Thanks very much Hyacinth!
 
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Hi! First time here & first time to get a coach bag. I found this online seller who claims to sell authentic coach bags in cheaper price. According to the seller, her items were bought from outlet stores in US and Hong Kong. It has a "made in China" tag inside and everything seems to be perfect. Bags have serial numbers also. For example, Coach The Borough Bag in Saffiano Leather #32285 (color AK/Purple Iris) has No. H1494 - 32285. Sold for 7,499 Philippine Peso. With Tag, Care Card, Dust Bag, Paper Bag.

Could it be authentic? and possible to sell these bags at such lower prices?
 
#2,736
thecollector629 said:
When it rains it pours!
Got this message and return request just now....

seller: brunodog
auction #151601179303
link: http://www.ebay.com/itm/COACH-DAISY...t-Clutch-Wallet-49397-MINT-/151601179303?rd=1

Buyer states: "
I received my item in the mail today and I am extremely disappointed! This item is a FAKE coach wallet! I insist upon returning this item for a FULL refund!"

"The stitching is crooked. Real coach bags have symmetrical stitching. Would you like me to take pictures? I own several coach wallets and the stitching never looks crooked like this. I am very disappointed."

When I asked her to please check it out or give me the opportunity to prove it is real she said I was a liar. I am literally in tears. I think I need a break from this business.
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Jeez Louise how old are some of these buyers? If you have a problem with a purchase you don't start off your negotiations by calling someone a liar. It doesn't leave you much wriggle room when you find out you jumped the gun. Life is full of disappointments and sometimes Coach is the one who does the disappointing. I feel for responsible sellers on eBay because you have to put up with the vagaries of expectations versus reality.
I have bought two counterfeit purchases. I got refunds on both of them but I was unfailingly polite to both sellers even if it was only because I had skin in the game.
 
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#2,738
CSG said:
Hi! First time here & first time to get a coach bag. I found this online seller who claims to sell authentic coach bags in cheaper price. According to the seller, her items were bought from outlet stores in US and Hong Kong. It has a "made in China" tag inside and everything seems to be perfect. Bags have serial numbers also. For example, Coach The Borough Bag in Saffiano Leather #32285 (color AK/Purple Iris) has No. H1494 - 32285. Sold for 7,499 Philippine Peso. With Tag, Care Card, Dust Bag, Paper Bag.

Could it be authentic? and possible to sell these bags at such lower prices?
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Is she a Philippines seller? The P.I. have a HUGE problem with fakes and even if you live there we don't recommend buying from Philippine sellers. Many very accuate AAA fakes are coming from or through the Philippines.

Having a serial number doesn't prove anything. Most newer fakes have the "correct" serial numbers for the purse style. Why wouldn't a fakes maker be able to or be smart enough to copy a valid serial number?

Most important - NOTHING CAN BE AUTHENTICATED WITHOUT PHOTOGRAPHS AND A LINK TO THE SELLER'S AUCTIONS OR LISTS if it's an online seller. That's explained in Post number One in this thread. If you can post links to the exact listing we can try and authenticate it, but without seeing it I would advise you not to buy it, especially since most sales in the P.I. seem to be paid for with bank transfers. If you buy a fake it's very hard if not impossible to get your money back.

Even with links and photos we still might not be able to authenticate it, since Coach stopped stamping the serial number inside the purses last year. That stamp was one of the best ways of spotting fakes, and although the recent bags usually have the serial number on a tiny tag inside the pocket it's no help except for showing the serial number.

The price is another problem. 7499 PHP is 169 US dollars. The absolute lowest price one of those has sold for on Ebay is 200 US dollars. Almost all the others have sold for at least 75 USD more than that and some for almost twice the price that seller is asking.

The price tag says the original price is 598 USD but the outlets sometimes sell them for one-half the original price on tha tag. That's still about 130 USD more than she's asking. When sellers in the US are almost always getting at least 100 USD more than she's asking, her price sounds "too good to be true".
 
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#2,739
Hyacinth said:
Is she a Philippines seller? The P.I. have a HUGE problem with fakes and even if you live there we don't revcommend buying from Philippine sellers. Many very accuate AAA fakes are coming from or through the Philippines.

Having a serial number doesn't prove anything. Most newer fakes have the "correct" serial numbers for the purse style. Why wouldn't a fakes maker be able to or be smart enough to copy a valid serial number?

Most important - NOTHING CAN BE AUTHENTICATED WITHOUT PHOTOGRAPHS AND A LINK TO THE SELLER'S AUCTIONS OR LISTS if it's an online seller. That's explained in Post number One in this thread. If you can post links to the exact listing we can try and authenticate it, but without seeing it I would advise you not to buy it, especially since most sales in the P.I. seem to be paid for with bank transfers. If you buy a fake it's very hard if not impossible to get your money back.

Even with links and photos we still might not be able to authenticate it, since Coach stopped stamping the serial number inside the purses last year. That stamp was one of the best ways of spotting fakes, and although the bags usually have the serial number on a tiny tag inside the pocket it's no help except for showing the serial number.

The price is another problem. 7499 PHP is 169 US dollars. The absolute lowest price one of those has sold for on Ebay is 200 US dollars. Almost all the others have sold for at least 75 USD more than that and some for almost twice the price that seller is asking.

The price tag says the original price is 598 USD but the outlets sometimes sell them for one-half the original price on tha tag. That's still about 130 USD more than she's asking. When sellers in the US are almost always getting at least 100 USD more than she's asking, her price sounds "too good to be true".
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Hi! Thank you for your reply. Maybe the bag I bought is not authentic. Will take pictures also so I can show you.
 
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#2,745
CSG said:
Hi! First time here & first time to get a coach bag. I found this online seller who claims to sell authentic coach bags in cheaper price. According to the seller, her items were bought from outlet stores in US and Hong Kong. It has a "made in China" tag inside and everything seems to be perfect. Bags have serial numbers also. For example, Coach The Borough Bag in Saffiano Leather #32285 (color AK/Purple Iris) has No. H1494 - 32285. Sold for 7,499 Philippine Peso. With Tag, Care Card, Dust Bag, Paper Bag.

Could it be authentic? and possible to sell these bags at such lower prices?
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Hyacinth said:
Is she a Philippines seller? The P.I. have a HUGE problem with fakes and even if you live there we don't recommend buying from Philippine sellers. Many very accuate AAA fakes are coming from or through the Philippines.

Having a serial number doesn't prove anything. Most newer fakes have the "correct" serial numbers for the purse style. Why wouldn't a fakes maker be able to or be smart enough to copy a valid serial number?

Most important - NOTHING CAN BE AUTHENTICATED WITHOUT PHOTOGRAPHS AND A LINK TO THE SELLER'S AUCTIONS OR LISTS if it's an online seller. That's explained in Post number One in this thread. If you can post links to the exact listing we can try and authenticate it, but without seeing it I would advise you not to buy it, especially since most sales in the P.I. seem to be paid for with bank transfers. If you buy a fake it's very hard if not impossible to get your money back.

Even with links and photos we still might not be able to authenticate it, since Coach stopped stamping the serial number inside the purses last year. That stamp was one of the best ways of spotting fakes, and although the recent bags usually have the serial number on a tiny tag inside the pocket it's no help except for showing the serial number.

The price is another problem. 7499 PHP is 169 US dollars. The absolute lowest price one of those has sold for on Ebay is 200 US dollars. Almost all the others have sold for at least 75 USD more than that and some for almost twice the price that seller is asking.

The price tag says the original price is 598 USD but the outlets sometimes sell them for one-half the original price on tha tag. That's still about 130 USD more than she's asking. When sellers in the US are almost always getting at least 100 USD more than she's asking, her price sounds "too good to be true".
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CSG said:
Hi! Thank you for your reply. Maybe the bag I bought is not authentic. Will take pictures also so I can show you.
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ChevaliereNoir said:
Is this the bag you bought? http://webcache.googleusercontent.c...o+Leather+%23+32285+&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us Click "view this add" if the link goes to a page that tells you the ad in inactive.
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The pictures aren't great but if I were you, I'd return it and get a refund. If they refuse and you used a credit card to pay for it, file a dispute with the card company.

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