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BASIC PICTURES REQUIRED (but more may be requested): If necessary pictures are in the listing, it's not necessary to upload and duplicate them.
  • Front of item
  • Back of item
  • Full clear and legible creed text and serial number
  • Made in tags (when available)
  • Measurements
  • For bags with turnlock closures, show pictures of back of female side of turnlock
  • For bags with magnetic snaps, show pictures of the male part of the snap so that the numbers and letters on it can be read
  • If applicable, search interior of bag and/or pockets for small white tag with production information and include a picture of that.
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sb2 said:
View attachment 3835980 Now that I have had a chance to really look over the bags I have a question. everything seems right to me but the way they stitched two of the zipper edges at the top corners, pins down the top of the bag a bit. Could it be coach just let it go or is it not authentic after all? I know you don’t like doing these bags but I would like someone else’s opinion. And I New they didn’t show what was required on eBay but I took a chance. It is only letting me load 1 pic. I will add more in a sec.
https://www.ebay.com/i/232486395003
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It's not that I don't like doing these bags. It's that they're sooooooo well faked that copious clear pictures are needed to authenticate the bags and few sellers include enough pictures and even fewer sellers know what pictures to show.

The listing you showed is for an olive bag. This is the listing you bought:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/COACH-1941-ROGUE-BAG-IN-GLOVETANNED-PEBBLE-LEATHER-BP-1941-RED-MODEL-38124-/232486395003?epid=1789656101&hash=item362144dc7b:g:R6gAAOSwb3NZuEhi&nma=true&si=gKfc3NKgjlm5%2FsBMF0DSrZl0w7c%3D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557

The RED bag you've shown in your pictures looks good. The tag looks right, details of the bag including stitching, hardware, creed, etc. are correct.

Does your bag have a white label hidden somewhere inside the bag or in the pocket? If so, would you please post a picture? I'm comfortable that your bag is authentic but I would like to see the tag.

ETA: Did you happen to check the seller's feedback before buying? Yikes! I don't think I'd have felt comfortable! These negs are just from the last 12 months. I didn't check toolhaus for older negs!
https://feedback.ebay.com/ws/eBayIS...=negative&interval=365&_trkparms=negative_365
 
#25,010
dinosaursliveamongus said:
Hello! Could someone take a look at this for me? I already purchased the bag, but found out about this forum after I bought it. I'd like to know if it is fake before I gift it to my sis. Thanks!

Item: Court 9870
Item number: 263217322705
Seller: kgb111162
Link: http://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-Coach-Court-Handbag-Shoulder-Purse-9870-Light-Brown-Hang-Tag-GVC-/263217322705?_trksid=p2047675.l2557&ssPageName=STRK:MEBIDX:IT&nma=true&si=ls0cRay5mdprmcRvuU4neFffxkg%3D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc
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It's fine and from 1996.
 
#25,012
Ireiki4u said:
Please authentic, thank you in advance, Apologies if I forgot something, all so posting extra photos. What I am not sure about is the back of the hangtag is not pink and the wording in the creed tag.

Item: coach 1941 tearose rogie 25
Link: https://poshmark.com/listing/Coach-1941-rogue-with-tea-rose-25in-59c31c8e13302a248200a811
Seller: aubwholesalef


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BeenBurned said:
I'll preface my comments by saying that I don't usually comment on Poshmark listings because I don't believe Poshmark does enough to make the site safe and honest. I also don't do business there and can't recommend PM because they've made too many mistakes, both in not recognizing fakes as such (in disputes) as well as punishing sellers of authentic bags because pM thought the items were fake.

Many of the newer bags, including the 1941 collection bags are very difficult to authenticate. The creeds have "serial numbers" that don't mean anything, and hidden labels that have information that would have been on the creed in years past.

And now, as indicated in the listing and pictures you've provided, it looks like Coach is putting the non-style number on the tags as if that's the style number!!

But not only did Coach make authenticating difficult but the counterfeiters did a really "good" job faking some of these styles. The fakes are extremely close.

I'm totally confused by this listing but because I tend to gravitate toward the more recent bags for my authentications, I think it's worth pointing out my reservations.

I do NOT know whether your bag is authentic or not but these are my concerns.
1. The poshmark listing describes the bag as style 58840, and that seems to "look like" Coach's picture:
http://www.coach.com/coach-rogue-25-with-tea-rose/58840.html

2. The "serial number" on the bag in the poshmark listing shows the serial number as EK-87065.
Another listing for the same style (58840) shows the creed as having RG-20315, a "serial number" found on other Rogues:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/New-Coach-Rogue-25-Tea-Rose-Applique-Leather-Handbag-58840-MSRP-895-/232480790631?hash=item3620ef5867:g:7uEAAOSwbtVZQxuQ&nma=true&si=gKfc3NKgjlm5%2FsBMF0DSrZl0w7c%3D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557

3. Your tag (price tag) shows 87065 as the "style number" in the upper left. However that isn't the style number and I've never seen the non-style numbers on Coach's tags. I would have expected that tag to show 58840 as the style as shown in this listing:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/NWT-COACH-1941-ROGUE-25-In-Glovetanned-Pebble-Leather-With-Tea-Rose-F58840-OLCHK-/272807574308?epid=2166455627&hash=item3f84993b24:g:qB8AAOSwMw1ZlBNy&nma=true&si=gKfc3NKgjlm5%2FsBMF0DSrZl0w7c%3D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557

4. The tag shown in the Poshmark listing has a different font and style number as compared to the others, one from the outlet and the other from a boutique bag:
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5. Between the differences above as well as the sloppy stitching, I'm not comfortable with the bag. Even if authentic, the quality seems to be lacking.

Other opinions are welcome!
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I'm late to the discussion, but the creed wording makes no sense. What is "genuine pebble"? Has Coach ever used this wording? Plus the creed stamping is fuzzy, which I think is a red flag.
 
#25,013
mrsjenbrown said:
Should I get a legible serial/creed picture first? I'm looking for a bag in decent shape, but not sure if its vintage I am after or just an era where I can be sure these Willis bags are made well. Is it better to aim for an older bag? Thanks!
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I've gotten 1999-2000 Chinese made bags that are as good quality as US or Costa Rican bags. I have a 2005 that definitely isn't as nice as my older bags. I'm only keeping because the color is unique to that year. If it were me, I would stick to bags made before 2002 for vintage or classic styles, unless I was looking for a particular color. The blue of the listing by Station_85 is probably brighter than any navy you'll find on an older bag.
 
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BeenBurned said:
It's not that I don't like doing these bags. It's that they're sooooooo well faked that copious clear pictures are needed to authenticate the bags and few sellers include enough pictures and even fewer sellers know what pictures to show.

The listing you showed is for an olive bag. This is the listing you bought:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/COACH-1941-ROGUE-BAG-IN-GLOVETANNED-PEBBLE-LEATHER-BP-1941-RED-MODEL-38124-/232486395003?epid=1789656101&hash=item362144dc7b:g:R6gAAOSwb3NZuEhi&nma=true&si=gKfc3NKgjlm5%2FsBMF0DSrZl0w7c%3D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557

The RED bag you've shown in your pictures looks good. The tag looks right, details of the bag including stitching, hardware, creed, etc. are correct.

Does your bag have a white label hidden somewhere inside the bag or in the pocket? If so, would you please post a picture? I'm comfortable that your bag is authentic but I would like to see the tag.

ETA: Did you happen to check the seller's feedback before buying? Yikes! I don't think I'd have felt comfortable! These negs are just from the last 12 months. I didn't check toolhaus for older negs!
https://feedback.ebay.com/ws/eBayIS...=negative&interval=365&_trkparms=negative_365
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Thank you BeenBurned for checking. And that is odd on the link when I click it it brings me to the right listing but yes that is the one. And yes I did see their feedback but none were for bags so I figured it was something they don’t normally deal with. I love the bag so I was hoping I did good. It was also cheaper than the listing there shows so I’m ok with it. I was just worrying about the turned in corners on the top where the zipper attaches it is pinched in and my Prussian blue I got directly from coach lays nice there. But as long as it is Authentic I can handle the zipper like that
And no there is no small tag in the pockets but my Prussian blue doesn’t have one either.
Thank you so for for checking it out!
 
#25,016
SEWDimples said:
Good Evening Authenticators,

Item: COACH 213-0930 Butterscotch Pebbled Leather East West Zip Baguette Handbag Purse
Listing number: 142515457196
Seller: chattanoogagoodwill
Link: http://www.ebay.com/itm/COACH-213-0930-Butterscotch-Pebbled-Leather-East-West-Zip-Baguette-Handbag-Purse/142515457196?_trkparms=aid=777003&algo=DISCL.MBE&ao=1&asc=47507&meid=3d9684117d9344bcbd2097689e68f0ab&pid=100013&rk=5&rkt=6&sd=112566132244&_trksid=p2047675.c100013.m1986

Comments: Please authenticate this Coach bag. TIA.
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It's authentic. Slim satchel compact from around 1980.
 
#25,019
Item: Coach 1941 varsity patch rogue
Seller: yujiw-9
Link:
Look at this on eBay http://www.ebay.com/itm/122726324523

Comment: this bag has a Creed patch that says it's a Disney X Coach limited edition dinky bag! The suede pockets are orange instead of honey suede. The patches are very poorly cut and bad quality. The Creed patch alone sets of my alarm. There's already a bid. I don't own this bag but I compared to the listing below:

Look at this on eBay http://www.ebay.com/itm/122702072450

Please confirm it's a counterfeit.
 
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houseof999 said:
Item: Coach 1941 varsity patch rogue
Seller: yujiw-9
Link:
Look at this on eBay http://www.ebay.com/itm/122726324523

Comment: this bag has a Creed patch that says it's a Disney X Coach limited edition dinky bag! The suede pockets are orange instead of honey suede. The patches are very poorly cut and bad quality. The Creed patch alone sets of my alarm. There's already a bid. I don't own this bag but I compared to the listing below:

Look at this on eBay http://www.ebay.com/itm/122702072450

Please confirm it's a counterfeit.
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yep, it is a bad fake. It isn't a Disney nor a dinky, and the words are all run together.
 
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