Authenticate This COACH - **see first post for format**

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Please post authenticity questions related to COACH in this thread. No PMs please.
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  • FOR ITEMS LISTED ONLINE:
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  • FOR ITEMS NOT LISTED ONLINE:
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BASIC PICTURES REQUIRED (but more may be requested): If necessary pictures are in the listing, it's not necessary to upload and duplicate them.
  • Front of item
  • Back of item
  • Full clear and legible creed text and serial number
  • Made in tags (when available)
  • Measurements
  • For bags with turnlock closures, show pictures of back of female side of turnlock
  • For bags with magnetic snaps, show pictures of the male part of the snap so that the numbers and letters on it can be read
  • If applicable, search interior of bag and/or pockets for small white tag with production information and include a picture of that.
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#19,981
catthecurious said:
Good morning! Several reasons for concern here:
- spelling (scrtches);
- totally different bag is listed with the same creed number; as far as I know, M4N by itself is a big red flag.
- numbers don't look like the typical ones on a vintage Coach creed.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/COACH-Vintage-Bone-Ivory-Leather-Cross-Body-Bag-4154/222388615998?_trksid=p2047675.c100009.m1982&_trkparms=aid=888007&algo=DISC.MBE&ao=1&asc=20131227121020&meid=e4caf07e5e4f492b87809ea5e95da03a&pid=100009&rk=1&rkt=2&sd=232213344381
seller: tah5j5s
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You're correct. It's fake.

It's not M4N that's the only bad part of the serial number. In fact, the whole serial, M4N-4154 is a proven fake number, NEVER on any authentic item.
 
#19,982
Ravvie99 said:
Good morning, ladies! Would you please authenticate this lot (I'm confident in the kisslock)? IF you confirm my suspicions, I'd appreciate advice on next steps. Thank you once again!

Item: Hamptons hobo
Seller: csamuel1
Listing #: 371846772520
Link: http://www.ebay.com/itm/Lot-4-VINTAGE-COACH-HANDBAGS-/371846772520?_trksid=p2047675.l2557&ssPageName=STRK:MEBIDX:IT&nma=true&si=YwKB39kufOELz1wWFGgwvB82AJ0%3D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc
Comments: think this is one of the letter + # serial # experiments

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Correction. (I didn't realize it was a lot listing at first.) The signature bag in this lot is fake. The satin Hamptons hobo and the kisslock seem okay. The patricia (asking in next post) is fine.)
Ravvie99 said:
Item: Patricia
Seller: csamuel1
Listing #: 371846772520
Link: http://www.ebay.com/itm/Lot-4-VINTAGE-COACH-HANDBAGS-/371846772520?_trksid=p2047675.l2557&ssPageName=STRK:MEBIDX:IT&nma=true&si=YwKB39kufOELz1wWFGgwvB82AJ0%3D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc

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Authentic.
Ravvie99 said:
Last one, thank you!

Item: Signature stripe shoulder tote
Seller: csamuel1
Listing #: 371846772520
Link: http://www.ebay.com/itm/Lot-4-VINTAGE-COACH-HANDBAGS-/371846772520?_trksid=p2047675.l2557&ssPageName=STRK:MEBIDX:IT&nma=true&si=YwKB39kufOELz1wWFGgwvB82AJ0%3D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc
Comments: concerns: serial #, plastic trim, hardware not brass...

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fake.
 
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#19,983
BeenBurned said:
Correction. (I didn't realize it was a lot listing at first.) The signature bag in this lot is fake. The satin Hamptons hobo and the kisslock seem okay. The last black leather bag doesn't show a creed and can't be authetnicated.

Authentic.

fake.
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My bad - my separating the lot into separate authentications is confusing! The black bag in the lot is the Patricia a few posts up, and I included a creed pic.
Thank you!
 
#19,984
Ravvie99 said:
My bad - my separating the lot into separate authentications is confusing! The black bag in the lot is the Patricia a few posts up, and I included a creed pic.
Thank you!
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Yeah, I figured that out after. I made several edits to the previous post!

So you only go the one fake in the lot. And great deal or not, you shouldn't have had to pay for it! I'm not sure what you can wrangle out of the seller as a partial for the 25% of the lot that was fake.
 
#19,985
BeenBurned said:
Yeah, I figured that out after. I made several edits to the previous post!

So you only go the one fake in the lot. And great deal or not, you shouldn't have had to pay for it! I'm not sure what you can wrangle out of the seller as a partial for the 25% of the lot that was fake.
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I see - got it, and thank you!
I'm over in the 'bay forum now trying to figure out how returns/partials work - first time, thankfully! If I pay return shipping, not convinced it's worth the hassle.
 
#19,988
likecoach said:
Thank you!
I ignore anyone stating value or rarity. I'm not buying because of perceived value, have bought enough antique furniture not to worry about that. Coach just makes lovely straightforward durable bags (they do scratch up though). Thanks for pointing out it may be so small it's useless to me. Pretty, though.
Have NO idea how you came up with list of selling prices, you are tops! Good info to consider.
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Use Ebay's Advanced Search link that's usually near the top right corner of most pages and check the Completeds box. Or if you just do a standard Search, scroll down just a bit and check the Completed Listings box on the left side of the page. Items with prices in green have been Sold for that price, prices in black weren't Sold. It's a VERY useful tool when you're trying to figure out the actual market value of recent items. For instance:
search " coach (4413,gracie) "

http://www.ebay.com/sch/Womens-Handbags-Bags/169291/i.html?_from=R40&LH_Complete=1&_nkw=coach+(4413,gracie)
 
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likecoach said:
Thank you!
I ignore anyone stating value or rarity. I'm not buying because of perceived value, have bought enough antique furniture not to worry about that. Coach just makes lovely straightforward durable bags (they do scratch up though). Thanks for pointing out it may be so small it's useless to me. Pretty, though.
Have NO idea how you came up with list of selling prices, you are tops! Good info to consider.
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Coach made two bigger styles with the same shape as Madison Gracie, the Copley and the Biltmore.
4413_4414_4417_Madison 2-tones-Spr1996 Copley Gracie Biltmore.jpg
 
#19,991
Ravvie99 said:
I see - got it, and thank you!
I'm over in the 'bay forum now trying to figure out how returns/partials work - first time, thankfully! If I pay return shipping, not convinced it's worth the hassle.
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If the seller, csamuel1 is smart, she'll tell you to dump the fake and will just give a fair partial. For SNAD, it's the seller's responsibility to cover return shipping when they want the item back. But since this item can't be resold anyway, it's a waste of time and money to take it back.
 
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#19,992
Hyacinth and whateve,
Whoa, I see, lots of Gracies.
None of that would probably ever have occured to me (well, maybe, eventually).
Hey thanks for more brochure pics, those are a lot of fun to see. I have read all Hyacinth's articles on ebay and they were very enlightening!
Missed out on the Royalton, dang it, waited too long and I knew better.
All's not lost, I'll look for a Copley! .
 
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