Asian nose job

[Butter02]

I'd love to have some company. I am planning leaving on the first week of September.

Hi thph. Are you still set for travel this month because I have been delayed until beginning of next month. Please let me know if you will still be over there at that time. Thanks

 

[asian90210]

Heya asian90210, are you intending to get your nose done by Dr Kimberly Lee or have you had surgery experience with her?

Thanks in advance for replying

Sorry it's taken me so long to respond...been out of town. I had a couple of friends who had their rhinos and eyelids done with Dr. Kimberly Lee and were really really happy with their results. They looked awesome!

 

[john1]

john1: Ear cartilage is never, ever used for the bridge; it is only used for tip work. The structure is such that it can't warp - it's kinda like minced meat lol.

"most surgeons these days use an I-shaped implant on the bridge and cartilage on the tip. so the "pole" is cartilage not silicone. silicone is on the bridge where there is not nearly as much pressure" <- Honestly, if you've read medical literature (i had the privilege, courtesy of college's subscription!), most silicon work out there is still L-shaped silicon. And seriously, no. The real world, especially in places like thailand, still uses a lot of implant only, without any added cartilage. Though the better docs like dr lee do use the implant + cartilage approach, it is still not widely adopted.

"silicone is on the bridge where there is not nearly as much pressure so to speak."<- Yea, you're right. I missed out this part. In fact, it's precisely cos the implant is on the bridge that makes things even more dangerous. The bridge CAN be quite mobile. I have friends with silicon noses and it can move. The reason why the silicon implant can stay rather stationary without wobbling about is cos right before the insertion of the implant, the doc is supposed to scrape the inner lining (periosteum of the nose) to remove some tissue, so after the implant is put in, scar tissue will grow back around the area and help to keep the implant in place <- That's the really layman explanation of it; the actual article was a lot more technical and i can't remember the exact words used but the intended meaning is there.

Rib can warp, but the occurence is very low in the hands of a skilled surgeon. Warping happens when the cartilage is trimmed/augmented into an unnatural shape or cut against the natural 'grain' of the cartilage.

I think you missed my point about caucasians + foreign implants. What i was trying to put across is that the same foreign implant in an asian can hold up relatively well compared to caucasians -only- because of the nasal skin type. I really wish i could put up some of the rhino medical articles here but i can't; my college has some way of preventing the articles from being saved. Doctors have in time past tried to use silicon for rebuilding caucasian noses in time past and the results were terrible, with extrusion occuring very soon post-surgery. For the rare caucasian without a tall and strong nose, why would he/she have septal cartilage to work with when they don't even have good nose bridge/definition. Obviously they won't. Again, i'm only talking about caucasians without a caucasian nose.

I understand that you came from having a silicon rhino done so maybe that's why you feel more compelled to 'speak up' for that method. I'm not saying -everyone- who has silicon/gortex done is definitely gonna get complications, but the risks are real.

Yes, it's sad that not many doctors in the west are not well-versed with rib/autologous rhino; but in korea/taiwan, the trend is increasingly towards rib/autologous. Which i think, is a good thing.

cerepsn:

1. yes ear is used in the bridge in some places, malaysia for one. it also has been mentioned in medical literature as an option as has rib and skull and septal. its not correct to say ear is not used in the bridge.

2. korea and usa use i-shaped for bridge and cart for tip mainly, not 100% but mostly. if that doesnt count as most, or at least the part of the world that really matters, then i stand corrected. but dont lead people to believe that silicone is bad due to the extrusion problems associated with L-shaped implants. if you find a surgeon that uses L-shaped, find a different surgeon. L-shaped implants should be excluded entirely from the conversation.

now the extrusion rate for I-shaped is not zero, but its no where near as high as L-shaped. so i think it only fair that this differentiation be made clear.

3. you make the risk of rib warping "in the hands of a skilled surgeon" sound like its zero. its not. its probably somewhere around 3% in the hands of a skilled surgeon and much higher in the unskilled hands.

4. your citing asian skin type is really irrelevant because i am assuming no one in there right mind would get an L-shaped implant.

5. i dont have an axe to grind i just want to make sure people have the correct information. i found yours a little unfairly balanced making it sound like rib was the only logical choice with very little risk. if it were, everyone would be doing rib.

i went back and forth between rib and silicone and ultimately decided on silicone.

the bottom line for me was that if something went wrong with silicone, i can always get it removed. i would have the option to replace it with silicone or rib or goretex or nothing.

but if something went wrong with rib, i would basically be screwed because it is deforming and cannot be removed easily if at all. and if it is removed there would be some residual deformity and probably would not be able to correct it.

so if people are confident that rib will not have complications, then rib is the obvious choice.

but for me, i like the fact that the silicone can be popped out very easily whether it be 1, 5, 10 or 20 years from now. i was not willing to risk having something irreversible that had a chance, however small, of going awry.

its a personal decision.

 

[cookie123]

hi .i'm vietnamese. i really want to go korean to do my nose done. i am planing to go there january 2009. i don't want to go there by myself. if your guys are vietnamese, can you contact with me? thanks.

Great choice. After months of hesitation and browsing through forums, I decided to go to Korea to get a nose job since they do call Korea the plastic surgery capital of Asia.

I went with my sister a couple years ago and we both went for the I-shaped silicon (hers was 3 mm and mine was 4mm high since our noses aren't too low to begin with). A year after my surgery, I went to get a facial and despite letting the lady know that I have a nose nose implant, she was too rough massaging my face and the implant started extruding over the next few months! So last year, I went to Korea again to fix it and that time I went for the 6mm L-shaped silicon. Btw, I did stay in Korea for another week or two to recover and noticed that so many girls walking around have their noses done - so common there!

My sister was never big on plastic surgery but her implants are all settled in and she loves it. It's been a year since my second surgery and my implant is settled in as well. Maybe because we were suuuuper cautious about the after care, we thankfully did not have any complications. We both went for the natural look and love it

 

[grapevine]

Great choice. After months of hesitation and browsing through forums, I decided to go to Korea to get a nose job since they do call Korea the plastic surgery capital of Asia.

I went with my sister a couple years ago and we both went for the I-shaped silicon (hers was 3 mm and mine was 4mm high since our noses aren't too low to begin with). A year after my surgery, I went to get a facial and despite letting the lady know that I have a nose nose implant, she was too rough massaging my face and the implant started extruding over the next few months! So last year, I went to Korea again to fix it and that time I went for the 6mm L-shaped silicon. Btw, I did stay in Korea for another week or two to recover and noticed that so many girls walking around have their noses done - so common there!

My sister was never big on plastic surgery but her implants are all settled in and she loves it. It's been a year since my second surgery and my implant is settled in as well. Maybe because we were suuuuper cautious about the after care, we thankfully did not have any complications. We both went for the natural look and love it

which was the surgeon you went to? i'm still very indecisive about whether i should get my nose done, its permanent after all!

 

[hugesmileyface]

Hello all!

I'm planning on going to see Dr. Shah for a rhinoplasty consultation. Has anyone gone to Dr. Shah for this procedure? Are you happy with the results??? Please let me know. Any information would be greatly appreciated. Thanks!

 

[katherineiish]

Hi guys!
I just wanted to introduce myself. Over the past week I've been reading through the entire thread (with a bit of cheating here and there) and I've gained sooo much knowledge from the detailed posts and experiences people have been kind enough to write.
I'm planning on getting rhinoplasty and eyelid surgery within the next few years (after I finish college!), and I would like to do it in Korea. I don't dislike my features, but I feel that with a little bit of surgery, I can look a whole lot better.
At the moment, I feel that Dr. Jung would be a good option for me, but apparently he does only noses. Do you guys feel it necessary to have eyelid surgery done in Korea? To anyone who has had eyelid surgery in the U.S., do you have a recommendation for a surgeon who does great asian eyes?

 

[katherineiish]

One more question, (one I'm sure has been asked many times on the thread, sorry!) are any of your family or friends very disapproving of you getting surgery? My parents and siblings have no idea I'm even considering the prospect of having surgery done, and they would definitely not take it well.
I know that many of you feel that it is your body/life/happiness that is most important and should be considered foremost, but I'm already nervous at this stage of planning on their reactions when they find out. I come from a very strict and close-knit family; They are extremely opposed to spending excess time or money fawning over appearances, and I'm not really looking forward to their disappointment when they find out.
I'm even trying to plan right now for an excuse for my mysterious disappearance for 2-3 weeks when the time comes!

 

[vince]

for those who have had chin implants, as anyone been very unhappy with the implant? does it ever look unnatural, or does it completely depend on the surgeon?

 

[cookie123]

which was the surgeon you went to? i'm still very indecisive about whether i should get my nose done, its permanent after all!

Permanent? I heard that you can take the implant out in the future if you want...

I went to Dr. Eungkoo Kim (www.mimoclinic.co.kr). I don't think he has an english version of the website yet but a friend of mine who went to see him recently told me that he's planning to put one up within the next few months.

I'd say, if you want the natural look, Dr. Kim does a great job. I actually got my eyes done from him as well and I've gotten many compliments (on both nose and eyes).

 

[cookie123]

Hi guys!
I just wanted to introduce myself. Over the past week I've been reading through the entire thread (with a bit of cheating here and there) and I've gained sooo much knowledge from the detailed posts and experiences people have been kind enough to write.
I'm planning on getting rhinoplasty and eyelid surgery within the next few years (after I finish college!), and I would like to do it in Korea. I don't dislike my features, but I feel that with a little bit of surgery, I can look a whole lot better.
At the moment, I feel that Dr. Jung would be a good option for me, but apparently he does only noses. Do you guys feel it necessary to have eyelid surgery done in Korea? To anyone who has had eyelid surgery in the U.S., do you have a recommendation for a surgeon who does great asian eyes?

Well, I don't know if it's necessary to have eyelid surgery in Korea but my recommendation is that if you want both your eyes and nose done, do them at once. This will just make the healing/after-care process much easier. Why go through dealing with a swollen face/eating medication/sterilizing multiple times a day to prevent an infection/etc twice when you could just kill two birds with one stone?

 

[vivi_bee]

cerepsn:

1. yes ear is used in the bridge in some places, malaysia for one. it also has been mentioned in medical literature as an option as has rib and skull and septal. its not correct to say ear is not used in the bridge.

2. korea and usa use i-shaped for bridge and cart for tip mainly, not 100% but mostly. if that doesnt count as most, or at least the part of the world that really matters, then i stand corrected. but dont lead people to believe that silicone is bad due to the extrusion problems associated with L-shaped implants. if you find a surgeon that uses L-shaped, find a different surgeon. L-shaped implants should be excluded entirely from the conversation.

now the extrusion rate for I-shaped is not zero, but its no where near as high as L-shaped. so i think it only fair that this differentiation be made clear.

3. you make the risk of rib warping "in the hands of a skilled surgeon" sound like its zero. its not. its probably somewhere around 3% in the hands of a skilled surgeon and much higher in the unskilled hands.

4. your citing asian skin type is really irrelevant because i am assuming no one in there right mind would get an L-shaped implant.

5. i dont have an axe to grind i just want to make sure people have the correct information. i found yours a little unfairly balanced making it sound like rib was the only logical choice with very little risk. if it were, everyone would be doing rib.

i went back and forth between rib and silicone and ultimately decided on silicone.

the bottom line for me was that if something went wrong with silicone, i can always get it removed. i would have the option to replace it with silicone or rib or goretex or nothing.

but if something went wrong with rib, i would basically be screwed because it is deforming and cannot be removed easily if at all. and if it is removed there would be some residual deformity and probably would not be able to correct it.

so if people are confident that rib will not have complications, then rib is the obvious choice.

but for me, i like the fact that the silicone can be popped out very easily whether it be 1, 5, 10 or 20 years from now. i was not willing to risk having something irreversible that had a chance, however small, of going awry.

its a personal decision.

The bad thing about ear cartilage is that it gets "easily" aborbed i read from two ppl that over the years it seemed to "disappear" which totally freaked me out thats why im choosing rib. Everyone has there own personal decision. For example i really do not wanna do rib because of the scar (3cm across my right breast) which freaks me out... but when considering using silicone.. i rather choose rib because rib is MY DNA MY genetics, my cousin had silicone done and after 6 yrs her tip went rib and of course because its a foreign object her body was rejecting it already (which is odd cuz 6 yrs is quite soon.. normally its 10+ yrs) of course everybody is different. I would like to have something perminent. And yes i've seen warping of rib in noses and how doctors fix it, its no problem at all.

 

[katherineiish]

Well, I don't know if it's necessary to have eyelid surgery in Korea but my recommendation is that if you want both your eyes and nose done, do them at once. This will just make the healing/after-care process much easier. Why go through dealing with a swollen face/eating medication/sterilizing multiple times a day to prevent an infection/etc twice when you could just kill two birds with one stone?

My only qualm is that it's I don't have enough time in the near future to set aside nearly a month to heal from a nose operation, whereas with eyelid surgery, it seems I'll be able to go back to things as usual within a week or two.
Another thing I'm worried about is that with eyelid surgery you're not supposed to wear contacts, right? And with rhinoplasty, you're not supposed to wear glasses for a while. So if I get both done at once, I'll be walking around nearly blind for 2+ weeks! I'd rather have my eyes done first, possibly a few years before the nose surgery to I can acclimate to the change and have my set appearance before I decide on a nose shape, etc.
Do most of you have an ideal nose that you're trying to attain? Celebrity-wise, or do you just request to have the most natural changes possible?

 

[asin]

Great choice. After months of hesitation and browsing through forums, I decided to go to Korea to get a nose job since they do call Korea the plastic surgery capital of Asia.

I went with my sister a couple years ago and we both went for the I-shaped silicon (hers was 3 mm and mine was 4mm high since our noses aren't too low to begin with). A year after my surgery, I went to get a facial and despite letting the lady know that I have a nose nose implant, she was too rough massaging my face and the implant started extruding over the next few months! So last year, I went to Korea again to fix it and that time I went for the 6mm L-shaped silicon. Btw, I did stay in Korea for another week or two to recover and noticed that so many girls walking around have their noses done - so common there!

My sister was never big on plastic surgery but her implants are all settled in and she loves it. It's been a year since my second surgery and my implant is settled in as well. Maybe because we were suuuuper cautious about the after care, we thankfully did not have any complications. We both went for the natural look and love it

that is scary!! how did the I shape implant extrude? when L shaped implants extrude, they usually do so at the tip. where would the I shaped implant extrude??

i'm glad you had that fixed and everything looks good now.

 

[philly_so_silly]

Hey!

I read a some of your posts a couple months ago and I was wondering why you didn't like your silicone implant- I want to change my bridge so that it looks thinner on the frontal view, and I was wondering whether or not it achieved that for you.

By the way, I remember you saying that you wanted to use rib to augment your bridge..i was wondering how that was working out for you. I too am thinking about augmenting my bridge with rib, and I'm finding that there are very few drs. available to do the job. I'm from California, and I've researched about Dr. Shah and Dr. Toriumi, along with Dr. Hsu and Dr. Kao in Taiwan. I was wondering how you were doing with that!

Anyway, hope to hear from you!