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Hi all, I just got my nose and eyes done around 2 weeks ago.
Right now, I feel really tired and have been having headaches ever since I
had it done. Been feeling like throwing up every once in awhile too.

I've been sleeping for like 3/4 of the time everyday ever since I got back.
Taking medicines after meals, back to sleep, awake for awhile, feeling all
uncomfortable and getting back to sleep again.

The skin around my eyes and nose feels tight too. I had an implant up in my nose as well if you're wondering.

Is it normal ? :crybaby::crybaby::crybaby:

hmmm you wouldnt still be on painkillers and antibiotics would you?
 
thanks shinangel! i haven't read anything about him yet, but thanks for the warning.

after asking dr. lasa for pictures, i haven't gotten a response. he is normally very quick to respond - usually within several hours to a day. i e-mailed dr. lorenzo earlier today, and found a blog that he had written on rhinoplasty. surprisingly, he listed dr. lasa as a reputable rhinoplasty surgeon, along with himself, of course. i really don't know what to think now. i can't find any reviews on either doctor, and i just found a filippino forum about rhinoplasty, but the problem is it's half english and half tagalog. there was a member who had written of a bad experience with a local doctor, and from what i can make of it, i don't think it's dr. lasa or lorenzo. :confused1:


i'm now considering dr. edwin paul v. magallona from the philippines, but i'll have to PM john1 for his advice on dr. lee. i saw a picture on his results page of a girl who had a nose similar to mine before she had her surgery, and afterward she came out with a "pug" nose. i'm scared that will end up being my nose too if i choose dr. lee as my surgeon.

Well, as reputed as Dr. Lansangan might be, I have read a few bad reviews on him in this very thread. When I posted my experience, somebody replied to me that 3 of his friends who went under the above mentioned surgeon faced the same problem as me (I have to look up his pseudo if you want any references). Another person told that, when consulting him, she had the impression he was kind of pushy. As for me, he told that I would need a chin implant (to balance out the bloody 5mm augmentation that was definitely not indicated for me), while that was absolutely not necessary, especially if the augmentation was to be subtle. I've mailed him many times to ask him my medical report, but he would ignore my request. Of course, he wouldn't admit neither that he screwed my nose by performing nearly irreversible procedures which I hadn't ask for. OK, I admit, I should have done more research and be more careful. But at least, I've learnt my lesson.
 
Hi all, I just got my nose and eyes done around 2 weeks ago.
Right now, I feel really tired and have been having headaches ever since I
had it done. Been feeling like throwing up every once in awhile too.

I've been sleeping for like 3/4 of the time everyday ever since I got back.
Taking medicines after meals, back to sleep, awake for awhile, feeling all
uncomfortable and getting back to sleep again.

The skin around my eyes and nose feels tight too. I had an implant up in my nose as well if you're wondering.

Is it normal ? :crybaby::crybaby::crybaby:

I wouldn't worry too much about the skin of your eyes and nose feeling tight. It will loosen as time passes.

As for the other symptoms, you might need to ask your surgeon. I can't remember having faced similar problems after two weeks post-op.
 
Hi did anyone who went overseas to do their nose buy travel insurance? If so how much? Do you recommend it?? thanks XD


I took a travel insurance that would last up to 1 year (because I needed it anyway for my 1-year program in Japan as an exchange student). So it covered my trip to the Philippines, which was to be made within that year.

Prices vary strongly depending on the insurance company. If you are still a student, try to figure out if they don't have special policies for students. Besides, as there is a wide range of policies you could choose from, you don't need to take an annual insurance.

In the end, it is up to you whether you want to take the risk of not buying an insurance. You might have bad luck as much as you might have good luck. You could lose your luggage, have an accident on the spot, need to cancel your trip last-minute, ...
 
I'm still on antibiotics.

those can make you nauseous. not sure about tired. i only wuz on anti for 3-5 days so mebbe u can check with your doc about going off them and seeing if that relieves your symptoms.

but i was active a few days after surgery so you should check with your doc as to why you are lethargic. mebbe u are allergic or something.

as for the tightness, i agree with the other poster. for me that lasted about 4 weeks. i had eyes and nose too.
 
I'm hoping it's the antibiotics that's causing me to feel this way. I was active during the first week after op when I was given painkillers. Stopped taking painkillers after a week. Ever since then I've been feeling tired and nauseous. My doctor doesn't stay in contact with patients.
 
shinangel, out of curiosity i just took a look at dr. lansangan's page, and wow! i'm even more thankful that you mentioned him, because if i had seen his page, i would have been completely fooled. he has a numerous amount of very good "after" photos! whether photoshopped or not, i have to admit it looks like he is a very good surgeon.

i have heard from both dr. carlos lasa, and dr. lorenzo. it was very surprising, because they actually e-mailed me back within 5 minutes of each other. dr. lorenzo seemed very kind in his e-mail, and i probably need to be kicked for this, but he scored some bonus points in my book since he included bible quotes at the end of his e-mail. (i must be a sucker, yes.) anyway, dr. lasa told me that he would not be able to e-mail me any photos of his work to protect the confidentiality of his patients and that i will have to fly out to the philippines for a consultation. right now, i'm leaning toward dr. lorenzo, but either way, i'd be spending $700 for a flight out to the philippines.
 
shinangel, out of curiosity i just took a look at dr. lansangan's page, and wow! i'm even more thankful that you mentioned him, because if i had seen his page, i would have been completely fooled. he has a numerous amount of very good "after" photos! whether photoshopped or not, i have to admit it looks like he is a very good surgeon.

i have heard from both dr. carlos lasa, and dr. lorenzo. it was very surprising, because they actually e-mailed me back within 5 minutes of each other. dr. lorenzo seemed very kind in his e-mail, and i probably need to be kicked for this, but he scored some bonus points in my book since he included bible quotes at the end of his e-mail. (i must be a sucker, yes.) anyway, dr. lasa told me that he would not be able to e-mail me any photos of his work to protect the confidentiality of his patients and that i will have to fly out to the philippines for a consultation. right now, i'm leaning toward dr. lorenzo, but either way, i'd be spending $700 for a flight out to the philippines.
 
shinangel, i also just looked at your before and after photos. the after result actually doesn't look so bad. i can tell from studying it, though, that one nostril is smaller. i can totally understand what you mean when you say your implant shifted, too. i am vietnamese also, and your nose looks similar to mine.

here are my before and after photos from my US surgeon. the two pictures on the left side (side B) are my before pictures, and the two pictures on the right side (side A) are my after pictures. i don't know what happened, but the implant kind of curves at the tip. i also don't think i needed that much height added onto my nose. it just looks very fake. i think when i do my revision, i will get the implant removed and just fix the tip combined with the alar reduction.

http://asiangirl84.zooloo.com/uploads/photo/25513_20090906_CR-YeqH3yaxkQ.JPG
 
hello everyone

found this on dr. lasangan(spelling?) site.

"however there is growing evidence nowadays on the deposition of calcium crystals on a prolonged implant (red arrow). The crystals causes nasal bridge irregularity and in one study (Kim et.al) shows evidence to be pre-carcinogenic, suggesting to change the implant every 20 years – similar to breast cohesive gel implants."

http://www.shimmianmanila.com/side-effects-of-silicone-implant

is this true? omg...

also with gortex, i heard that the implant eventually shrinks. as much as 40 %.. is this true as well?

thanks for any input!
 
Hey guys, does anyone know if ALAR PLASTY can change the shape & positioning the nostrils (with respect to the tip) from the type on the leftmost girl to the type on the center.......

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Right now my nose tip & nostrils resemble those of the girl on the very left....but I really want the down-ward pointing tip of the girl in the center (Pan Chen, one of top 10 Super Girls '09, basically the Chinese version of "American Idol"). I've done a lot of facial analyses of photos (of people I consider attractive) and thought about what best fits my face....and it truly is that type of downward-pointing tip that works.

But to go from the typical Asian tip/nostril (e.g. left-most girl) to the DOWNWARD-POINTING TIP of the girl in the middle.....is that where ALAR-PLASTY comes in?? Is there some way to reduce the size of those two little "tabs" on the left & right-hand side?

Does it also involve adding extra cartilage to the tip to make it droop more? (that's sort of like Dr. Tseng's aesthetic, except more drooping than he adds....but I heard that he actually adds a layer of silicone to the columella area/bottom of tip to achieve that droopy look.....and that sounds really suspect to me in terms of long-term safety....can't risk artificial implants in the tip area, only bridge/top portion and all autologous cartilage for the tip portion).

BTW here are more photos of the DOWNWARD-POINTING TIP on that girl

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I just had my rhino 2 weeks ago (I-shaped silicone, with ear cartilage for tip) and have been quietly (but impatiently) waiting for the results to show. For some reason I recovered extremely quickly and didn't experience excessive swelling (just a bit, more of asymmetric swelling from week 1 to week 2....that has since subsided). Well, in terms of the silicone implant selection & placement and bridge & side profile.....it's fantastic.....the bridge and side profile (and basically the nose MINUS the tip) turned out almost exactly the way I dreamed of. I'm soooo glad I went with the 5mm implant and didn't opt for a lower implant or conservative change. 5mm made the difference that I wanted; yes in some photos now I do look a tiny bit Eurasian (just a bit), but I have no complaints about that as I definitely look better post-op than pre-op. I'd probably opt for even higher, i.e. 6-7mm implant, with goretex if I have to get a full revision later on.

HOWEVER, I still despise my tip and nostril positioning.....and think I'll have to get alar-plasty and/or possibly tip-plasty re-done later.....unless some miracle happens in the next 6 months, which I highly doubt. My family thinks I'm crazy though, as does my surgeon.....but I had a truly specific look in mind and don't want to settle for less. I love my bridge the way it is now and really want to avoid tampering with that for the time being (who knows, a revision could screw that part up), so I'm wondering if it's possible to get alar-plasty and/or tip-plasty revision while keeping the silicone implant intact (or do surgeons handling revisions insist on revising everything and replacing the implant)?.

I just really regret not going full out and getting alar-plasty when I got my rhino......in retrospect it seems that changing the nostril shape from circular to oval (typical of Caucasian noses) and reducing the size of the nostrils (even just a small reduction in size) can make a drastic difference. Case in point is the Vietnamese girl's nose on Dr. Toriumi's website.....he modified the shape of her nostrils and it obviously affected the tip and projection. According to all the surgeons I'd consulted alar reduction was "not really necessary" for my case and it would be my prerogative whether to add that option......but to obtain a truly truly beautiful nose (not just an above-average nose) I think I needed to go all-out and not hold back.
 
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