Ashley Graham - "plus sized" Sports Illustrated cover

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Not at all. If you look like Ashley, fine, wear clingy clothes. But I saw a woman at the car wash the other day who was morbidly obese - I'm talking big rolls of fat - wearing a super clingy dress. Maybe her man liked it but it was not a good look. When I see people like this I wonder if they have a mirror.
I get what you're saying but sometimes you guys attribute far too much credit to celebs posted here than they truly deserve....like with the Kardashians. I don't in anyway believe Ashley is responsible for big girls dressing sexy. The responsibility lies with the retailers who realized that women in America are overwhelmingly overweight. What used to be traditional retailers, only catering up to a size 10 or 12, began to expand their sizes to include plus sized; it's a money thing. Just look at a trendy shop like Fashion Nova...they go up to a 3x, I believe. They know where to make money and they're not the only ones. Before they made "sexy" clothes in larger sizes, women couldn't wear it so you didn't see it as much. It's no different from Victoria Secret realizing that they are losing out on revenues because they don't make bras in larger cup sizes.

Ashley is not the first plus sized model. I remember Emme from the 90s...she was all over the place and praised the same as Ashley; she just didn't have the benefit of social media and internet message boards. But trust and believe that the retailers are more influential than any one of these models.
 
I get what you're saying but sometimes you guys attribute far too much credit to celebs posted here than they truly deserve....like with the Kardashians. I don't in anyway believe Ashley is responsible for big girls dressing sexy. The responsibility lies with the retailers who realized that women in America are overwhelmingly overweight. What used to be traditional retailers, only catering up to a size 10 or 12, began to expand their sizes to include plus sized; it's a money thing. Just look at a trendy shop like Fashion Nova...they go up to a 3x, I believe. They know where to make money and they're not the only ones. Before they made "sexy" clothes in larger sizes, women couldn't wear it so you didn't see it as much. It's no different from Victoria Secret realizing that they are losing out on revenues because they don't make bras in larger cup sizes.

Ashley is not the first plus sized model. I remember Emme from the 90s...she was all over the place and praised the same as Ashley; she just didn't have the benefit of social media and internet message boards. But trust and believe that the retailers are more influential than any one of these models.
Point taken. But Ashley is getting a lot of positive attention now so I think there will be more young girls who may be obese thinking it's ok to dress sexy. In fact, one of the main points she was making with Bevy was she looks better in clingy clothes and can wear as small as a size 8 for that reason. Fine for her but not for everyone IMO.
 
Point taken. But Ashley is getting a lot of positive attention now so I think there will be more young girls who may be obese thinking it's ok to dress sexy. In fact, one of the main points she was making with Bevy was she looks better in clingy clothes and can wear as small as a size 8 for that reason. Fine for her but not for everyone IMO.
Of course you're going to get folks who are obese who are finding it okay to dress sexy just like you'll find women in their 60s who think it's okay to not "dress her age". Times are a changing...don't know if it's much more than that...people bucking conventional/traditional norms of what society say they should look like given age, gender, race, etc. Not everything is made for everyone but if someone's willing to make it, you'll find people wanting to wear it.
 
Point taken. But Ashley is getting a lot of positive attention now so I think there will be more young girls who may be obese thinking it's ok to dress sexy. In fact, one of the main points she was making with Bevy was she looks better in clingy clothes and can wear as small as a size 8 for that reason. Fine for her but not for everyone IMO.

I have to ask... What's wrong with that exactly? One of the perks of living in a free society is the the ability to do as you please.
 
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I already responded that the people I'm thinking of are the morbidly obese wearing very clingy outfits. Just my opinion. I'm not looking to go to war on this.
What exactly would the morbidly obese wear that isn't clingy? I just don't see very many clothing options that wouldn't cling if one is that obese.
 
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Oh, so a spandex dress is the only thing an obese person can get on their body?
No. I was actually asking a serious question. What would someone who is morbidly obese wear that doesn't cling or fit tightly? When I hear morbidly obese, I'm visualizing John Candy/Gabourey Sidibe at their biggest and folks bigger. Unless Gabourey was essentially wearing a tent dress, anything she wore was clingy.
 
No. I was actually asking a serious question. What would someone who is morbidly obese wear that doesn't cling or fit tightly? When I hear morbidly obese, I'm visualizing John Candy/Gabourey Sidibe at their biggest and folks bigger. Unless Gabourey was essentially wearing a tent dress, anything she wore was clingy.
I imagine it would be hard for someone like Gabourney at her biggest to find clothes. But if it was a choice between a spandex dress and a tent or caftan (like Andre Leon Talley wears), I'd take the caftan. The woman I commented on in the spandex dress wasn't as large as that but she had lots of rolls of fat showing in a very very clingy dress. She could have easily purchased a shift or tunic of some sort in maybe a 2X size....maybe even 1X. She was with a man and maybe he liked the way she looked. But if it was me, I'd rather cover my flaws. And I do have things I cover even though I'm not really obese.
 
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