Ashley Graham - "plus sized" Sports Illustrated cover

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#601
Charles said:
Because she's being presented as a role model. And yes, I feel if a model is unhealthily skinny, she should try to work towards a healthy lifestyle.
As I said, I think it's great she's saying women shouldn't hate on themselves, but I also think she should encourage a healthy lifestyle as well. As it's coming across now, it seems shes telling women it's cool to be overweight and no need to change anything...which isn't a positive message.
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Many models are unhealthily skinny, but I don't see anyone expecting them to demonstrate how to be "healthy." We are more apt to hear about some bizarro-land diet.

Ashley, even though it is completely unnecessary, talks about her workout routines, eating habits and all sorts of other aspects of her life.

Just because you are overweight, doesn't mean you should stay home and harp on it all day. Just because you are overweight doesn't mean you have unhealthy habits.

Ashley's message is positive and important. You should accept yourself as you are today. You only get one body and one life - you shouldn't put your life on hold and hate yourself because for some people it isn't "acceptable."

And everyone - no matter what size / weight / shape they are should focus on eating well and staying active. Whether or not that impacts the scale.
 
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jade said:
Many models are unhealthily skinny, but I don't see anyone expecting them to demonstrate how to be "healthy." We are more apt to hear about some bizarro-land diet.

Ashley, even though it is completely unnecessary, talks about her workout routines, eating habits and all sorts of other aspects of her life.

Just because you are overweight, doesn't mean you should stay home and harp on it all day. Just because you are overweight doesn't mean you have unhealthy habits.

Ashley's message is positive and important. You should accept yourself as you are today. You only get one body and one life - you shouldn't put your life on hold and hate yourself because for some people it isn't "acceptable."

And everyone - no matter what size / weight / shape they are should focus on eating well and staying active. Whether or not that impacts the scale.
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OMG THIS! It reminds me of when Gigi lost all that weight and everyone was wondering what "diet" she was on. Also Beyonce's master cleanse for Dream Girls. NOT HEALTHY!
 
#603
kkfiregirl said:
Beauty is pain girl [emoji6]
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I'll take ugly! Ok, well I DID have my face tattooed. Eyeliner and brows.

But Ashley....I didn't know of her before this post. (Yes, I DO live under a rock) I am not impressed. I do believe that Big Beautiful Women need to be represented in this world, but she doesn't do it for me.

I speak from experience of looking for cute clothing. Looking at fashion magazines. Being the heaviest person in the room. No longer for me, thanks to weight loss surgery. I am healthier now, clothing fits for the most part, and shopping is GREAT fun!
 
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I'm no expert but to me, Ashley looks like a Mother Nature perfect woman. Not a product of BMI charts or insurance charts, created by man for mostly likely money. She looks like the woman who's perfect (by nature) for being fertile and creating life. In other words, she's got dem child-bearin' hips!
 
#605
I think Ashley is pretty and would probably be hilarious at happy hour. That makes her a thumbs up to me. We can invite Kate Upton too. She seems like she'd be a fun addition to a girls night out.
 
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I'm not talking about what other people do or say or expect models to do. I'm talking about what I expect. To me, ALL models are role models specifically for their bodies, whether they admit to it or whether you admit to it. For the longest time, super skinny models were spoken about cause teens were looking up to them, trying to look like them, and developing eating disorders. I'v ehad friends in the industry who were told they were too fat when they were at a perfectly healthy weight. I've had friends who starved themselves for modeling jobs. A few designers specifically said they wouldn't use that look to make a statement. So yes, skinny models have come under fire too and I feel the same way about them. I see Ashley as an obvious opposite to that. She's overweight. That's unhealthy. Period. So whether you care or don't, I do. I don't want teens looking up to her and thinking that since they look like her, it's OK to not try to be healthy, be active, and eat a smart diet. Obesity is an issue in the US, so I'm going to talk to it. IDGAF is you aren't unbiased enough to understand it has nothing to do with misogyny. This isn't about other models. This is about Ashley because she's been promoted due to her weight/body specifically. This also has nothing to do with her personality. I'm sure she's an amazing person. Not the point here
 
#609
Charles said:
I don't want teens looking up to her and thinking that since they look like her, it's OK to not try to be healthy, be active, and eat a smart diet. Obesity is an issue in the US, so I'm going to talk to it.
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And if you paid even a small amount of attention to what Ashley does portray - she talks about eating healthily, her workout routine and so on. 1/3 of her Instagram pics are her at the gym - so it looks like you are the one assuming she doesn't exercise or eat healthfully. Yet she is still overweight.

The problem in America is we give a free pass on actually acting healthy if you look the "right" way, instead of actually focusing on making sure healthy behaviors are a part or everyone's life no matter what they look like!
 
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Grace123 said:
I'm no expert but to me, Ashley looks like a Mother Nature perfect woman. Not a product of BMI charts or insurance charts, created by man for mostly likely money. She looks like the woman who's perfect (by nature) for being fertile and creating life. In other words, she's got dem child-bearin' hips!
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That may be so, but I have seen the tiniest women get pregnant and give birth. Fertility comes in all shapes and sizes, yes ma'am.
 
#613
If people in the public eye are automatically role models, I think there's a problem. People in the public eye have all the same issues that "average" people have - they struggle with their weight, or substance abuse, or relationship issues or politics or domestic abuse or any number of other things. What we need to tell our daughters and sons is not that these are the people they ought to look up to, but that they are individuals in the same way everyone else is: some are worthy of respect and admiration and many are not. Which ones are which are obviously up to the parent and/or individual to decide.

Ashley is an advertising tool, just the same as thinner models. She is used to advertise to women and men who want to see a representation of themselves, and to sell a certain size clothing. She isn't a role model and didn't sign up to be one, just like athletes signed up to play the sport and get paid, not to be someone for your kids to look up to. These are real people with real struggles, and in the end it is often all about the paycheck for them much like it often is for people who are not in the public eye.

If we feel our kids are idolizing someone in the public eye, we have the responsibility to talk with them and discuss it. I cannot condone the idea of transferring that responsibility to every model, every athlete, every actor, every comedian, etc. We cannot expect those people to be any more perfect or worthy of respect and copy-catting than anyone else, and we need to stop pretending that what our kids think is more their responsibility than our own as parents.
 
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