Was at Celine in STockholm today (bought a Belt in navy blue with SHW), the SA told me they got the information that Frame and Clasp will be discontinued,
Any guesses or speculation for Hedi’s 1st collection?
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Did they have a lot of different belt bags left in stock in Stockholm? And also, did you notice if any other colors than blue were offered if SHW?
I have to say that I feel a bit silly and shallow for being this worked up about a fashion brand.
But i’m gutted.
This was my favorite brand and I’m almost in mourning.
I guess this just really felt like a brand for women and about women and his direction almost feels disrespectful of that legacy.
Again I realize that this is just clothes and that life goes on but ugh.
But i’m gutted.
This was my favorite brand and I’m almost in mourning.
I guess this just really felt like a brand for women and about women and his direction almost feels disrespectful of that legacy.
Again I realize that this is just clothes and that life goes on but ugh.
I have been told that this season there is only the navy blue with SHW. It is apparently not that common for Celine bags according to several SAs.
No, the stock in Stockholm is poor. If you dont buy what you see its gone probably the same day. A lot of waiting lists. It sounded like what is one the shelf is what they have. One mini belt in black smooth leather with white tread, light yellow and light blue in nano size. That is what i saw, and it sounded like there was nothing more. A few cabas, trio aand a model i dont know the name of, quite big with a buckle.. one SA said its the first time they have more shoes then bags on the shelves..
They do ship if the total is over $2500. The shipping fee is $125 and the custom fees are paid by the client.
Via WWD, here are Hedi's first comments on the reception to his debut CELINE collection:
These quotes are all excerpts from a longer email interview. The rest of its contents will come in the near future.
“It’s always very jarring and I always feel like people are talking about someone else. Besides, the spirit of the show was light and joyful, but lightness and insouciance are being called into question these days. I’ve already been through this at Saint Laurent,” Slimane was quoted as saying.
“You’re dealing with politics, conflicts of interest, cliques, a predictable attitude, but also staggering exaggerations of conservatism and puritanism,” the designer added. “Violence is a reflection of our time – the rabble-rousing spirit of social networks, despite the fact that they are a formidable community tool. There are no longer any limits, hatred is amplified and takes over.”
“Does this mean women are no longer free to wear miniskirts if they wish? The comparisons to ***** are opportunistic, rather bold and fairly comical, just because the young women in my show are liberated and carefree. They are free to dress as they see fit,” he said.
“For some in America, I also have the poor taste of being a man who is succeeding a woman. You could read into that a subtext of latent homophobia that is quite surprising. Is a man drawing women’s collections an issue?” Slimane questioned.
“At the end of the day, all of this is unexpected publicity for this collection. We didn’t expect as much. Above all, it crystallizes a very French form of anti-conformism and freedom of tone at Celine,” he said.
“You’re dealing with politics, conflicts of interest, cliques, a predictable attitude, but also staggering exaggerations of conservatism and puritanism,” the designer added. “Violence is a reflection of our time – the rabble-rousing spirit of social networks, despite the fact that they are a formidable community tool. There are no longer any limits, hatred is amplified and takes over.”
“Does this mean women are no longer free to wear miniskirts if they wish? The comparisons to ***** are opportunistic, rather bold and fairly comical, just because the young women in my show are liberated and carefree. They are free to dress as they see fit,” he said.
“For some in America, I also have the poor taste of being a man who is succeeding a woman. You could read into that a subtext of latent homophobia that is quite surprising. Is a man drawing women’s collections an issue?” Slimane questioned.
“At the end of the day, all of this is unexpected publicity for this collection. We didn’t expect as much. Above all, it crystallizes a very French form of anti-conformism and freedom of tone at Celine,” he said.
These quotes are all excerpts from a longer email interview. The rest of its contents will come in the near future.
Thanks for sharing, @MonsieurMode!
Wow, the guy lost it completely. He just doesn't get it (not that we didn't know that already from the collection). Homophobia? Seriously? That's the best he could come up with?
Wow, the guy lost it completely. He just doesn't get it (not that we didn't know that already from the collection). Homophobia? Seriously? That's the best he could come up with?
Dude's delusional...
"They are free to dress as they see fit,” Sure... only if it fits into his idea of an emaciated rock-and-roll groupie aesthetic...
Respectfully? What a load of waffle.
He vacillates between being an 'unfair target' to being 'righteous crusader'. Pointing out the "subtext of latent homophobia" is rather ridiculous and describing valid criticisms as simply as "a man drawing women's collections" misses the point entirely. No one attacked his sexual orientation, merely pointed out that the times we live in should be reflected in some way in his work. They're not "carefree" in the sense that they're not representative of today's diverse consumer. Can you only be carefree and liberated if you're a skin and bones white 17 year-old? Based on his show, apparently that's the case. And yet reality is much more different. We are all anxious, worried, and afraid - particularly those of us who don't live in privileged circles. And even those of us who live comfortably aren't immune to objectification, harassment, racism and sexism. If he were to address that head-on by making a statement on the runway referring to this overall mood, and by diversifying his runway, the reviews wouldn't have been as harsh. People want to escape, sure. But we want an escape grounded in reality that reminds us who we are and what we are aspiring to be, not stuck in a bubble. We're in the age of social media and social justice, more conscious and engaged about issues that matter to us.
I'll give him this though. He definitely got dropped in the deep end by LVMH after Philo. For someone who's been presumptive heir to 'xyz' because of his hype, it's almost unfair to come on the heels of someone who empowered women to dress beyond looking like Lolitas. Of course we're allowed to wear whatever the hell we want, miniskirts and all, but so far all he's shown is that is all we're fit to wear. There was simply no respect for his predecessor and what she gave us women. He just waltzed in and threw everything out, expecting everyone to love him as usual because of his name and not because of his talent. The designer-audience relationship isn't a one way street.
Listen, if he wants to focus on the tailoring, then do that. Use that as a jumping off point. But don't make excuses and whine about the reception you get when clearly, you expect everything handed to you.
He vacillates between being an 'unfair target' to being 'righteous crusader'. Pointing out the "subtext of latent homophobia" is rather ridiculous and describing valid criticisms as simply as "a man drawing women's collections" misses the point entirely. No one attacked his sexual orientation, merely pointed out that the times we live in should be reflected in some way in his work. They're not "carefree" in the sense that they're not representative of today's diverse consumer. Can you only be carefree and liberated if you're a skin and bones white 17 year-old? Based on his show, apparently that's the case. And yet reality is much more different. We are all anxious, worried, and afraid - particularly those of us who don't live in privileged circles. And even those of us who live comfortably aren't immune to objectification, harassment, racism and sexism. If he were to address that head-on by making a statement on the runway referring to this overall mood, and by diversifying his runway, the reviews wouldn't have been as harsh. People want to escape, sure. But we want an escape grounded in reality that reminds us who we are and what we are aspiring to be, not stuck in a bubble. We're in the age of social media and social justice, more conscious and engaged about issues that matter to us.
I'll give him this though. He definitely got dropped in the deep end by LVMH after Philo. For someone who's been presumptive heir to 'xyz' because of his hype, it's almost unfair to come on the heels of someone who empowered women to dress beyond looking like Lolitas. Of course we're allowed to wear whatever the hell we want, miniskirts and all, but so far all he's shown is that is all we're fit to wear. There was simply no respect for his predecessor and what she gave us women. He just waltzed in and threw everything out, expecting everyone to love him as usual because of his name and not because of his talent. The designer-audience relationship isn't a one way street.
Listen, if he wants to focus on the tailoring, then do that. Use that as a jumping off point. But don't make excuses and whine about the reception you get when clearly, you expect everything handed to you.
LVMH chairman and chief executive officer Bernard Arnault has said he expects the “global superstar” designer to herald a doubling or tripling of Celine’s turnover within five years. Asked by Prigent what he thought of the first collection, France’s wealthiest man said: “I loved it!”
It says it right there on the tin, lol.
His response certainly is tone deaf.
Calling passionate patrons puritanical homophobes.
He surely knows how to connect with his audience.
Calling passionate patrons puritanical homophobes.
He surely knows how to connect with his audience.
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I think they must be ecstatic by the noise so that they (Slimane and LVMH) can focus the discussion on the gender and ‘politics’ issue. That way there’s is no talking about how boring and lazy the collection really was...
And yet, Arnault May well be right about tripling the turnover...
And yet, Arnault May well be right about tripling the turnover...