2020 resolution - shopping my own bag and wallet collection. Any one else?

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OOH! Which languages do you speak? Did you learn them in school or organically growing up?

I’m soooo frustrated that I didn’t aggressively learn languages in school forward. It’s rough going trying to learn when NO ONE around me speaks the language. :-s I’ve thought about doing a 2 week immersion class next year. I’d hope to be at a level that would make that a good investment of time by then.

I promised myself I’ll be at least intermediate plus level in 2 “foreign” languages in 5 years. From what I’ve read, that’s an aggressive goal but, I want to talk to my Dad’s family (French) and the bulk of local non English speakers (Spanish) easily. :tup:
I love your description of your French language skills. If you can ask for couture and a glass of wine, what else could you need? :roflmfao:

Oú est le toilette?
Merci beaucoup!

because if you know those two phrases, you can say:
Oú est Rue du Faubourg Saint-Honoré?
 
Did you end up having fun restoring it? What was it?
I've just started. It'll take at least a week. It's in pretty sad shape. Most of the trim has darkened and is worn. It is completely worn through on the corners. This is a picture of what I hope it will look like when it's done. It's black and tan. The picture looks green.
 

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I've just started. It'll take at least a week. It's in pretty sad shape. Most of the trim has darkened and is worn. It is completely worn through on the corners. This is a picture of what I hope it will look like when it's done. It's black and tan. The picture looks green.
Can we see a before shot?
 
Given that we are a global group, I’d like to get your perspective on something.

I am a native English speaker and list items in English. But, I’ve noticed over the years that some buyers will ask me questions in a different language. That means I have to use Google translate to understand and respond. No biggie but....hmmmm

The few times I’ve engaged with a buyer that listed in a different language (this usually happens on Vestiaire) I did the translation and sent my questions to them in the language of the listing.

My thought is that in initiating contact, I should make the attempt to speak the language of the other person. (It’s also why people in various counties have suffered through my mangling efforts when I travel. LOL!!!) I just feel it’s polite.

What do you say? Is there a cross cultural shopping etiquette of which I’m not aware? Would you engage with a buyer who reached out on a language you didn’t know? A seller? Would you worry the language barrier could result in a issue due to miscommunication?
I believe when people from another country ask me questions on ebay, ebay may automatically translate the message. I don't think I've ever gotten a message in another language. There is usually a banner on the ebay message that says the buyer may not speak English, although I've seen that banner for Canadians that live in an English speaking province. I wouldn't feel comfortable responding in another language as there could be a translating issue and I might be saying something other than what I mean. My French and Spanish are rusty. I can order in a restaurant and I can ask for bolsas in a thrift store. That's about it. My observation is that most people who don't speak English know about as many words in English as I know in their language, and those are the same common expressions, such as thank you. The Japanese sellers I've dealt with usually communicate well in English.

I'm sure there is a language barrier that could result in miscommunication. Have you seen Japanese listings on Ebay? Some of the descriptions make no sense. One expression they use all the time, is something like "has a feeling" to describe the amount of wear on a purse. I have no idea what that means.
 
I've just started. It'll take at least a week. It's in pretty sad shape. Most of the trim has darkened and is worn. It is completely worn through on the corners. This is a picture of what I hope it will look like when it's done. It's black and tan. The picture looks green.
Can’t wait to see! I wish I had this ability. Often I see (once) pretty Chanel or Dior bags. I pass because I know I can’t do much yet I’m too picky to send it to someone who will get it to 85%.
That being said, I think Coach lends itself to this process. Vintage Coach had leathers and construction to rival just about anything on the planet.
I believe when people from another country ask me questions on ebay, ebay may automatically translate the message. I don't think I've ever gotten a message in another language. There is usually a banner on the ebay message that says the buyer may not speak English, although I've seen that banner for Canadians that live in an English speaking province. I wouldn't feel comfortable responding in another language as there could be a translating issue and I might be saying something other than what I mean. My French and Spanish are rusty. I can order in a restaurant and I can ask for bolsas in a thrift store. That's about it. My observation is that most people who don't speak English know about as many words in English as I know in their language, and those are the same common expressions, such as thank you. The Japanese sellers I've dealt with usually communicate well in English.

I'm sure there is a language barrier that could result in miscommunication. Have you seen Japanese listings on Ebay? Some of the descriptions make no sense. One expression they use all the time, is something like "has a feeling" to describe the amount of wear on a purse. I have no idea what that means.
Yes. The “has a feeling” always tickles me.

More importantly, though, when I see poorly translated listings it makes me lose faith in the seller. :shrugs:
 
Can’t wait to see! I wish I had this ability. Often I see (once) pretty Chanel or Dior bags. I pass because I know I can’t do much yet I’m too picky to send it to someone who will get it to 85%.
That being said, I think Coach lends itself to this process. Vintage Coach had leathers and construction to rival just about anything on the planet.
Yes. The “has a feeling” always tickles me.

More importantly, though, when I see poorly translated listings it makes me lose faith in the seller. :shrugs:
I've rehabbed a few vintage Gucci, Fendi, and Dooney and Bourke. I've rehabbed a ton of vintage Coach. They are the most forgiving. They were really made to last. Some of the other brands have linings that disintegrated over time. They didn't use any glues on vintage Coach that could melt and stain the leather (I discovered this the hard way with other brands). They can be safely washed in soapy water. The dyes used went all the way through the leather so usually conditioning is all that is needed to bring the color back. Spectator bags like this one are tricky. The brown trim will need some redyeing. It will difficult keeping it off the black leather. The black leather is in excellent condition.
 
Ok, purse peeps, how are you doing with the social distancing / quarantine? Our metro area extended this thru May 20.

:panic::faint::panic::faint:(Live action footage of me losing it in my living room upon hearing the news)

OK, seriously. I need to think differently. I fully believe we will be on lockdown for another 3-6 months. What are your non business ideas to continue to grow / be engaged / socialize etc. during this time?
 
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I've rehabbed a few vintage Gucci, Fendi, and Dooney and Bourke. I've rehabbed a ton of vintage Coach. They are the most forgiving. They were really made to last. Some of the other brands have linings that disintegrated over time. They didn't use any glues on vintage Coach that could melt and stain the leather (I discovered this the hard way with other brands). They can be safely washed in soapy water. The dyes used went all the way through the leather so usually conditioning is all that is needed to bring the color back. Spectator bags like this one are tricky. The brown trim will need some redyeing. It will difficult keeping it off the black leather. The black leather is in excellent condition.
Are there any contemporary brands that have the same processes / quality as vintage Coach?
 
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Are there any contemporary brands that have the same processes / quality as vintage Coach?
I don't know of any. Vintage Coach was made of entire thickness of leather. The inside of the bag was the backside of the leather. Now they take the leather and split it into several layers and process them so they look like the top piece. They can put any texture on it that they want. Then because the layers are so thin, they glue them to some kind of backing. They put on edge coating so you can't see the layers. Vintage Coach didn't use edge coating. They didn't need it.
 
I don't know of any. Vintage Coach was made of entire thickness of leather. The inside of the bag was the backside of the leather. Now they take the leather and split it into several layers and process them so they look like the top piece. They can put any texture on it that they want. Then because the layers are so thin, they glue them to some kind of backing. They put on edge coating so you can't see the layers. Vintage Coach didn't use edge coating. They didn't need it.
*** warning. rant coming. Lol! **

I’d just like a manufacturer to make a stellar product and charge a fair price. I would pay very good money to have old Coach quality (or even much better!) in new styles - no questions asked, full price paid. I remember being a broke college student and craving Coach bags because of what they “stood for”.

I get the corporate move to save costs. But, for those of us who who want great quality, deliver and we will pay!

I consistently hear of how wonderful Hermes leather and craftsmanship is. But [insert widely appropriate but not universal stereotype here] the prices are Uber high for what you get, I refuse to “pledge” to buy a bag by purchasing stuff I’m just ok with and then taking what I’m “offered” and most importantly, the aesthetic isn’t for me. Which is fine. I love diversity of approach. My way isn’t the gold standard. But, there should be a range of brands at various price points who do truly quality work - with lifetime “bumper to bumper” warranties like Coach used to offer.

On tPF people get excited because they like a bag/brand and, as an effect not a cause, scream “high quality”. :rolleyes: Polene is a brand that comes to mind but it’s not alone. I could (and often do) add in one of my faves, Chanel, in the “quality isn’t what we should expect for the price” bucket. But, name the brand and a legion of people will say it’s a high quality brand. But, do they know what quality means???? It seems what they are saying is “I got a great bag at a good price that seems worth it”. That does NOT equal quality. A high quality bag has exceptional leathers, nearly infallible hardware, painstakingly careful construction and meaningful design.

Is that era no more? Like the beautiful architecture of 500 or more years ago? You can’t get that in a building today without paying a truly exorbitant price to specialized and almost extinct craftsmen (people). If so, let’s call it. My latest bag - YSL camera - is super pretty and functional. But, it’s quality is just good enough. Can we be brave enough to say we just like the pretty sparkly thing and not try to justify the stupid price we paid for it?

So, I gotta be honest. (Cause I’m a bored as heck Sagittarius and that’s our jam! LOL!) I look at every recently produced bag I see and own sideways when it comes to “quality”. Yep, I said it. :lol: I’ve taken the blue pill a la Matrix and chat on tPB about amazing new bags because they are super cute. But, with a few rare exceptions, I still miss unequivocal, unabashed, mind blowing quality of eras gone by.
 
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