2017 resolution - shopping my own bag and wallet collection. Any one else?

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That one I can answer. It is also by the rarity of the artist and when it was made and how it was made. How famous is the artist as well . Another is location. There are paintings like some abstracts that can be quickly painted then there are paintings that are done layer by layer and take forever to dry. One can take a day to paint and the other can take months of tedious attention to detail. So yes the value is there.
but is the price of 7 digits still fair?
 
don't get me wrong, gals, I am not against any brand, neither I am against any amounts paid, or charged, to each his own, as they say, but since we touched the subject of reasonability of amount paid for the bag, which can be enough to pay for a small car, etc, I am just trying to understand how mad the world has become that we consider it normal to pay millions for a painting, dozens of thousands on a handbag... you can buy a couple of horses for the price of Birkin!
 
don't get me wrong, gals, I am not against any brand, neither I am against any amounts paid, or charged, to each his own, as they say, but since we touched the subject of reasonability of amount paid for the bag, which can be enough to pay for a small car, etc, I am just trying to understand how mad the world has become that we consider it normal to pay millions for a painting, dozens of thousands on a handbag... you can buy a couple of horses for the price of Birkin!
Oh I agree with you to a point. If I were a billionaire though I would help many people but I would still enjoy a rare painting or a bag because I could afford too. Since I can't I don't stress over it and do find it a bit crazy but I can understand it, if that makes sense.
 
Something that was said many times over but is really starting to sink in, is when you buy a new bag for an occasion that you already have a similar bag for that use. I through this sale season have not bought quite a few bags because it would mean less usage of the one I already have. How many small black bags with chains do I need for example. One with silver chain and one with gold should be good enough. This thought has been helping me really choose wiser on what I buy and what I keep. What statements are helping keep your bag shopping under control.
 
no, you didn't, I am just thinking out loud,
some of the brands deliver their overpriced items under the cover of exclusiveness, but the only thing that makes them "excusive" , or in my understanding, cuts off "unwanted" crowd is the price. despite the number there is nothing "exclusive" in them, half of the brands have made quilted flap bags. why should one be 10 times more expensive than the other?
in my very simple and humble point of view it's just diving people by the buying power which is not fair.

That's the market.

Capitalism.

It strikes me as way more fair than health care being rationed by price rather than need. I don't feel too sad about everyone not getting a Chanel flap but when I think about amenable infant mortality that is just bonkers in the US compared to similar rich countries it makes me really sad. Surely every newborn deserves equal shot at survival, regardless of challenging factors in his or her mother's life.

Sorry to go off on such an aside. I just wrote a term paper on this, comparing my home country's infant mortality rate (to my adopted country's. (US vs Finland, 6 vs 2 per 100,000 live births) I'm really not a socialist or anything and really miss a lot of the aspects of my capitalist in the extreme home country. But in health care I have to admit the market really screwed the pooch.
 
Something that was said many times over but is really starting to sink in, is when you buy a new bag for an occasion that you already have a similar bag for that use. I through this sale season have not bought quite a few bags because it would mean less usage of the one I already have. How many small black bags with chains do I need for example. One with silver chain and one with gold should be good enough. This thought has been helping me really choose wiser on what I buy and what I keep. What statements are helping keep your bag shopping under control.

I was thinking about small black bags with chains lately!!
I don't have any! One is a wristlet clutch/WOC but really not a bag. All my other small bags are in other colors.
 
Hey if they guy is dead there will never be another. Some of it is unfair as in any market. I will give you that for sure. I wish living artists such as myself were valued more.
I will am sure it would be a lot more fair and honest if the living artists had better and more equal chances to promote and exhibit their works, if they could get better support from the society, because what I can see now is one is lucky to get the whole fame and money while many others, maybe more talented and gifted, are hardly making ends meet and sometimes have no money to buy paints and brushes to leave the masterpieces to the next generations....
Oh I agree with you to a point. If I were a billionaire though I would help many people but I would still enjoy a rare painting or a bag because I could afford too. Since I can't I don't stress over it and do find it a bit crazy but I can understand it, if that makes sense.
it does, absolutely!
i agree to pay extra for a nice bag, for a beautiful painting, for a bottle of fine wine, but i want this to be REASONABLY expensive, not insanely, which draws a line between relatives, friends, and other society members.
 
That's the market.

Capitalism.

It strikes me as way more fair than health care being rationed by price rather than need. I don't feel too sad about everyone not getting a Chanel flap but when I think about amenable infant mortality that is just bonkers in the US compared to similar rich countries it makes me really sad. Surely every newborn deserves equal shot at survival, regardless of challenging factors in his or her mother's life.

Sorry to go off on such an aside. I just wrote a term paper on this, comparing my home country's infant mortality rate (to my adopted country's. (US vs Finland, 6 vs 2 per 100,000 live births) I'm really not a socialist or anything and really miss a lot of the aspects of my capitalist in the extreme home country. But in health care I have to admit the market really screwed the pooch.
Agree 100% on this.
Life's become a market place.
you're worth nothing, until you get buying power. Then they all are after you.
Buy this, purchase that, you can't live without this gadget, you will feel better if you get that device....
we've become the puppets, and the marketing managers are pulling the strings...
 
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Agree 100% on this.
Life's become a market place.
you're worth nothing, until you get buying power. Then they all are after you.
Buy this, purchase that, you can't live without this gadget, you will feel better if you get that device....
we've become the puppets, and the marketing managers are pulling the strings...

In the Nordic countries, there is far less inequality, far more happiness, but....man alive is there less purchasing power to buy as much STUFF. We would have so much more disposable income to play with in the US, and could really vamp up our consumer pleasure point. But, the trade off seems like a good one all things considered. We have to live reasonably but, the neighborhood school, every neighborhood school, is the best elementary education in the world and everyone gets it. FREE education all the way through as far as you care to go. And on and on and on in terms of the benefits. But, seriously less 'mad money' to treat ourselves to purchasing extras.
 
I saw a perfect black tote for me at prada yesterday. It took every bit of strength not to buy it. I was thinking that I really know nothing about their bags but The strap drop was perfect and I was thinking sparkle could use such a bag, but then I thought it would need more pizazz. It is funny how we think of each others bag needs.
I wish you had taken a photo. Lol!
She meant two sets of handles as in four handles. I am not a fan of four handles either.
Yes. two sets of handles. I don't like the look. And one set is always too short with the other too long.
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no, you didn't, I am just thinking out loud,
some of the brands deliver their overpriced items under the cover of exclusiveness, but the only thing that makes them "excusive" , or in my understanding, cuts off "unwanted" crowd is the price. despite the number there is nothing "exclusive" in them, half of the brands have made quilted flap bags. why should one be 10 times more expensive than the other?
in my very simple and humble point of view it's just diving people by the buying power which is not fair.
Ah. I understand now. I was thinking one of the brands' reps had said something stupid.

Interesting POV. :smile: Maybe more classist than racist??

Just to offer a different perspective. I think the bag brands are "fair" in that anyone (regardless of race or class or gender or shoe size) who has the money and interest can buy a bag.

And, designer bags aren't necessary by any stretch - they're a treat. So, I don't see anything wrong with companies charging whatever they can get away with. Or with them marketing the bags as exclusive or luxury... or even silly, wicked or frumpy or whatever if that branding sells more. It's like Lexus v Toyota. The Lexus isn't really "worth" as much more as the price gap represents. So we could call it unjustifiably overpriced. But, there is value in the brand / badge.

And, really all the premier bags whether they be Hermes, Chanel, Gucci, Bottega Venetta, Prada, etc. are "overpriced", exclusive, luxury, elitist, special snowflake brands. And the contemporary brands are also that to a slightly lesser extent. None of the bags are positioned as egalitarian / for the common man / for the disenfranchised in their messaging or priced according to materials and labor alone. And veeeeeery few have original or proprietary designs. Flaps, hobos, clutches, satchels...they're all quite similar. things are tweaked or a brand puts their signature twist like Prada's saffy leather on their items. But rarely is anything ground breaking.

We just all buy into the hype for our chosen brand at our psychologically comfy price point. I just sometimes have a moment where my brains says NOPE! This is nutty! :whut: I'm there right now so all prices seem insane. But I'm sure this clarity will recede the minute I see the next bag I "must" have.
 
but is the price of 7 digits still fair?
I guess I just wonder at the use of "fair". As long as no one is saying a particular class of people can't buy then it's fair. If I have a tasty donut and clearly communicate that it is only a tasty donut and Fred is willing to pay me €20,000 for it, that is fair. Fred evaluated the item and was willing to freely give me the money.

And, in the transaction neither Fred nor I told anyone who couldn't buy the donut they were "less than".

However, if Fred then lords it over people about his pricey tasty donut, he is an idiot. If people feel jealous or slighted because they can't afford a pricy tasty donut, then they are idiots. :lol:

We're taking about luxury goods not medicine. So, any divides that make one person feel like they're better or another like they're less are the functions of those broken people - not the brands who sell their items. Hermes can sell €50 million bags and Guess can sell €50 bags - I won't feel one way or the other about me as a result.
Something that was said many times over but is really starting to sink in, is when you buy a new bag for an occasion that you already have a similar bag for that use. I through this sale season have not bought quite a few bags because it would mean less usage of the one I already have. How many small black bags with chains do I need for example. One with silver chain and one with gold should be good enough. This thought has been helping me really choose wiser on what I buy and what I keep. What statements are helping keep your bag shopping under control.
Yep. This is where I am. :huh: Since I want to use all my bags, I "can't" buy many more bags. The new bag will cannibalize use. Hence my unplanned almost 5 months no buying. Unless it's one of my few remaining gaps, I'd be duplicating uses. :-s
 
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