Ha, had same decision btwn Pm empreinte noir or artsy. I have both canvas artsy’s. I ended up with noir empreinte artsy (my first empreinte). To me, it really doesn’t seem that much heavier than the canvas artsy’s. I guess I was expecting it to be really heavy compared to canvas. Ultimately, I realised I have plenty of bags that hang at my hip, and prefer it sitting higher on shoulder or hanging on my elbow. And, I prefer the ease of the opening as well. Even though it’s a larger than needed size for me, the Artsy holds it’s shape nicely when I have just a few items in it. GLD