Why Do People Buy Fake Designer Bags Or Fake Designer Anything?

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I so almost bought a mirror image fake B bag on Ebay yesterday. I cannot afford retail prices for any of the bags I want. My strategy is to be patient...wait for the right one to come along, and save for it. I did just that for my dream Ruhtenberg (the Alexander in bone), and he'll be home with me in less than a week! Though I was seriously tempted to skimp on the B bag...I'm now determined to wait for the right one to come to me at the right time.
 
Bless them....

My Aunt carries a fake LV "Alma" but she does not know what LV is in the first place. So, she not trying to buy a fake. Just happened the bag she likes is a fake LV!

And I did not tell her that, of course! I'll take her shopping one of these days.
 
This article is older but does a good job. http://www.bankrate.com/brm/news/advice/scams/20040929a1.asp



Getting real about fake designer goods
By Alex Barbieri • Bankrate.com


Counterfeit merchandise is nothing new. If something gets hot, and expensive, cheaper copycat versions are likely to follow.
But these days, the desire for designer handbags, shoes and jewelry -- and the demand for their counterfeit counterparts -- has reached new heights. Is there any harm in saving money by buying a knock-off wallet or watch? The companies and organizations fighting it think so. They say buyers are unwittingly underwriting organized crime, not to mention compromising the sanctity of intellectual property.
Still, imitations are selling, and at a fraction of the cost of the originals. Can consumers be blamed for this mass flocking to fakes? One woman, who wished to remain anonymous, justified the purchase of knockoff designer items by saying, "Who can afford $2,000 for a Rolex watch, or $500 for a Louis Vuitton purse? If the companies didn't charge so much, people wouldn't have to buy fakes."
Her stylish friend added, "People want to be like their favorite celebrities. Carrying a Louis purse or wearing a Tiffany necklace is a status symbol ... as long as no one else knows it isn't real."

Luxury apparel companies argue that the sale of illegal product has driven up the price for legitimate consumers. Counterfeit replicas also are usually lower in quality than the originals, and are likely to break, rip or fade long before the original does.
Anti-counterfeiting advocates say buying fakes is not a victimless crime. Barbara Kolsun, general council for Kate Spade Inc., a leader in designer handbags and accessories, is head of their anti-counterfeiting program.
"It goes way beyond knockoff bags and watches," she says. "People buy counterfeit pharmaceutical drugs, such as Viagra, Lipitor and birth control pills. There is everything from counterfeit baby food to airplane parts. These products are not regulated. People have become sick and have been killed as a result of using these products."
Timothy Trainer, president of the International Anti-Counterfeiting Coalition Inc., points out another negative aspect: "Many of the people involved in the sale of counterfeit merchandise have also been linked to other illegal activities, including cocaine trafficking, prostitution and violation of child labor laws," Trainer says.
The designer industry, in conjunction with federal and state law enforcement and anti-counterfeiting organizations, is cracking down on the sale and purchase of illegal merchandise. Trainer says that law enforcement's approach to fighting counterfeiters is similar to a drug dealing situation. "You have to go after the counterfeit infrastructure. You can arrest one dealer off the street, but the key is to shut it down at the manufacturing level."
It's a fake world we live in
They've got their work cut out for them. A recent Internet search for "fake designer handbags" turned up almost 5,000 Web sites.
"The counterfeiting industry comprises 5 percent to 7 percent of global trade, generating half-a-trillion dollars globally," Trainer says. "One can't help but think there is a significant amount of organized crime going on, beyond the mom-and-pop level, simply by sheer volume."
The cost of the real thingLouis Vuitton Alma handbag: $730
Kate Spade quilted Noel Francis French wallet: $135
Tiffany heart tag toggle link necklace: $275
Von Dutch floral Chris hat: $42
Just hit the downtown area of any major city. Wherever there are street vendors, you're likely to find knockoffs.
On a recent walk along Canal Street in Chinatown, New York City, an awesome amount of counterfeit products was on display. Four blocks overflowing with fake designer purses, hats, scarves, watches, rings and necklaces. The labels were a who's who of fashion's most in-demand brands: Kate Spade, Prada, Fendi, Gucci, Dooney & Bourke, Coach, Louis Vuitton and Burberry. Need jewelry? How about Rolex, Movado, Tag Heuer, Tiffany or David Yurman. And for the teeny TRL crowd, racks of rip-off Von Dutch T-shirts and baseball caps.
The vendors were organized and technologically prepared. Merchants communicated on walkie-talkie phones, calling in orders for product to some hidden stock room. They also alert each other of suspicious customers or police in the area. The system worked. When police raided, the tip-off arrived before the cops. Gates slammed shut, doors locked and merchandise flew off tables within seconds. Sorry, closed for the day. See you later somewhere else.
Purse-party phenomenon
Merchants and manufacturers aren't the only ones risking fines and jail time. Many otherwise law-abiding people have begun selling counterfeits out of car trunks or at home purse parties (think Tupperware, but with knockoff handbags). While it is unlikely a person would get arrested for purchasing an individual fake bag or watch, legal vulnerability increases if a person is found selling -- or even with the intent to sell -- counterfeit products. At that point, a person is considered a distributor, and is subject to state and federal criminal penalties, including fines and prison terms.
Kolsun works with federal and state law enforcement agencies.
"Together, we approach mall kiosks, flea markets and street vendors to ensure they are selling legitimate product," Kolsun says. "We also work with eBay's Vero program, which closes down auction sites that are selling illegal product."
Asked if people are going to jail for selling knockoff bags, Kolsun says, "Absolutely. Every week."
The international, multibillion dollar counterfeit industry has a negative impact on our economy, Kolsun says, "Counterfeiters are not paying taxes or trademark fees. It should be disturbing to people that when they buy a fake bag, they're supporting a foreign underground economy and criminals with an all-cash lifestyle."
How close is too close?
Some companies manufacture bags that are "inspired by" and closely resemble a famous brand's pattern. For example, Louis Vuitton, maker of some of fashion's most recognizable designs, has a white leather bag with multicolor LV's all over it. There is a less-expensive look-alike on the market with a similar design. Instead of L's and V's, the bag is covered with X's and O's.
Copyright infringement? Could be. Even if a bag does not have a famous designer's label on it, if it can be mistaken for something it isn't, it is copyright infringement, Kolsun says.
"With so much manufacturing done outside of the United States, intellectual property really is the brick and mortar of our society. If we do not protect and understand this, we're in big trouble."
Adds Trainer of IACC, "What I want to impress on people is that when they purchase counterfeit goods, they are funding and underwriting a large illegal, non-tax paying money-making endeavor -- and a lot of horrible illegal activity."
For more information about laws related to trademark and copyright infringement, visit the International A

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My best friend used to carry a fake. Her logic was that she wanted to fit in, and everyone at her Catholic high school had a bag, real, or fake. Now, she buys her own real Coach and the fake sits in the back of her closet. She used to bring it when we would go to concerts, but now she just throws her stuff into my bags, lol. But my point is that the majority of people that I know that carry fakes want the image, want the name, but don't want to pay for it, even though I know quite a few can.

And some are just duped. For example, the past 2 years someone that my mom works with (she's a nurse) has sold fake Juicy Couture velour suits. My mom brought one home for me to look at and to compare to mine, and we both noticed the difference in quality between the two. That did not stop the majority of the nurses that she works with from buying them, they all thought they were real! The other day I was talking to a friend of hers about them, because apparently this year's were cut oddly and did not fit anyone, so she was asking me how I could tell the difference between the two. Some people are simply not as educated as we are.
 
I have friends who are wealthy & can afford to pay for a real birkin bag, but they would rather pay much less for a very good birkin copy. I don't see any wrong with it & when i asked them how they feel. One of them told me that it doesn't bother her 1 bit how people look at her as it is afterall, her 'problem' and not theirs. ANd why would she want to worry unnecessary how people think of her carrying a copy whereby she is happy with it and doesn't have to pay that insane amount of money like some "fools" do as quoted by her. IMO, i don't condone people who wear fakes so long it makes them happy. Sure, those who are willing to pay that amount of money for that birkin bag sure thinks that "face value" is very important and wouldnt want to be in a situation whereby they mingle with the rich & famous to think they are carrying fakes.
 
Why should they bother with a fake Birkin? They could get an authentic Chanel purse which cost less then a Birkin and look much classier. Not only that, they wouldn't be supporting fake merchadise. I am so against fakes and do not condone it under any circumstance. I don't care if they think its ok etc. It is not right to purchase illegitmate product.
 
I knew a girl who carried fakes, I always had to watch my tongue around her because she just didn't "get" my handbag obsession. I guess she thought she could get the 'look' or whatever for less. Personally I think there's bag at all price levels that you can buy. Why buy a poor imitation? even the best fake will never be the real thing, you might fool others but not yourself. I won't be rude to others if they carry fakes, maybe they dont know its fake or maybe they dont care about bags the same way we do, but I do have problems with the people who produce or try to sell fakes as real.
 
^ITA

I'm trying this thing where I don't judge others unless I've been in their situation. So I won't find fault with someone who buys a fake if that is what is within their budget and that is the style they love. However, if its a fake bag, then call it what it is, don't try to insist its a real if you know it isn't. That makes them a liar and lying for any reason is classless.
 
Okay Warren Buffet, the richest man in the world still lives in his little old house in Nebraska. He is pretty humble. :smile1:

I think this is so cool.

Also, don't mean to offend anybody, but I thought that when you went to the store and bought a handbag, even the most expensive handbag, you were buying, you know, a handbag. I never thought that I was buying class, or status or the cachet of being a well-dressed woman because I spent XXX $$$ on a piece of leather or canvas sewn together in a way that is pleasing to me. I certainly didn't think I was buying the right to decide who else in the world should be allowed to carry the same handbag, or the same brand, based on what I think of the rest of their clothes, or what I decide their social position is (without knowing them); nor did I think I was buying the right to look down on other human beings who for whatever reason are carrying a fake, which they may or may not even know is a fake.

Not everyone in this thread seems to be doing these things, but some of the comments I am reading are pretty amazing to me.

If I'm enjoying my handbag because I enjoy it, I don't think I even notice what other people are carrying, I am not the Coach (or LV or whatever) police.

JMHO
 
I buy bags that I feel comfortable wearing. I certainly do not buy LV just because it's "Louis Vuitton." I fell in love with LV 23 years ago and to this day, I don't feel comfortable carrying anything else. I wore a small, clutch bag that matched some shoes I have to a Christmas party last month and I honestly did not feel completely dressed. Like I had forgotten something.

I don't generally make it a point to look at other ladies' bags, but sometimes one will catch my eye and I always notice when someone else is carrying LV.

Those fake animal print D&B bags are EVERYWHERE in the city I live in. It's like a plague. I cannot stand them.
 
Ethics of buying/selling fake bags aside...

This thread is hilarious to me. The idea that carrying a real bag makes you better than someone else? Last time I checked, money can't buy class or taste. And a fake bag is the ultimate way of saying "I'm so cheap?" Would you say the same about someone that is carrying an authentic brand but wearing designer knock-offs from Forever 21? Louboutin look-alikes from Steve Madden?

It's also equally as likely that someone with an authentic bag is trying to give off the impression and/or illusion of wealth. Just because you see someone with a big house or a new car doesn't mean they aren't wallowing in debt...

ITA.

I used to live in the ghetto when I was a child and a teenager. Some people would say that this was a bad experience for a child, but actually I learned a lot of things there.

One thing I remember very well is that many (not all) people in the ghetto are super-concerned to have prestigious goods, especially expensive clothes and cars. And yes, they are real a whole bunch of the time! You would see real, shiny Cadillacs (this was the sixties) parked in front of the worst apartments a lot of the time. The jewelry people had was amazing. Yes, they wore too much of sometimes, and it would definitely spend time in the pawn shop occasionally (when they were absolutely FORCED to pay the rent) but it was amazing expensive jewelry. People there are very stylish and fashion forward. Styles actually come of the ghetto quite a bit. Well-known designers have been known to copy what they call 'street style.'

My father also used to tell us not to worry that we didn't have clothes and things (the latest electronics, the best brand of shoes) while all our friends and classmates did, because he was saving money to GET OUT of the ghetto. Which he did. By the time I was in high school, we lived in a beautiful middle class house in a safe middle class neighborhood. And by the time I went to college, he could afford to send me where I wanted (Ivy League, baby!)

I still had clothes in college that many who have posted here would look upon (cheap, baggy jeans--irregular shirts. I don't remember having a handbag, just a backpack).

I live well now and like nice things, that I can afford without skimping on the important things, like my children's education and my retirement savings and I am NEVER impressed with what other people are wearing, real or fake, because for all I know, they are going home to an apartment which has no heat because they couldn't pay the bill because they had to have a REAL LV or Bbag. Also, because that person in the unstylish clothes (mom jeans or whatever) may be a very interesting, intelligent and nice person, an immigrant on their way up like I was who can't afford the best right now and so wears what they CAN afford--or they may have other priorities, or they may be really rich and dressing down, you just can't tell.
 
ITA.

I used to live in the ghetto when I was a child and a teenager. Some people would say that this was a bad experience for a child, but actually I learned a lot of things there.

One thing I remember very well is that many (not all) people in the ghetto are super-concerned to have prestigious goods, especially expensive clothes and cars. And yes, they are real a whole bunch of the time! You would see real, shiny Cadillacs (this was the sixties) parked in front of the worst apartments a lot of the time. The jewelry people had was amazing. Yes, they wore too much of sometimes, and it would definitely spend time in the pawn shop occasionally (when they were absolutely FORCED to pay the rent) but it was amazing expensive jewelry. People there are very stylish and fashion forward. Styles actually come of the ghetto quite a bit. Well-known designers have been known to copy what they call 'street style.'

My father also used to tell us not to worry that we didn't have clothes and things (the latest electronics, the best brand of shoes) while all our friends and classmates did, because he was saving money to GET OUT of the ghetto. Which he did. By the time I was in high school, we lived in a beautiful middle class house in a safe middle class neighborhood. And by the time I went to college, he could afford to send me where I wanted (Ivy League, baby!)

I still had clothes in college that many who have posted here would look upon (cheap, baggy jeans--irregular shirts. I don't remember having a handbag, just a backpack).

I live well now and like nice things, that I can afford without skimping on the important things, like my children's education and my retirement savings and I am NEVER impressed with what other people are wearing, real or fake, because for all I know, they are going home to an apartment which has no heat because they couldn't pay the bill because they had to have a REAL LV or Bbag. Also, because that person in the unstylish clothes (mom jeans or whatever) may be a very interesting, intelligent and nice person, an immigrant on their way up like I was who can't afford the best right now and so wears what they CAN afford--or they may have other priorities, or they may be really rich and dressing down, you just can't tell.

ITA. We see this a *LOT* here. We have two distinct lower-income neighborhoods, and if you drive through those areas, you'll see plenty of brand new SUVs and people wearing the latest fashions. Meanwhile the homes in the area are dilapidated. Many of the individuals I know who live in these circumstances are, as you said, super concerned with having everything brand name, new and shiny. They have to have the biggest newest TV, the latest cell phone, or the biggest designer bag and jewelry. It is all about the illusion of wealth. But in my experience, many of these people live with relatives, and are not putting any money toward better living conditions. Sure, a $500 retail or fast food paycheck will buy a real Coach bag - if you don't pay your bills or do anything else with it. (Again I refer to my favorite Onion.com article posted a few pages back...) It truly is impossible to judge someone by what they are carrying/wearing.

FWIW, I grew up extremely poor, not in the "ghetto" per se, but in a very rural area.
 
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blackjade - great points! pmburk - sounds like we had a similar upbringing (rural and poor).

It's funny because I ran into a group of women at dinner at this sushi spot. I was with a group as well. I complimented one of the ladies on her purse (and she was very well-dressed). She said 'oh I sell these', and gave me card. Even said she had some in the trunk of her car. Now, did I care if she carried fakes or not--nope...wasn't affecting me. I just thought to myself - wow...I would have thought her (and the other ladies' handbags) purse was real just based on how she presented herself overall--big diamond, expensive-looking clothes and shoes, etc. You definitely cannot judge a book by its cover.
 
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