What do y'all think about the Balenciaga SS23 & Adidas collab "teddy" controversy?

[Swanky]

Bears repeating!

We'd like to leave this thread open, but political conspiracy theories, among other comments need to stop. Discuss the topic only please, let's keep the discussion open and all responses to others need to remain respectful.

Also, let’s stick closely to topic, it really helps preventing tangents and drama.

 

[jellyv]

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^I was asking only about your comment in post #39 about the photo display of legal documents, and others' similar statements about those docs. Post #53 answered my question.

 

[MooMooVT]

A solid article on how much the news just like to make mountains out of molehills. https://www.highsnobiety.com/p/balenciaga-child-ad-conspiracy-theory/

This article is wildly biased and not even remotely factual. They're lying in the face of objectively provable facts. It's insulting.

 

[addiCCted]

She's commented now....

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After backlash …..fake

 

[MooMooVT]

This. Did they know how the ad was going to turn out or was it a “your child will be in a fashion house campaign!”.

Personally I think they wanted to do something controversial so yea, they knew what they were doing because any press is free press that keeps them relevant. It blew up more in their faces then they originally thought it would.

The brand was already faltering imho, this just set the trash on fire. Whether they come out of it like a phoenix or stay dusted, remains to be seen.

Any parent not on the set while their 4yo is on a photo shoot is criminally dumb!

 

[MooMooVT]

I think that we tend to blow things out of proportion. The so called bondage gear is no different than looking at works by Tom of Finland.

Honestly I really found the campaign a brilliant social commentary particularly about us.

Often art speaks more about us than the artist themselves. Similar flap over the Mapplethorpe stuff back in the 1980s.

Hard disagree. That said, I’m glad to hear from the opposite side of this discussion.

 

[HAZE MAT]

Hard disagree. That said, I’m glad to hear from the opposite side of this discussion.

"I believe that any form of art is a species of exploration and transgression. ... Art by its nature is a transgressive act, and artists must accept being punished for it. The more original and unsettling their art, the more devastating the punishment."

--Joyce Carol Oates (1999 in NYT)

 

[Asphodel]

I love my old Balenciagas. I don’t think Nicolas Ghèsquiere has anything to do with the campaign today. The motto bag was his art and his vision.

This ad campaign is very disturbing. I do not understand how anyone thought this was creative.

 

[addiCCted]

I love my old Balenciagas. I don’t think Nicolas Ghèsquiere has anything to do with the campaign today. The motto bag was his art and his vision.

This ad campaign is very disturbing. I do not understand how anyone thought this was creative.

See post above. There are people who believe pushing the envelope is avant garde and justified in the name of art

 

[MooMooVT]

That website has been known to support balenciaga many times and part of their PR payroll.

This is a cheap and desperate attempt on balenciaga to downplay the severity of their actions.

Fox News and Tucker have shown more tha enough proof of Balenciaga’s depraved actions.

That article is a total joke and their claims fly in the face of objective facts. It was posted in a pathetic effort to deflect from 4yo’s posing with bondage bears

 

[addiCCted]

That article is a total joke and their claims fly in the face of objective facts. It was posted in a pathetic effort to deflect from 4yo’s posing with bondage bears

Seriously at this point if you’re still defending Balenciaga you might as well come out and support pedophilia…”love is love”

 

[MooMooVT]

I am starting to wonder if there was something to "pizzagate".

I mean, I hate to give any credibility to the whole pizza-gate thing. But then I wonder why we have not ONE SINGLE NAME from Jeffrey Epstein’s client list. Sure, there’s speculation and such.
But where’s the proof? The prosecutions? If this were only on one side of the isle, the proof would have been released long ago. Clearly it’s a zero-sum-game among both sides of the elite.

 

[addiCCted]

I mean, I hate to give any credibility to the whole pizza-gate thing. But then I wonder why we have not ONE SINGLE NAME from Jeffrey Epstein’s client list. Sure, there’s speculation and such.
But where’s the proof? The prosecutions? If this were only on one side of the isle, the proof would have been released long ago. Clearly it’s a zero-sum-game among both sides of the elite.

Is ghislaine Maxwell not in jail?

 

[MooMooVT]

Exactly!!! Adidas and Gap canceled Kanye. Several stores canceled Ivanka when her dad ran for president. Advertisers are dropping Twitter now that Elon is willing to let them speak their minds. What is the theme here? So they cancel certain things, but they don't cancel child sexualization??? These people are mentally ill

Exactly this. Only certain voices are canceled and interestingly, it’s not those pushing child sexual exploitation

 

[MooMooVT]

Is ghislaine Maxwell not in jail?

What’s that got to do with anything? I want the actual pedos prosecuted. I mean, it’s nice she’s behind bars. But she’s not the main criminal here.

Where is the client list? Where are the prosecutions of those perpetrating the worst of the crimes?

 

[jellyv]

Seriously at this point if you’re still defending Balenciaga you might as well come out and support pedophilia…”love is love”

This is the Balenciaga forum. This forum will continue, with talk about bags that far, far predate this campaign. Many of us have owned their products for 20 years or more. Bottom line, it's possible to love our bags and be entirely outraged over this terrible ad situation. As should be obvious.

I don't like the careless way some posters are implying nefarious things about members here who haven't said anything in the way of defense; to the contrary, voices are ringing with disgust.